NFL 2006

[Mav]

Originally Posted by stingerhs

i don't know. something that a lot of people don't mention often was that Culpepper just hasn't been the same QB without Randy Moss lining up in WR. just look at his stats last year before his injury. he was one of the worst QB's in the league, and almost nothing was going right for him.

in last night's game, he looked alright in the beginning, but he collapsed in the fourth. was it really an idication that Batch is a better QB than Culpepper?? most definately not. Batch is probably the best backup QB in the league, but i wouldn't trust him to start every game for the Steelers the way i would Culpepper or Big Ben. my earlier comment was more or less an observation based on the performances of last night's game only.

I'll agree to the fact that Batch had a better game, but I also believe Culpepper is the better QB hands down, and true Randy Moss will make any QB who can throw the deep ball look better, but that doesn't degrade the fact that Culpepper is still a solid starter. True he did have a very sub-par game, reminiscent of last season, but I feel he has enough weapons there, that with time he should only improve, keep in mind he is in a new system after all. But yes, Batch was better in that game. I really don't care though, just waiting to watch my Broncos slaughter St. Louis.

[RevanA4]

Originally Posted by maverick187

I really don't care though, just waiting to watch my Broncos slaughter St. Louis.

as long as Isaac Bruce scores a TD or 2 I don't much care the outcome.

he is the only player in that game that effects my Fantasy football stats

[Commander Obi-Wan]

Though, Culpepper was in jured for most of last year. But, it doesn't have any star receivers either. It's the first game anyway. I think they can beat the Bills.

[Mav]

well I guess I was wrogn about my Broncos... 6 friggin' FG's and a stupid roughing the punter penalty, I wasn't able to actually watch the game, so I'll see if that penalty was a good call or not, I'm still pretty upset, still Denver didn't play well nor did Plummer, but it's only the first game, at least thats what I'm telling myself, but in other news...

Seattle wins a defensive battle against Detroit with a last second field goal... 9-6

New England comes from behind to defeat Buffalo... 17-19

New Orleans is able to hold their lead over Cleveland to get the win... 19-14

Jets over Titans... 23-16, Baltimore shutsout Tampa Bay... 27-0, Bengals over Chiefs... 23-10, Eagles over Texans... 24-10, and Atlanta over Carolina, of note, Steve Smith did not play... 20-6,

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by maverick187

Seattle wins a defensive battle against Detroit with a last second field goal... 9-6

That was a heartbreaker for me... But at least it showed that we can play defense with the best team in the NFC. If only our offense had shown up...

Glad that the Bengals won. Too bad about Trent Green though...

[Jae Onasi]

Yeah, Bears!

A shut out??? In Lambeau???? Stomping Packers at Lambeau feels so good. First shutout for the Pack since I think '91 they said. To be fair, there were a couple of bad calls that went against the Pack, but the Bears D was pretty dominant, I don't know that it would have made any difference in the win-loss category, though they might have been able to put some points on the board.

Grossman really looked good today--I was impressed. He came out and marched that offense right on down the field, making some great throws, with the WRs doing a good job of hanging on for some fantastic gains. T. Jones did a decent job running though should have gotten more yards per carry, and even Benson got some playing time.

The D did pretty well, though I was surprised they didn't get a sack. How about Tillman's and Manning's interceptions and Hester's punt return for a TD, though? I loved it.

The Bears controlled the game from the very start. We didn't have to put the punting unit on the field for quite some time--I thought I heard not until the 3rd quarter, but I'd have to look at the stats.

In the "What the?" category--Grossman throwing into triple coverage in the endzone, and T. Jones throwing a ball back to Grossman, who as an ineligible receiver.

26-0 is a fine way to start the season.

[RevanA4]

The bears don't play a lot of good solid teams this year which could be thier downfall

the cowboys almost won on Sunday a bunch of stupid penalties on thier D kept the Jags in the game >.<

on the bright side they play the skins next week which should be an easy win for them and good for my Fantasy states with glen, TO and J. Jones on my team next week I should blow away my opponent

[Commander Obi-Wan]

The only game I really managed to watch was the Manning versus Manning game.

