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Old 02-06-2008, 06:02 PM   #121
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I played SWKOTOR 1 over 30 times.
And iīm still in SWKOTOR 2 on Nar Shadaa, i think.
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Old 02-16-2008, 01:06 PM   #122
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#3 - Charge up Atton's loading ramp.

#2 - Give Ed Asner Master Vrook the slow, painful, beatdown I've been dying to give him since K1... with my fists (tactile is so much more satisfying).

and, most importantly,

#1 - At the end, take Kreia in my arms, and just hold her.
No comments on #3, #2 would be fun to watch, and QFE for #1, cause it would end the story in a much better way.

I would like them to make a candid easteregg endint type thing after you finish the game though. The Handmaiden poem and Atton jokes are all nice, but there can be more. I always think that it would be fun if Mira sings "don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me" when your exile got an established boy/girl. or Kreia sings "My milkshake brings all the hutts to the yard"
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Old 03-02-2008, 12:18 PM   #123
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Probably one of the more popular choices here: Romance.

Male characters could have Brianna, Visas or Mira, female characters could have Mical, Atton or Bao-Dur. And you'd get to actually end up picking one and the others may become jealoous, but it's better than the occasional "Your feelings for him/her..." discussions aboard the Ebon Hawk.

I also wanted to punch Disciple and tell him to back off. The exile was like his childhood crush and he hasn't quite gotten over it... it's creepy. Give me some non-joke Atton dialogue over him any day.
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Old 03-02-2008, 12:41 PM   #124
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1: Shove Kreia through an Airlock.

2: Shove Kreia onto a lightsaber.

3: Shoot Kreia.

4: Shove Kreia into an incinerator.

5: Space Kreia.

6: Shoot her again.

7: Burn her body.

8: Feed her to a Rancor.

Did I mention killing Kreia?
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Old 03-02-2008, 01:37 PM   #125
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#3 - Charge up Atton's loading ramp.

#2 - Give Ed Asner Master Vrook the slow, painful, beatdown I've been dying to give him since K1... with my fists (tactile is so much more satisfying).

and, most importantly,

#1 - At the end, take Kreia in my arms, and just hold her
I wouldn't expect that Atton has a "loading ramp", mainly because he is a guy. I tried to come at that in a respectful way.
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Did I mention killing Kreia?
Actually, I think that you left that out...

Another thing that I wish I could do is:
1. Force Push (random) people into that central pit on Nar Shadaa. O' the evil fun...
2. Run faster
3. Pilot the Ebon Hawk
4. Have the ability to slice limbs off...

Thats all that I can think of for now....

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Old 03-03-2008, 11:00 PM   #126
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- Will It Blend?: Goto
- Backhand Atris, take the lightsaber, and run like hell.
- Definatly more diverse and deeper romance options
- It's already a popular mod, but something not a human available as a main character
- A change in costume with Visas, like with the light and dark side.
- Blade color bronze crystal produced didn't look so much like orange
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Old 03-04-2008, 11:38 AM   #127
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- pimping up EH with all the blingblings... lowrider, huge speakers, 43248698 tvs, huge pool with fountain in the middle, animal prints... and get it smooth with any female crew member gta style while doing drive-by in the hood.

Buy insurance for crashlanding.
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Old 03-13-2008, 11:55 PM   #128
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ďBackhand Atris, take the lightsaber and run like H***Ē
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Yes! I wanted to get my double-bladed silver lightsaber back so badly.

