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Old 04-20-2006, 11:27 AM   #1
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two double blades

I think that a Weapon Master with all light saber feats and two weapon feats should be able to fight with two Double bladed light sabers


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Old 04-20-2006, 11:34 AM   #2
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It's physically not possibly to do it well for a human. (i think) All the jedi and sith needed their full 2 arms to use it. There is a mod that made this possible in Kotor 2 and, although it was kind of cool, still looked kind of clumsy.

Other to that, mister George Lucas won't like it. No-one in the SW universe has ever used it. The double blades were written in via the expanded iniverse, so they can be explained. The same happened with the wrist-sabers.

In my opinion?
I think it looks quit bad, it will made the jedi weapon master to strong (since he has 2 complete attacks extra compared to npc's) and in addition, make the other jedi classes look a bit weak.

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Old 04-20-2006, 12:25 PM   #3
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I agree it's a bad idea. It'll look too clumsy - hardly the elegance that lightsabers are meant to represent. I also find double-bladed lightsabers to be too gimicky anyway. It was cool when Darth Maul used one, but ever since then it seems like every other Jedi isn't content with one glowing stick. Single lightsabers look the best. Double-bladed and duel sabers are cool here and there. Duel-double would just look like a mess.


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Old 04-20-2006, 12:45 PM   #4
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i think itll look cool i mean corse its possible for a human to do it hold 1 in each hand and spin or u know u could just make a double saber with 4 blades(curved ends like 4 dooku sabers
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Old 04-20-2006, 12:59 PM   #5
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No, because like nas77 said, it would be too clumsy and it would be hard to control.
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Old 04-20-2006, 01:43 PM   #6
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Actually it would be impossible to control.

I just went outside and took two broom handles and practiced for a while, trying to get the gist of it.

...after icing my shins and stopping my lip from bleeding, I've come to the conclusion that even the most gifted jedi would find no practical use for this.


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Old 04-20-2006, 04:35 PM   #7
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Actually it would be impossible to control.

I just went outside and took two broom handles and practiced for a while, trying to get the gist of it.

...after icing my shins and stopping my lip from bleeding, I've come to the conclusion that even the most gifted jedi would find no practical use for this.
I must be possible to some extent, but who in there right minds would ever do that? lol No, definately 2 single sabers are enough in my opinion.

I like KyleOfHarpenden's ****ed up four bladed beast idea tho. And I also like a mod I saw somewhere of the single lightsaber with 2 parrellel blades. These things could be available as a customising option when ur strong enough maybe, or even the trademark weapon of the true sith we've bin told about.

Ooh and maybe the Jedi nun-chucks that that Clone Wars sith woman has in SWBF2.
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Old 04-20-2006, 04:40 PM   #8
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there has been a dark jedi in the history of starwars that kyle katarrn jkkilled who had to parralel blades on there ;lightsaber


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Old 04-20-2006, 04:51 PM   #9
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No.

Not something I'd want to see at all.

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Old 04-20-2006, 05:09 PM   #10
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Actually it would be impossible to control.

I just went outside and took two broom handles and practiced for a while, trying to get the gist of it.

...after icing my shins and stopping my lip from bleeding, I've come to the conclusion that even the most gifted jedi would find no practical use for this.
Part of the strength that comes from the dbl-bladed lightsaber is the power that goes into it from two hands rotating the blade, not just one. You have to use some power to get through something--you can't just touch something with a lightsaber and have it fall off. If you just spin 2 dbl-blades, it's not going to accomplish anything except maybe get through paper because you can't generate sufficient force.
If one end of a dbl-blade comes in contact with something and stops spinning, the other end of the saber could end up going through you because it's not counter-balanced by your other hand.
Also, there's very little direction that you can spin the blades without hitting yourself. The blades would pretty much have to be parallel to your body in order for you to not get hit. That doesn't stop something that's coming across perpendicularly.
Cygnus' '2-broomstick method' to try this out is probably a far better teacher of the limitations of dual double sabers than anything I can say here, however.


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Old 04-20-2006, 05:36 PM   #11
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I think it would be pretty cool! I would love to see that. My KOTOR characters would be near invincible!


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Old 04-20-2006, 06:57 PM   #12
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I'm no fan of that idea.
A Jedi using force powers may be able to pull it off, but it serves no real purpose.
A better fit would be to use more single bladed Sabers like those at the end of KOTOR 2.
Using the Force to wield them from different angles toward your opponent.
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Old 04-20-2006, 07:05 PM   #13
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No. And even if it were possible, I would still be against it. Someone using two double sabers looks just plain ridiculous.