The main reason why the Giants lost were because the penalties they took and that late interception didn't help.

[Cygnus Q'ol]

Here Here!! Jae Onasi !!!
What an absolute blast it was to watch them bring in the new season with a Packer stomping. Seems fitting after what Favre has done to my boys in the last decade.

...couldn't even get close enough to kick a field goal. YESSSSSSS!

The Bears actually had three sacks Sunday. Lance Briggs, Alex Brown, and Mark Anderson(rookie) all got a sack. Mark was the most exited, mentioning that Favre was a future hall of famer and to get your first sack against a player of his calibur is exiting and confidence boosting.

I was also impressed and pleasantly surprised at the play of Grossman. I'm glad he could get it going to gain some confidence and get the nay-sayers off of his back. (at least for a while).

Except for some minor mistakes and a couple of goofball plays, I think they did better than most expected. If they keep producing and keep improving while staying healthy, I see no reason why they can't take the division and do a little damage in the playoffs.

But, that's getting ahead of myself. One game, one drive, one play at a time.

[Jae Onasi]

Originally Posted by Cygnus Q'ol

Here Here!! Jae Onasi !!!
What an absolute blast it was to watch them bring in the new season with a Packer stomping. Seems fitting after what Favre has done to my boys in the last decade.

...couldn't even get close enough to kick a field goal. YESSSSSSS!

The gals at work are all Packer fans. I've gloated at work at least an hour today, maybe more.

Originally Posted by Cygnus Q'ol

The Bears actually had three sacks Sunday. Lance Briggs, Alex Brown, and Mark Anderson(rookie) all got a sack. Mark was the most exited, mentioning that Favre was a future hall of famer and to get your first sack against a player of his calibur is exiting and confidence boosting.

I was in and out of the room where we had the game on--I must have missed them--bummer!

Originally Posted by Cygnus Q'ol

Except for some minor mistakes and a couple of goofball plays, I think they did better than most expected. If they keep producing and keep improving while staying healthy, I see no reason why they can't take the division and do a little damage in the playoffs.

But, that's getting ahead of myself. One game, one drive, one play at a time.

If they stay healthy....they're pegged to take the NFC North. The defense is certainly playoff caliber if they stay healthy, I'm not sure about the offense at this time. Grossman has a lot to learn. However, he has that same confidence McMahon showed in the '80's, without the cockiness.

Edit: @Cygnus--yeah, it was Favre's first ever shutout. Heh.

[Cygnus Q'ol]

^^^
Oh, so true.
He's got a lot of work to do, but at least he's doing it on the field and not in a wheelchair.
This game's confidence, the rest of the team's success, and Griese waiting in the wings should keep him striving to get better.

I'm still impatient with the supposed two-headed running attack that has yet to develop. The Lions have a slightly better D than GreenBay, so I hope they can get that together a bit better before Sunday.

I didn't make it to work on Monday. (cough, cough, wheeze...)
Today, everyone's ignoring me. Can't figure it. Maybe it's my neon orange, loud, uglier then heck, bears shirt. They're acting as if I stink. I'm sure I washed it.
Oh well...

Oh, by the way, the last time the Pack was shut out was a crisp, autumn, October day in 1991, by guess who?

...that's right, DA BEARS. (20 to 0).

[Mav]

NFL Update 17, Sept. 06

Philly over the Giants 24-24 with 7 sec. in the 4th, looks to be going to OT...

Carolina and the Viks are tied at 13 a piece and are in OT right now...Edit:Vik's win on a field goal 16-13, Carolina 0-2 w/o Steve Smith

NO is on top of Greenbay right now, 34 to 27 with about 4 minutes left to play...

Seattle is up 7-0 early against the Cards... and San Fran is up 3-0 early against the Rams...