The thing that bugged me most about the KotORs was the lack of acrobatics. I had just come from Jedi Academy were the sky was the limitÖ it was like losing a third dimension, I hated it most in Trayus Core. I really wanted to jump off the edge or be pushed off or something other than seeing Kreia fall off.
I also would have loved to explore more of Dantooine since I loved the world in game one and thereís even less of it in game two. Stupid barriers. Actually restoring the fuel stocks on Telos rather than only making a deal for that to occur would have been nice as well.
Iím not sure if anyone mentioned this already, but I would have liked to see Visasís face. Me being a Visas fan Iíd like to see her in color as opposed the pictures of her face in Star Wars Tales Volume 6.
As mentioned above flight of some form or another, if done well, would have been a major bonus in this oneís book. I donít like that the Hawk is my ship, yet I can never even sit down in it, which brings me to my biggest problem: Eating. You have no idea how annoying it got to stand there in the Black Rakkatan village with all that transparent yellow food set out untouched in rows and not be able to even touch it. It was worse in the Sith Lords; not only was I subjected to watching dozens of other beings drink with the same yellow food arrayed before them, but the one time I actually was allowed to purchase something edible I had to feed it to Kath hounds! I donít drink but I would at least like to have something when I go into all these restaurants. If I donít Iíll start to feel like those people who go to coffee shops for the internet access but donít buy anything. (Just kidding on the last one.) Yes, if you were wondering I am a teenage boy and have an appetite to match my age, though not my stature.


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Old 03-17-2008, 05:24 PM   #129
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I'd of loved to call the disciple a fag.

"forgive me, I am disciple, I think I am so smart"

"No, you are a fag" :P
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Old 03-17-2008, 05:54 PM   #130
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- pimping up EH with all the blingblings... lowrider, huge speakers, 43248698 tvs, huge pool with fountain in the middle, animal prints... and get it smooth with any female crew member gta style while doing drive-by in the hood.

Buy insurance for crashlanding.
You took the words right out of my mouth.

I would take the EH on MTV's Pimp My Ride and get it outfitted like GOTO's Yaht...

Or, better yet, I would just use the Trandoshan slavers to take over GOTO's Yaht and then turn it into a Playboy Mansion Spaceship...

(yes...it might sound lewd, but compared to the other things said in this thread, its not really that bad).


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Old 03-17-2008, 07:45 PM   #131
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#2 - Give Ed Asner Master Vrook the slow, painful, beatdown I've been dying to give him since K1... with my fists (tactile is so much more satisfying).
Haven't you played DS?

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2: Shove Kreia onto a lightsaber.

3: Shoot Kreia.

6: Shoot her again.

Did I mention killing Kreia?
You can do all of those.

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1. Force Push (random) people into that central pit on Nar Shadaa. O' the evil fun...
2. Run faster
#1 - How about mind tricking two thugs into jumping into the pit?
#2 - One word: turbo.


And the only thing I want is to play the game. The whole game. The whole, finished game.


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Old 03-18-2008, 12:49 AM   #132
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#1 - How about mind tricking two thugs into jumping into the pit?
#2 - One word: turbo.
#1-- Ohh, I know. I have done it. I just want to do that to more people, actually see them jump in (or be pushed in). I also just want to do that to unsuspecting random people. Thats all.
#2--Yes, I also know that there is force speed, but I thought that it might have been nice to not ahve to run with the blur, and use force points, and yeah.

On the other hand, I do kinda want to not be noticed as a Jedi sometimes. Just recently I have been playing KotoR 1 and not using any Jedi equipment, or even using a lightsaber, yet people know that I am a Jedi. I think that that is crazy!! Same thing with the Sith on Mannan, the recruiters don't want to talk to you... and you can't 'join' the Sith.

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The thing that bugged me most about the KotORs was the lack of acrobatics. I had just come from Jedi Academy were the sky was the limitÖ it was like losing a third dimension, I hated it most in Trayus Core. I really wanted to jump off the edge or be pushed off or something other than seeing Kreia fall off.
I also would have loved to explore more of Dantooine since I loved the world in game one and thereís even less of it in game two. Stupid barriers. Actually restoring the fuel stocks on Telos rather than only making a deal for that to occur would have been nice as well.
Iím not sure if anyone mentioned this already, but I would have liked to see Visasís face. Me being a Visas fan Iíd like to see her in color as opposed the pictures of her face in Star Wars Tales Volume 6.
As mentioned above flight of some form or another, if done well, would have been a major bonus in this oneís book. I donít like that the Hawk is my ship, yet I can never even sit down in it, which brings me to my biggest problem: Eating. You have no idea how annoying it got to stand there in the Black Rakkatan village with all that transparent yellow food set out untouched in rows and not be able to even touch it. It was worse in the Sith Lords; not only was I subjected to watching dozens of other beings drink with the same yellow food arrayed before them, but the one time I actually was allowed to purchase something edible I had to feed it to Kath hounds! I donít drink but I would at least like to have something when I go into all these restaurants. If I donít Iíll start to feel like those people who go to coffee shops for the internet access but donít buy anything. (Just kidding on the last one.) Yes, if you were wondering I am a teenage boy and have an appetite to match my age, though not my stature.
Indeed, that has most definately bothered and annoyed me too. There should have been a little more depth in everyday functions. Well, on that thought, just not having to use the bathroom.

