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Old 10-13-2006, 02:37 AM   #1
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Should the ebon hawk be scrached

i dont think they should get rid of it just modify it a bit


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Old 10-13-2006, 02:40 AM   #2
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Well, if they don't modify it, it would be nice to have a new ship (though keeping it would be good for continuity I suppose).
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Old 10-13-2006, 02:55 AM   #3
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Poll with close on 28th February 2034? What a strange date to choose, considering most people might not be here in 2034. Anyway keeping on-topic, I would just modify it a bit. Like have the Cargo Hold to put unused items in containers, like KOTOR and either the dormitories or the medical bay to be used to get full health, when you're in the Ebon Hawk.
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Old 10-13-2006, 03:39 AM   #4
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In the story I am currently building for Kotor III you first have another ship but you acquire the Ebon Hawk after you have done two planets. O, yes I did make one modification for the Ebon Hawk. In the turret minigame you could now switch between laser and Ion cannons. I think that would be all right, if you could disable a ship, capture the pilot or just because you want to spare them. It would IMO be a nice game addition.
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Old 10-13-2006, 07:28 AM   #5
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Old 10-13-2006, 07:36 AM   #6
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not removed, but i want that stupid paint job changed


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Old 10-13-2006, 09:11 AM   #7
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Hell no; the Hawk is as much a part of the KOTOR story as the Mellenium Falcon is part of the original trilogy, it just wouldn't be the same without it.

But what I would really like to see happen, is that you get some options to upgrade and customize your ship through out the game, so all those extra credits aren't burning a hole in your robes. Repairs, upgrades to the weapons and shields, paint jobs, crew quarters, work benches, the whole thing. Maybe even a special swoop bike compartment where you could work on it.
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:33 PM   #8
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If you look closely at the hawk, there's a cargo pod attached on only one side of the ship. I think it should be 'droppable' or maybe one addable on the other side. Maybe even a small fighter craft attached where the missing pod belongs, or something along those lines.

you get the idea, but DON'T retire it. I'd also like to see some use to the communication room also.



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Old 10-14-2006, 08:53 AM   #9
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I voted 'I don't care' because it wouldn't really affect the context of the plot of KotOR III (whatever it may be, if the game ever gets made). Also, you have to take the factor into consideration that KotOR III might take place in such a timeline where the Ebon Hawk doesn't exist yet or it doesn't exist anymore or it's too old. Yet again, if KotOR III is a prequel, it wouldn't really be KotOR III now would it? Anyway, I'll get back on topic.

We only see the Ebon Hawk fly off Malachor V in the LS ending of KotOR II. I'm not sure if the Ebon Hawk is gone for good or not in the DS ending of KotOR II, since we don't see it again after the 'death of the Ebon Hawk' scene in the DS version on Malachor V in KotOR II. So perhaps if KotOR III is based on such a timeline, the ship we get would depend on what alignment you set the Exile to. Either way, I don't really care...
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Old 10-14-2006, 09:27 PM   #10
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They should keep it, but change it a bit. And I like Master Kavars' idea where you modify it yourself.


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Old 10-15-2006, 02:32 AM   #11
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How many times have we had this asked? Kinda get annoying after the first thousand times.

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Old 10-15-2006, 05:17 AM   #12
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I say they should retain the Ebon Hawk and add a toilet in it, for God's sake.


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Old 10-15-2006, 05:35 AM   #13
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I say they should retain the Ebon Hawk and add a toilet in it, for God's sake.
Very good point! That little room where Juhani and Mira stayed would do fine for a refresher and waste extractor!


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Old 10-15-2006, 08:07 AM   #14
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Very good point! That little room where Juhani and Mira stayed would do fine for a refresher and waste extractor!
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Old 10-15-2006, 02:59 PM   #15
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You realise that they just pull out of hyperspace, crap over the exit ramp, and move on? Jolee used to encourage force-push turd fights, but it resulted in the Ebon Hawk smelling funny, so he was exiled to the Star Forge before it exploded.

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Old 10-15-2006, 04:57 PM   #16
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Theres a toilet in the medical bay. It's recessed into the wall.


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Old 10-15-2006, 06:40 PM   #17
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You realise that they just pull out of hyperspace, crap over the exit ramp, and move on? Jolee used to encourage force-push turd fights, but it resulted in the Ebon Hawk smelling funny, so he was exiled to the Star Forge before it exploded.
Oh my god! Is that why it always smelled funny in KoToR1? My god Jolee! If you weren't dead right now i'd... i'd... oh forget it. Anyway on topic, I'd like to see some more stuff outside the ship, i'd like to have some more new content, useing Kavar's idea also, thats about it.


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Old 10-16-2006, 05:56 AM   #18
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Theres a toilet in the medical bay. It's recessed into the wall.
Really? I never noticed that.


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Old 10-16-2006, 08:07 AM   #19
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Theres a toilet in the medical bay. It's recessed into the wall.


Oh, good lord, no!


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Old 10-16-2006, 09:01 AM   #20
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Hell no; the Hawk is as much a part of the KOTOR story as the Mellenium Falcon is part of the original trilogy, it just wouldn't be the same without it.

But what I would really like to see happen, is that you get some options to upgrade and customize your ship through out the game, so all those extra credits aren't burning a hole in your robes. Repairs, upgrades to the weapons and shields, paint jobs, crew quarters, work benches, the whole thing. Maybe even a special swoop bike compartment where you could work on it.
Emphasizing.