The Bills bounce back from last weeks loss to NE with a 16-6 win over Miami today...

The Colts improve their record against the Texans to 9-0 all-time with their 43-24 win today...

Carson Palmer and the Bengals improve their record today with a 34-17 victory over the Browns...

DA Bears had another impressive defensive showing and Grossman is started to look alive in their 34-7 win over the Lions...

Baltimore beats an ugly Oakland team, 28-6, and Atlanta over Tampa 14-3...

[Jae Onasi]

Originally Posted by maverick187

DA Bears had another impressive defensive showing and Grossman is started to look alive in their 34-7 win over the Lions...

_Starting_ to look alive? Four touchdown passes and 289 yards passing looks pretty darn alive to me.

Lions killed themselves with penalties. The most notable was an interception run back for a TD that got overturned because one of their guys did an illegal block to the face.

However, I don't believe that would have helped, because the D had them pretty well shut down. They got 3 fumbles, 6 sacks, and made Detroit put the punting unit on the field quite a bit.

The O-line held Detroit and gave Grossman all the time in the world to pass, and they allowed no sacks.

Grossman's buying them all steak dinners tonight, I bet.

Go Bears!!!

[Jeff]

Yeah, I was pretty diappointed with the Lions today. After a great game against Seatle last week especially on defense, they can't keep the Bears' offense from scoring

At least Cincy won again.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Jae Onasi

_Starting_ to look alive? Four touchdown passes and 289 yards passing looks pretty darn alive to me.

I need to see some consistency, before I start to call him an elite starter, one breakout game doesn't cut it for me, but I think him and the Bears will have a good game next week against Minnesota. I will say this though, he is doing a whole hell of a lot better than Plummer, who looks like a freakin' male silverback gorilla just jumped on his back. Even though the Broncos won today I am less than satisfied with the way their offense is playing so far, and even though our defense hasn't had any touchdowns scored on them, I would really like to see them start to cause some turnovers, plain and simple we're losing the turnover battle and our offense hasn't clicked yet.
They did start to show some signs of getting in a rythm late in the game, but I think they still need to show me a drive where they completely dominate the opposition, or have a huge play that turns things around for them. Even if it's just one break-away run from a Bell, or if it's Javon Walker going deep, I just think we need a spark to ignite our offense. Speaking of the Bells I think Shanahan needs to pick one to be the starter and I think Tatum should have that job, I belive he's more consistent than the rookie Mike, right now.

[mimartin]

Well the Texans lost again. The #1 draft pick had another stellar performance with two tackles given him 5 total tackles with 4 of those being solo and no sacks for the first two games. Way better than Bush's 15 receptions for 120 yards and 21 rushes for 72 yards or Young's 10 completions for 133 yard with 1 touchdown/1 interception and 5 rushing attempts for 24 yards. Another great draft choice by the Texans. Don’t let the 24 to 43 score fool you, it was not that close. The Texans scored their three touchdowns against the Colt’s 2nd and 3rd team players. I would say at least we'd get the first pick in next year’s draft, but they'd just waste it again.

[Mav]

^^^
I feel bad for Mario Williams, he will spend his entire career being compared to Reggie Bush... a friggin DE being compared to a RB... that's like comparing a Choo-choo train to an... explosive slinky... yea my analogies suck, I don't care The point is that it's not like Reggie Bush would have gotten 43 points for the Texans... not when their O-line get's ripped through like a wet paper bag gets shredded by a horny mongoose... it must be late... I need to sleep

[mimartin]

Originally Posted by maverick187

^^^
I feel bad for Mario Williams, he will spend his entire career being compared to Reggie Bush... a friggin DE being compared to a RB... that's like comparing a Choo-choo train to an... explosive slinky... yea my analogies suck, I don't care The point is that it's not like Reggie Bush would have gotten 43 points for the Texans... not when their O-line get's ripped through like a wet paper bag gets shredded by a horny mongoose... it must be late... I need to sleep