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Old 03-18-2008, 01:11 AM   #133
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Think to myself "Hey, Kreia is evil." And then space her. Oh, yeah, while I'm at it, kill Sion with something other than the Power of Love/Friendship.
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Old 03-18-2008, 01:35 AM   #134
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#1-- Ohh, I know. I have done it. I just want to do that to more people, actually see them jump in (or be pushed in). I also just want to do that to unsuspecting random people. Thats all.
Yes, that would be fun...MUAHAHAHAHAHA!

#2--Yes, I also know that there is force speed, but I thought that it might have been nice to not ahve to run with the blur, and use force points, and yeah.[/QUOTE]

That's what the turbo cheat is for.

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Oh, yeah, while I'm at it, kill Sion with something other than the Power of Love/Friendship.
There are a bunch of alternatives to that--convincing him he's already dead, for instance, or convincing him that Kreia has marked him for death.


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Old 03-18-2008, 01:43 AM   #135
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My point is, it should be possible to kill Sion without having to persuade him to die. I HIT HIM WITH A LIGHTSABER WHY DOESN'T HE FALL APART?
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Old 03-18-2008, 01:44 AM   #136
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Well, that was the whole point of Sion. I liked it.


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Old 03-18-2008, 01:46 AM   #137
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What happens when Luke hits Vader's wrist with a lightsaber?

Oh, that's right. The hand SEVERED.

You don't survive getting hit ninety times with a lightsaber!
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Old 03-18-2008, 01:29 PM   #138
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I'm going to take a wild guess and say that the reason Sion "survived getting hit by a lightsaber" is game mechanics, and that his power isn't a god mode cheat like most people seem to think.
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Old 03-18-2008, 03:45 PM   #139
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Game mechanics should reflect the canon. Of course, I frankly hate KotoR's mechanical systems - D20 is not a good setup for a CRPG. Two articles that deal with this that I found enlightening,

http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=227

http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=188
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Old 03-18-2008, 07:50 PM   #140
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That's what the turbo cheat is for.
Oh, sorry. Did I mention that I only have the Xbox version of both KotOR I & KotOR II?

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Old 03-18-2008, 07:53 PM   #141
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Ah, a shame.


And Sion's condition wasn't a result of game mechanics...it was more Deus Ex Machina.


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Old 03-18-2008, 07:56 PM   #142
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I agree. It is quite a shame. I am planning on eventually getting it once I have my own computer. Does that count?

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Old 03-23-2008, 07:54 PM   #143
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I was just replaying Telos, and when I was B4, I actually talked to Jana Lorso. After downloading the dirt from the mainframe, I wish there could be more dialogue options with her and B4. It's pretty much like

Jana-B4 go be my droid slave, blah blah blah
B4- Ya Kay, whatev.

I'd much prefer something like this...

Jana- B4 Driod slave, blah blah
B4 - Uh, no thx. I quit.
Jana- Wait what?
B4- You heard me, meatbag. This job sucks, I'm out.

Also that half the time when you try and start conversation with Bao-Dur, the only response isn't "Never mind." I want to talk to Bao dur more, cause he rocks, and the game is like "No, sorry bye, talk to Disciple." I don't like that cause Disciple is ugly. Oh yeah, one more, fix Disciple's ugly face.
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Old 03-23-2008, 08:28 PM   #144
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Oh, you should talk to Opo Chano and the droid by the docks while you're B-4D4.


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I don't like that cause Disciple is ugly.
I always found Disciple somehow look alike to Han Solo. Only on looks, though, his personality is... Well, let's just pity Harrison Ford.


