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Old 10-13-2006, 08:49 PM   #1
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A thing that has been bothering me in Episode II(spoilers)

"Shoot him down!" says Anakin.

"We're out of rockets, sir!"

We're out of rockets. This might have been brought up but still it should be pointed out. The LAAT has other weapons rather than the rockets. It has laser cannons, two laser beams, and a laser beam type of thing(don't know name) on it. Why the clone pilot didn't use his laser cannons to shoot down Dooku is beyond me. Anyone else a little stumped as to why they didn't do this?
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Old 10-14-2006, 05:58 AM   #2
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They probably only use the rockets for air to air targets in situations like that. I thought it was a little weird as well, though.



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Old 10-14-2006, 07:07 AM   #3
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well from what i know from my many battles
rockets are only long range wepons but the thing that stumped me .
was why did they even use rockets in the frist place they probley had something like a plasma cannon to be tactical it would be better to use the laser to shoot it down .


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Old 10-14-2006, 05:50 PM   #4
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^^^Many battles? Okay then guy whatever you say. Also, I don't think that the LAAT's have "plasma cannons".



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Old 10-17-2006, 04:00 PM   #5
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Well, I am pretty darn sure the is enough lascannon to be used on any flyers. Optical weapons would work fairly well even against flyers. I guess this proves that most non-pilot oriented clones are weak at air battles, as said.
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Old 10-19-2006, 10:35 PM   #6
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Well, the real reason for this line is because George wanted Obi and Ani to follow Dooku but not kill him in the air, and George probably couldn't think of an excuse for the lasers not to work. However, it is possible that the flyer's lasers were damaged, or that the gunner(s) had been KIA. Perhaps the swoop was simply out of range for lasers.
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Old 10-19-2006, 11:06 PM   #7
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The gunship's blasters don't look to be very fast, and Dooku was small and agile target. I think that the rockets lock onto what they're fired at, since they changed direction slightly when shot at the Techno Union ships.


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Old 10-21-2006, 04:12 PM   #8
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Well, them "not trying" to hit Dooku is just cheese... I think it would look much better if there is a short 2 second scene of blaster shots missing Dooku's ride. It makes more sense that way, and Dooku will look cooler.
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Old 10-21-2006, 10:51 PM   #9
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Yeah, at least make an attempt. And also, that gun in the back of the LAAT, should of been able to shoot down those starfighters.
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Old 10-24-2006, 01:09 AM   #10
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Obviously the plot sequence demanded that they not simply shoot him down, but it was weak, I agree.

Plus, (it's been awhile but anyone with the DVD handy can check) apparently if you watch the scene right before it you can clearly see they have plenty of rockets left, so whoever was modelling that scene forgot to at least give the appearance that what the pilot said was reasonable! gaffe).

I once thought perhaps Dooku mind tricked the pilot to just give fake information to the Jedi onboard. That would mean they were incredibly gullible though, but who knows!


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Old 10-25-2006, 02:37 PM   #11
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Whatever it is, they should have done the scene better. And its not too farfetched if Dooku can dodge attacks from a couple of LAAT anyways.
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Old 10-25-2006, 06:12 PM   #12
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Just to let you know, you probably don't have to put (spoilers) after the title, considering Episode II came out 4 years ago.


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Old 10-25-2006, 06:39 PM   #13
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Someone might not have seen Episode II yet.
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Old 10-26-2006, 08:38 AM   #14
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It was all part of Palpatine's evil scheme.


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Old 10-26-2006, 11:42 AM   #15
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man! i was just going to say that!


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Old 10-26-2006, 05:44 PM   #16
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And with that in mind, the clone troopers are the property of Palpatine.
They may have been instructed deep in their unconscious minds not to harm certain individuals.

I believe this isn't all too far fetched. After all, look what happens in Ep. III.




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Old 10-26-2006, 07:39 PM   #17
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Some clones didn't follow Order 66, I think. Then they were eventually killed.
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Old 10-27-2006, 07:00 AM   #18
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those were the Clone Commandos, and they were the only ones who had sense.
the pilot was a pure clone troop, tho


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Old 10-27-2006, 09:05 AM   #19
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those were the Clone Commandos, and they were the only ones who had sense.
The Clone Commandos did not have mental freedom, they were just mentally and physically enhanced. It was the Advanced Reconnaissance Commandos who were able to think freely and had some sense.

But isn't this thread slowly, but surely veering way off-topic?


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Old 10-27-2006, 09:46 AM   #20
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Surely he could have just gone faster and rammed him off? :|


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Old 10-29-2006, 02:27 PM   #21
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The Clone Commandos did not have mental freedom, they were just mentally and physically enhanced.
yeah, thats what i meant


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Old 10-30-2006, 02:03 PM   #22
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Surely he could have just gone faster and rammed him off? :|
Yeah, its like trying to ram a F16 with a Biplane...

But yeah, Its the ARC Troopers that are trained with the greatest amount of free will, whatever that means. Though I think the whole scene have nothing to do with free will of the clones, but rather "free will of the script writers"
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Old 10-30-2006, 04:11 PM   #23
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Count dokou was not meant to die in episode II, becuase in episode III anakin kills him and turns him even more to the DARK SIDE!
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Old 10-30-2006, 05:52 PM   #24
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Count dokou was not meant to die in episode II, becuase in episode III anakin kills him and turns him even more to the DARK SIDE!


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Old 10-30-2006, 06:51 PM   #25
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It's not like the clones knew that Count Dooku was apart of this plan of Galactic Domination. They just thought that he was an enemy to the Republic, which he was.
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Old 10-31-2006, 06:38 AM   #26
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Yeah, its like trying to ram a F16 with a Biplane...
Erm, the LAAT is much bigger and faster than the crappy little speeder dooku was on...


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Old 10-31-2006, 06:52 AM   #27
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Yeah, its like trying to ram a F16 with a Biplane...
No it isn't.



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Old 10-31-2006, 07:39 AM   #28
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its the other way around, only that the "F16" here is the bigger in mass.


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Old 11-02-2006, 10:38 AM   #29
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He may have been talking about the F16 and Biplane in terms of speed, in which case he would still be very wrong.



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Old 11-02-2006, 11:27 AM   #30
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yeah, speed is the reason i said it's the other way round.


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