I agree with you 100%. I have no problem with Mario Williams and feel sorry for him too. My point is Bush and Young are part-time players and Mario Williams is a starter and only has 5 tackles. Bush would have more yards and a touchdown or two with the Texans only because he would be getting more touches with the Texans. My problem is with the Texans front office and their ability to make terrible draft picks. They said they wanted the BEST PLAYER available in the past draft. Mario Williams may have been the best defensive player available (I even question that, but I’m no expert), but anyone could tell he was not the best football player available. I didn’t want Bush, I wanted Vince Young, but that was because I’m a little partial to Texas Longhorn players (even the ones that smoke their careers away). I would have even settle for trading down just to get more draft picks. The Texans need help at every position, but receiver, just to become competitive.

[Jeff]

You can't measure a defensive end's skill by how many tackles and sacks they make. Defensive ends in a 4-3 defense have contain responsibility so they really only have the opportunity to make tackles on outside runs.

[mimartin]

Very true perhaps I'm being unfair to Mario Williams. Its just he was sold to the Houston sports fans as the answer to all the Texans pass rush problems and given time maybe he will be. It just every defensive line the Texans play looks like future hall of fame players and the Texans can't get any pressure on the QB. Hopefully he'll learn to get off blocks better and not get pancaked as often. He contained no one against the Colts, but very few teams do.

[Commander Obi-Wan]

Rudi Johnson sure had a good game. Good for the Bengals to win another. And the Bears sure aren't lettting up. If they play like this for the rest of the season, they will definitely be a Super Bowl contender. Grossman seems fine for the moment.

I don't really feel bad for Mario Williams. Just don't know why. Though, the Texans in general didn't play horribly offensively. Carr had a great game.

[Cygnus Q'ol]

I hate to say it and I'm not tryin' to flame or piss off Texan fans, but what the frick were they thinking to pass up Reggie Bush or Vince Young or even Lendell White?

I can understand Young since they have Carr established. However, they are still in need of a running game and Bush was the best runner in college last year.
Picking Bush and beefing up the O-line should have been priority (IMO).
Nothing against Mario. He's a monster and his impact is eminent.
There are a few defensive concerns as well.

Da Bears are playing well and are starting to look very promising.
However, they still haven't played anyone with a serious attack yet.
The Vikes should test the offensive line a little bit more this week. I hope they are up to the task. If the D-line can get to Johnson like they did Favre and Kitna, and the offense continues to score, They should come outta Minne with a W.

I have my eye on Cinncinnati. They look very promising. If I were forced to watch another team on Sundays, I guess The Bengals would be them.
Wouldn't it be great if the Bears met them in February?

Hey, I can dream, can't I?

[Jae Onasi]

Anyone else besides me think it's just _wrong_ to have the Superbowl in February? January will be even more boring without it.

[mimartin]

Originally Posted by Jae Onasi

Anyone else besides me think it's just _wrong_ to have the Super Bowl in February? January will be even more boring without it.

I consider February Football un-American similar to November Baseball.

Originally Posted by Cygnus Q'ol

I hate to say it and I'm not tryin' to flame or piss off Texan fans, but what the frick were they thinking to pass up Reggie Bush or Vince Young or even Lendell White?

Don’t worry about that, all the Texan fans I know would agree 100% with you.

Not having a pro-football team in the Houston area has forced me to watch other teams ( and NO, Dallas is not an option). So far this season I’m impressed with the Cincinnati, Chicago, Indianapolis and Jacksonville. I haven’t seen the other 2-0 teams; Atlanta, New Orleans, Baltimore, New England and San Diego play yet. I would be jumping on the Cincinnati bandwagon, but after Monday nights game Jacksonville’s defense look like the real deal. As long as Nathan Vasher is on Da Bears I’ll be rooting for them to make the Super Bowl (since Roy Williams and the Lions aren’t going anywhere).

A Bears vs. Jacksonville Super Bowl would be great if you love defense. How’s 0 to 0 after 3 overtimes sound?