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Old 04-20-2006, 07:11 PM   #14
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Someone made a mod for K2 that edited a 2DA file so that you can wield double-bladed lightsabers. I tried it and it looked okay, so truth be told I couldn't care less if K3 allowed for this.



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Old 04-20-2006, 10:57 PM   #15
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Actually it would be impossible to control.

I just went outside and took two broom handles and practiced for a while, trying to get the gist of it.

...after icing my shins and stopping my lip from bleeding, I've come to the conclusion that even the most gifted jedi would find no practical use for this.
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I think it would be a bad idea. All the reasons I can think of have been mentioned already.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:10 PM   #16
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I think that a Weapon Master with all light saber feats and two weapon feats should be able to fight with two Double bladed light sabers
This idea is just horrible, and it's already been posted before in another thread.


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Old 04-20-2006, 11:11 PM   #17
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Yeah, and let me just say that this idea is easily the worst I have seen for the KotOR series when it comes to weapons. Seriously, didn't you think there was a reason you could only carry one?


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Old 04-20-2006, 11:34 PM   #18
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So you want to wield 2 Double bladed saber staffs? Sure you can...

You equip 2 of them then go to activate them...

Then you will need to consult the venerable Limb-Loss Subtable™ from the old Dragon Magazine's Wandering Damage Guide™ to figure out if you lose an arm, a leg, or both on either side when you actually try to use them.


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Old 04-20-2006, 11:38 PM   #19
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Is there such a statistic?
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Old 04-21-2006, 12:45 AM   #20
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There is no possible way to do it. Like Cygnus Q'ol said, it's impossible to control, not even jedi or sith could do that, you'd have way more one armed and legged jedi.


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Old 04-21-2006, 12:49 AM   #21
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Is there such a statistic?
If you played old-school PnP RPG's there was.

Dragon Magazine™ was the classic magazine for PnP RPG players and the Wandering Damage Guide™ was listed in one of their numerous humor related issues. But the random roll charts provided therein did provide GM's the proper tools for when someone did something relatively stupid with their character in a game. Like wanting to wield 2 Double Sabers at once.

Another of my Dragon Magazine favorites was an adventure for all ultra-powerful characters called NoGard™, but I digress.


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Old 04-21-2006, 02:52 AM   #22
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I think that a Weapon Master with all light saber feats and two weapon feats should be able to fight with two Double bladed light sabers
I voted no. The idea is just too far-fetched and unrealistic for my tastes. Have you tried using two quarterstaffs, one in each hand? It just doesn't work.


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Old 04-21-2006, 05:51 AM   #23
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*Ignite boths end of each saber and spins around a bit* ARgh! that hurt * Legs and part of shoulder falls off and dies*


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Old 04-21-2006, 07:33 AM   #24
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Bad idea. Dual Double Sabers = Alot of dead users.


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Old 04-21-2006, 07:55 AM   #25
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I just went outside and took two broom handles and practiced for a while, trying to get the gist of it.
Did the same thing. My fingers weren't very happy about it...they constantly bashed/slit open/pulverized/destoryed ^^
It even made my brother beat me @ Mario Kart

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If you played old-school PnP RPG's there was.

Dragon Magazine™ was the classic magazine for PnP RPG players and the Wandering Damage Guide™ was listed in one of their numerous humor related issues. But the random roll charts provided therein did provide GM's the proper tools for when someone did something relatively stupid with their character in a game. Like wanting to wield 2 Double Sabers at once.

Another of my Dragon Magazine favorites was an adventure for all ultra-powerful characters called NoGard™, but I digress.
The Valley Girl going Dungeoneering is a classic.

No to the two Saber Staffs
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Old 04-21-2006, 11:32 AM   #27
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This is just silly.

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Old 04-21-2006, 12:28 PM   #29
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all reasons said a jedi isn't defined by his weapon but how much damage he can do with it
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Anyway, I voted no because it is not physically possible and is downright dangerous and ineffective. Has anyone tried it with a staff? I have and I have nearly killed myself.

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Old 04-22-2006, 07:44 AM   #33
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well i think my f**cked up idea was probally the best lol but ye 1 in each hand ud end up like Anikan at the end of ROTS lol and i dont think any1 could do it not even the old sith(the ones who where like the greatest at fighting ever!) could do it without losing a limk or 2.
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Old 04-22-2006, 09:55 AM   #34
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No, personally i like the speed and elegance of one single saber.
Maul in episode 1 looks nice fighting with a double saber, but 2 of them? Overkill!
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