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Old 10-23-2006, 08:03 AM   #1
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What you couldn't do/say in KotOR II...

What things did you (as the Exile) want to do/say in KotOR II but couldn't do/say in KotOR II because the game didn't allow you to? Discuss...
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Old 10-23-2006, 08:06 AM   #2
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Force Choke the handmaiden!

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Old 10-23-2006, 09:25 AM   #3
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Old 10-23-2006, 01:06 PM   #4
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Get MY lightsaber back from Atris!!


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Old 10-23-2006, 01:19 PM   #5
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:36 PM   #7
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Let Kreia live.
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:45 PM   #8
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Am I the only person who actually thought Kreia was KotOR's best character?


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Old 10-24-2006, 12:46 AM   #9
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Am I the only person who actually thought Kreia was KotOR's best character?
No way! IMO, Kreia is by far the best character in the KotOR series so far. I also wanted to spare Kreia as well. I agree with you. I would have loved to have taken a 'grey philosophy, prove that the teachings of the Jedi and the Sith are both wrong' Kreia type role in KotOR II. But oh no! It's always about choosing between the LS and the DS isn't it?! I say screw both sides; both extremes are flawed and they annoy me!

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Yeah, in a DS play-through, I would have liked to have said Atton's line "What the hell are you doing on our ship?" And after the Handmaiden's reply, I would have liked the option to...

"[Force Choke] You will get off this ship and return to Atris now!" Then I would have released her. If she decided to attack me, she would have been killed, because she can't beat me, T3-M4, Atton, Bao-Dur and Kreia all by herself, no way.

If she agreed to get off the ship I would have pretended to let her go, then I would have fried her to death with force-lightning just when she's walking towards the exit of the Ebon Hawk. Wouldn't you call that being a true DS *******?

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Get MY lightsaber back from Atris!!
Yeah, that ticked me off too. If the game had of allowed me to, I would have fought against Atris in an attempt to gain my lightsaber back, even if I was role-playing as a full LS'der. That schutta had no right to keep my lightsaber damn it!

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Old 10-24-2006, 12:13 PM   #10
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I'm gonna agree with Jediphile. I'm also going to say that I wanted to be able to use force corruption from Empire at War to be able to turn Brianna fully DS. Oh, and more influence/dialogue with Mandalore. (I hate calling him that.) And I wanted to repair HK-47 again. Maybe the option to upgrade him even more. Ya know, like add a real sniper rifle or a rocket launcher, or even a shotgun type energy weapon? Though I definitely think it would have been cool to actually do the repair work on him like in the first masterpiece.
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:09 PM   #11
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Get MY lightsaber back from Atris!!
Agreed. And get more Lightsabers, there just weren't enough.

Also, shouldn't this be in the Telos Tourist Bereau?
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Old 10-24-2006, 05:44 PM   #12
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Hoods, More sabers, romance options, full love scenes etc. Most importantly what was needed was an actual ending.


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Old 10-24-2006, 06:24 PM   #13
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Am I the only person who actually thought Kreia was KotOR's best character?
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Old 10-24-2006, 08:07 PM   #14
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Am I the only person who actually thought Kreia was KotOR's best character?
She's a great character. I haven't found a better manipulative hag than Kreia. I just want her nice and dead at the very end.


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Old 10-24-2006, 10:02 PM   #15
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She's a great character. I haven't found a better manipulative hag than Kreia. I just want her nice and dead at the very end.
*Devon throws a shoe at Jae*


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Old 10-25-2006, 01:08 AM   #16
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Has nobody noticed that this thread requires a move to the Telos place?


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Old 10-25-2006, 06:14 AM   #17
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*Devon throws a shoe at Jae*
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Old 10-25-2006, 08:06 AM   #18
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Has nobody noticed that this thread requires a move to the Telos place?
I have, and I am moving it now... Bad Architect!


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Old 10-27-2006, 07:08 PM   #19
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Smash Goto in a thousand tiny pieces, lay a juicy one on Atton, and send the Disciple back home.
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Old 10-27-2006, 11:04 PM   #20
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Send both Disciple and Atton packing, and declare my undying devotion to Bao-Dur!
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Old 10-28-2006, 12:18 AM   #21
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Kick Kreia off the Ebon Hawk.


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Old 10-28-2006, 02:25 AM   #22
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Kick Kreia off the Ebon Hawk.
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Old 10-28-2006, 07:04 AM   #23
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telling vrook 2 go space himself and prolly installing/removing the pacifist package at will for HK... be pretty funny having him all hippy-like at the start of a quest then have the good ol HK back by the time its done.
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Old 10-28-2006, 07:16 AM   #24
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Turn your party members truly dark.