[Jae Onasi]

Originally Posted by mimartin

A Bears vs. Jacksonville Super Bowl would be great if you love defense. How’s 0 to 0 after 3 overtimes sound?

I prefer a 54-0 blowout win for the Bears myself. But I'll settle for a 3-0 Bears win.

[Cygnus Q'ol]

Originally Posted by Jae Onasi

Anyone else besides me think it's just _wrong_ to have the Superbowl in February? January will be even more boring without it.

It's good to see another traditionalist still around. Most I talk with want an even longer season.
Now, I love football as much as the next, but the season, to me, is long enough as it is.

First off, there are way too many pre-season games.
How many players annually get hurt in pre-season?
It's rhetorical and I have no idea, but I'm sure it's a lot.

Now, there's this ridiculous month or so after the playoffs 'til the Superbowl.
I actually lost a large amount of interest by the time the Superbowl rolled around.
Pretty soon, if this keeps up, we'll be watching the Superbowl in the spring.

My family has traditions that go along with the Superbowl and the college bowl games. Those are all but gone now with the way the schedules have been expanding and extending later and later into the new year.

New Year's day used to be a special day with my family, especially with me and my father. Mom would make us a special dinner and he and I would spend the day together mostly centered around football.

Those were the days when the Cotton, Sugar, Rose, and Orange bowls all use to be on the same day. New Year's Day.

We've since adapted to the ever-changing scheduling, but it's never the same.
It always seems like I'm always whining about the good old days, I guess that's what you do when you get old.

I suppose it would all be worth it if the BEARS won the Superbowl.

[RaV™]

06-07 Falcons + Michael Vick = Superbowl

[Jae Onasi]

Whoohoo, Bears!
3-0 in the division! I was pretty dejected about how it just wasn't coming together offensively for the Bears, and it was looking like they would lose. That was until the last couple of minutes in the game when the D made the fumble happen and Grossman hit Davis in the endzone to put the Bears ahead. Then the D shut down the Vikings and they lost the ball on downs at 1:05 left.
Missed tackles were a glaring problem this game--we were watching one play and 5 different guys got a hand on one of the Vikings before he finally went down. How do you get 5 missed tackles in a row?
What can I say, an ugly win is still a win.

I've noticed in any contest that the best team will win more often than not. However, I've noticed that a significant number of times, it's not always the best team--it's the team that plays like they really want it that wins. The Bears may not be the best in the NFL, but they're playing with greater heart and passion than I've seen a number of other teams play--there's a certain fire that they have that keeps them going even when it looks like they might not make it.
I believe they only have 3 more division games, and at 3-0 in the division now, they have a decent chance of making the playoffs even this early in the season.
I'm looking forward to the game against the Seahawks next week.

[ET Warrior]

How's that taste New England? Bitter? Hard to get down?

Broncos are looking better every week. Look out AFC.

[RaV™]

Seeing NE lose makes me happy and seeing NE lose like they did today makes me feel ever so happier

[Mav]

Originally Posted by ET Warrior

How's that taste New England? Bitter? Hard to get down?

Broncos are looking better every week. Look out AFC.

We have another Broncos fan??? I suddenly don't feel so lonely.

I must say, that Grossman showed his inexperience and inconsistency this week, BUT he also showed a lot of composure, confidence and some of that ever valuable "intangible" and even though he made a huge mistake, his defense gave him the ball back and for once, the Grossman and the Bears offense capitalized, and in the end thats what counts, taking advantage of those opportunities.

However, in a game with more meanign for me at least, the Broncos beat the Patriots tonight 17-7, I actually made a prediction last week that the Broncos would win 17-9, so I was close . Anyway, it was nice and refreshing to see that the Broncos finally picked an official RB starter and made the right choice in Bell... Tatum that is. It was also very refreshing to see that Plummer didn't throw a pick this game and in fact threw 2 TD's, both to Javon Walker. The Broncos defense finally gave up a TD, but it was on an absolutely brilliant catch, so I don't feel so bad about it . The defense also showed a bit of a weakness however, they looked sluggish and unconditioned, but they did get banged and bruised up quite a bit, Darrent Williams with a neck injury, Al Wilson's quad tightened, and various other aches and pains, but they'll bounce back I'm sure. I'm stoked about the win, since my roommate from last year is a Patriots fan, and I don't like him much if at all.