Perhaps we could add force cages and beast cages for holding prisoners and beasts. This is assuming there's an additional power of beast control in the next installment.

I wouldn't mind some sort of mind control or torture room as well. This way when some unlucky morons like the Red Eclipse try to take my ship, I'll capture them and twist their minds then distribute them to all of the planets to earn me credits.

The cargo hold is used for sparring. That's OK. But, I'd like to spar with all of the party members. Or perhaps as them to get a feel for their strengths and weaknesses before I take them into battle. Also, I'd like to have the option to spar with weapons, armor and powers.


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Old 10-16-2006, 10:12 AM   #21
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i would like to see it upgraded and fully repaired
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Old 10-16-2006, 10:44 AM   #22
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:34 PM   #23
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i dont think they should get rid of it just modify it a bit
I think the Ebon Hawk should appear somewhere in the story line, but I think it's more realistic if theres another ship central to the story, reasons: a) theres more adventure if the PC and whatever NPC's have to figure out a way to steal a different ship (not the same old ship) b) entering the new ship would be like the first time you entered the Ebon Hawk; new and refreshing, you wouldn't know what to expect to find or see until you're in it, I think we've found everything the Ebon Hawk can offer c) there would be the opportunity to take the new ship, which might start out sluggish and average, and as the story progresses, you upgrade it with a new hyperdrive, make necessary repairs, and impliment other performance enhancing mods so that halfway through the plot, you will feel a bond with it like Han Solo did with the Millinium Falcon after making it the fastest ship in the Galaxy. Certainly it didn't start that way d)it would be nice to have a ship with a cooler appearance than the Hawk, let's face it, almost every other ship you see in the game is better looking e) wouldn't it be just a little too coincidental to have yet another story revolve around the Hawk? f)it would be very cool to be able to apply your own name to a new ship if that could be done (maybe after you steal it and repaint it to run around anonymously) The Hawk has a reputation everywhere as a Jedi ship now, and everyone seems to know it. Let's build a new hot rodded vessel thats unknown to anyone. Think of the adventures of landing on half a dozen planets in a stolen ship without the proper credentials, and the trouble you'd have to get out of. Perhaps you could have a quest to borrow the credentials of a similar ship headed for the scrapyard to keep the authorities off your back.
Well, those are my thoughts anyway, Viper

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Old 10-16-2006, 09:06 PM   #24
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Old 10-17-2006, 03:49 AM   #25
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:20 PM   #26
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It dpends how late it apears after the second one if it more then 100 then i saw it souldnt be in thier, but if its olny a few i say keep it.


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Old 10-17-2006, 10:06 PM   #27
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No way can you get rid of the Hawk, Like ED said, it's like the Falcon, you can't get rid of it. Now, some changes could be good, like if Bao is repairong that section, for the whole frigin game, why can't it get fixed, ever? And where is the refresher that Jolee was complaining about. They need to bring back the empty containers aswell, those were handy. And what is the point of that little room wher Juhani/Mira are? Another good question, where does one control the turret? But the Hawk has to stay around, whether our questions get answered or not.


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Old 10-18-2006, 09:06 AM   #28
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I'd like the Hawk to be kept but i hope you can do more stuff with it like upgrades and stuff


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Just a thought... isn't the Ebon Hawk already "scrached"?

It is a used ship, and has been through a lot...


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Old 10-18-2006, 10:16 AM   #31
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Just a thought... isn't the Ebon Hawk already "scrached"?
Excellent point! No doubt Ebon Hawk had some serious damage to the paint job after that hard crash on Malachor V.


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Excellent point! No doubt Ebon Hawk had some serious damage to the paint job after that hard crash on Malachor V.
Right, and if they allow you to customize paint job and add vinyls, accesories etc., I bet they'll name the game Knights of the Old Republic: Underground.

But the Malachor discussion brings up another classic question:

The Hawk is pretty much boomed when it crash-lands into Malachor. How the hell does it leave Malachor all shiny and new?

Plus it falls into a large chasm, and hovers back up later? What does Exile have a remote control for the ship or what?


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Keep it! You can't upgrade on perfection.
Oh please, it's far from perfect.

...and by the way, the Falcon was a hunk of junk. We just liked it 'cause we liked Han and it fit the story. The actual ship was a rust bucket, old freighter.


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Old 10-19-2006, 01:20 AM   #34
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I loved the Falcon. What they could do for KOTOR III is have you flying some random ship, but to not let the player get too attached too it. Anyways, ull get the Ebon near the begining but not at the begining. (sorry its 1AM, I think someone alrdy said this, im just supporting the idea hehe.)

Oh and PLEASE oh PLEASE have an explanation as to where the Ebon Hawk was, how it got here, etc...dont give us "memory wipe" crap from T3 again lol.
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Old 10-19-2006, 03:57 AM   #35
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Ebon hawk=Awsome but it needs 2 b changed a bit
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Just a thought... isn't the Ebon Hawk already "scrached"?
RedHawke the ebon hawk has a lot of damage but its worse than scrathched and any way thats not what i ment. im sure u no that.

no offence men in last statement, sory if u got ofended

and Hellfyre please learn some grammer it tool a while to under stant exactly what you rote


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Old 10-20-2006, 10:09 AM   #39
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Keep the 'Hawk', its part of series. And as for it nearly being ruined on Malachor, those dints and holes just add character and show experience and you know what they say. "You can't buy experience."
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Old 10-22-2006, 05:54 AM   #40
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They should keep it, but not if it means a lame story arc of how it was apart of a 3rd major event with a 3rd owner.
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