Play the game as nature (oblivion if you will) intended.

More times when you could say, DS: "your money means nothing to me [then ask for something evil]

Also, I'd love to say to the Exchange or Czerka: "You only did me a favour so I'd do you a favour, ohhh [NPC's Name].
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Old 10-28-2006, 02:41 PM   #25
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I would have liked an option to.. not follow the main quest, kick out Kreia and Mical and Bao Dur...

Then through manipulation I would have liked to get a well paid job on onderon and live there with the party members. Why should I want to find the Jedi masters? So, I regained my connection to the force. That's a good thing, no need to have an explanation how. So, they exiled me from the order.. and? I could just live a normal life and use the force to my advantage.

But of course there is no Rpg that allows you to turn away from the main quest.


I just thought, that In Kotor II the motivation of the PC (my PC) to follow the main quest did not exist.
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Old 10-28-2006, 02:52 PM   #26
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Old 10-30-2006, 09:32 AM   #27
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I would like to have:

jabbed GOTO with my lightsaber and watched him melt.

Made out with Mira

Beaten the truth out of Kriea

Made out with the handmaiden

launched the remote out of the loading ramp

made out with Visas

decapitate Mical
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:53 PM   #28
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Yeah..... I'd pretty much do the same as darth siner......

forca crush/chocke/lightning/crush again mical...... I HATED him

"sent a charge up visa's loading ramp" (I just can't forget that one)

direct romance options instead of that bore that people only talk about it on those ebon hawk cut scenes

an option to have your party members use dark side dialigues when you influence them taht way
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Old 10-31-2006, 08:00 PM   #29
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Finish the game.


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Old 11-02-2006, 07:37 PM   #30
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^^^^

Ouch!!


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Old 11-03-2006, 05:58 AM   #31
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^^^^

Ouch!!
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Using the Chewbacca Defense, during the Exile's original trial in the recording:
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Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, You would certainly want you to believe that that the council is justified in exiling me. And you make a good case. Hell, I;d almost exile myself! But, ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!
Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a Jedi defending my very life, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, [approaches and softens] does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.
Of course i'd follow that up by suddenly producing a monkey and shouting "Here, look at the monkey. Look at the silly monkey!" causing Vrook's head to explode.
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Old 11-03-2006, 09:10 AM   #32
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Using the Chewbacca Defense, during the Exile's original trial in the recording:
Of course i'd follow that up by suddenly producing a monkey and shouting "Here, look at the monkey. Look at the silly monkey!" causing Vrook's head to explode.
ROFL

i would have loved to have been able to defend myself against the council/and or fight them all (im always a lightsider) but in my opinion, at that point the player if LS is the only jedi left in the galaxy, as kavar, vrook, zai-el muppet, were all cowards, and would never stop the sith, so i would of liked to have fought them all, instead of having kreia 'rescue' me.



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Old 11-04-2006, 12:12 AM   #33
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Vrook in particular needed a good thwack upside the head. But why stop there? With all of the force powers, we could become quite creative.


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Old 11-04-2006, 02:17 AM   #34
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Tell Dol Grenn on Telos, that he looks 60 and is still just a lieutenant.
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Old 11-05-2006, 12:06 PM   #35
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the ability to kill a NPC as a darksider instead of engaging combat, like on telos when u rob the mans apartment, instead of engaging in combat, u just smartly walk up to him, plunge and then walk smartly off
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Old 11-05-2006, 01:15 PM   #36
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To ally with Kreia, and destory the Force.
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I would've liked to actually learn from the holocrons in Telos, but no matter how much persuasion I had I never could... Such a waste of an incredible oportunity...
Also, I agree with some of the opinions regarding Kreia's quality as a character.
I really enjoyed her, far more than Malak (the typical good gone bad jedi) she has layers and I like that.
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Old 11-05-2006, 09:37 PM   #38
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Also, I agree with some of the opinions regarding Kreia's quality as a character. I really enjoyed her, far more than Malak (the typical good gone bad jedi) she has layers and I like that.
Yeah, wrinkles on top of wrinkles.


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I would've liked to actually learn from the holocrons in Telos, but no matter how much persuasion I had I never could... Such a waste of an incredible oportunity...
Also, I agree with some of the opinions regarding Kreia's quality as a character.
I really enjoyed her, far more than Malak (the typical good gone bad jedi) she has layers and I like that.
so Kreia is like an onion. Onions have layers, or maybe a parfay they have layers too
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Not enough force choking. Force choke more people. Force choking is fun. I like force choking. Force choking people makes me happy.
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