[Arátoeldar]

This sucks being 1-2 and the Bengals/Ravens 3-0.

[mimartin]

Originally Posted by Arátoeldar

This sucks being 1-2 and the Bengals/Ravens 3-0.

I’d take 1 – 2. Would you like to try 0 -3 with a good chance of going 0 for the season like the Texans. First the Texans gave away Reggie Bush to New Orleans or Vince Young to the Titans now they give Washington their first victory.

No, Houston didn’t need a quarterback David Carr is the man in 63 games he has 80 turnovers (54 interceptions and 26 fumbles). Compared this to Drew Brees who has 61 games played with 59 turnovers (55 interceptions and 4 fumbles) the fumbles really stand out. Not that much difference other than the fumbles that can somewhat be blamed on Houston’s terrible pass protection, so compare touchdowns 83 TD for Brees and 60 for Carr. I believe Carr can be a decent quarterback for some NFL team, just not the Texans and their nonexistent pass protection.

[Arátoeldar]

Originally Posted by mimartin

I’d take 1 – 2. Would you like to try 0 -3 with a good chance of going 0 for the season like the Texans. First the Texans gave away Reggie Bush to New Orleans or Vince Young to the Titans now they give Washington their first victory.

No, Houston didn’t need a quarterback David Carr is the man in 63 games he has 80 turnovers (54 interceptions and 26 fumbles). Compared this to Drew BrBreesho has 61 games played with 59 turnovers (55 interceptions and 4 fumbles) the fumbles really stand out. Not that much difference other than the fumbles that can somewhat be blamed on Houston’s terrible pass protection, so compare touchdowns 83 TD for BreeBrees 60 for Carr. I believe Carr can be a decent quarterback for some NFL team, just not the Texans and nonexistent pass protection.

Yes but you are used to being perennial losers.

[mimartin]

Originally Posted by Arátoeldar

Yes but you are used to being perennial losers.

You never get use to it.

[Commander Obi-Wan]

Go Broncos! Broncos have always been always been amongst my favourite teams in the NFL. And my other favourite teams won.

Go Bengals. 3-0 is quite preferrable over 2-1. Housmenzadah had a fantastic game, plus helped me in fantasy football.

[RevanA4]

Originally Posted by Commander Obi-Wan

Go Bengals. 3-0 is quite preferrable over 2-1. Housmenzadah had a fantastic game, plus helped me in fantasy football.

heh I just need a repeat performance by M. Vick today and I win this weeks game

dispite having 2 players that didn't score me anything ><

[Bob Lion54]

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN! CHILDREN OF ALL AGES!

The Superdome is BACK!

You would think it was the Superbowl by the excitment in the Stadium! Go Saints!

[milo]

Originally Posted by Commander Obi-Wan

Go Broncos! Broncos have always been always been amongst my favourite teams in the NFL. And my other favourite teams won.

Go Bengals. 3-0 is quite preferrable over 2-1. Housmenzadah had a fantastic game, plus helped me in fantasy football.

Hehehe...my friend signed me up for a fantasy football league, even though I don't follow football much. I'm currently 3-0 and leading the league in points, and I haven't even looked at my team once. Everybody else if frickin' pissed.

[Commander Obi-Wan]

Originally Posted by Bob Lion54

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN! CHILDREN OF ALL AGES!

The Superdome is BACK!

You would think it was the Superbowl by the excitment in the Stadium! Go Saints!

Yeah, it's nice to see that it's up and running again. Unfortunately, I am unable to view the game since I am at work on my break. But, I hope to catch the end.

Go Saints!