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Old 03-23-2008, 10:03 PM   #146
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Oh, you should talk to Opo Chano and the droid by the docks while you're B-4D4.
Wow, didn't even think of that. I've been to the cantina as B4, but that's about it.

Also, Ctrl, Han Solo? What is wrong with your brain/eyes/both? I get han solo nowhere from him, the most I get is the Prince Charming from Shrek 2. (Look at that hair, LOOK AT THE HAIR AND TELL ME YOU DON'T SEE THAT!) I do think you should be able to pick whether or not to take handmaiden or disciple. But if you pick handmaiden and your female, who will you have as a romance option, you may ask. Simple, Bao-Dur romance option. I can honestly imagine them having a sort of sitcom where it's them living together, married, with remote as a pet.

Speaking of Bao-Dur, I would like to know more of his background with Exile. We basically get "I was the tech, she was the General, she told me to blow up Malacor V, and I did. End"
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:06 PM   #147
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Wow, didn't even think of that. I've been to the cantina as B4, but that's about it.
Oh, you should definitely do it next time. It's quite fun--and rewarding (credit-wise ). Also, it's fun to pick the [Lie] options when you've B-4D4 (don't worry, no DS points ).

Oh, and speaking of credits, Chodo will just give you 3,000 credits if you ask him. After dealing with the Exchange, ask him if he's considered bribing a Czerka employee, and with a high enough Persuade (which you should have anyway), he'll hand over 500 credits. And then after you talk to Opo Chano, Chodo will give you the 2,500 credits you need (though Opo Chano never actually gives them back...unless you kill him ).

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I get han solo nowhere from him, the most I get is the Prince Charming from Shrek 2. (Look at that hair, LOOK AT THE HAIR AND TELL ME YOU DON'T SEE THAT!)
I do see it!

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I do think you should be able to pick whether or not to take handmaiden or disciple.
I've been saying that for some time now. What they should have done was have each character unlockable--so that if you play the game twice (once for each gender) you get to pick which one you want the third time. Or they could have just stuck with the original plan to have Handmaiden for LS characters and Visas for DSers.

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But if you pick handmaiden and your female, who will you have as a romance option, you may ask.
Atton?

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Speaking of Bao-Dur, I would like to know more of his background with Exile. We basically get "I was the tech, she was the General, she told me to blow up Malacor V, and I did. End"
I could barely get him to say that. Every time I talk to him, the conversation goes something like:

BAO-DUR: Yes, General?
ME: Never mind.



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Old 03-23-2008, 11:13 PM   #148
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I could barely get him to say that. Every time I talk to him, the conversation goes something like:

BAO-DUR: Yes, General?
ME: Never mind.

Argh, same here. It drove me crazy. His conversation options seem sadly underdeveloped--not sure if this is due to cut content, or if it was always like that. Anyway, I ended up flipping a few switches with KSE just to be able to advance in conversation and train him as a Jedi.

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Anyway, I ended up flipping a few switches with KSE just to be able to advance in conversation and train him as a Jedi.
Same here. I had no use for him otherwise, since I'm always a Sentinel.


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It's really disappointing, because Bao-Dur has the longest history with the Exile and a deeper bond with him/her than any other party member. He should have one of the richest conversation trees, not the most lacking.

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I could barely get him to say that. Every time I talk to him, the conversation goes something like:

BAO-DUR: Yes, General?
ME: Never mind.
And somehow he still manages to be not only my favorite character in the entire KOTOR series, but is pretty much half of my number 2 ship of anything ever (1st is always Dwangela) with LSFExile. No idea how though. Met him on Telos, and was like "Wow, this guy rocks." Use him pretty much on every planet too.

But basically, your pretty much right. All he really is is just "Hey use me for one level, than never use me again!" Character (ala Zalbarr. Who ever really used him someplace other than Kashyyyk?) But I'm happy just as long as there's a thing called fanfiction to satisfy my Bao fix. [/fangirlrant]
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Well, despite Bao-dur's quiet demeanor, when he does say something, it's hilarious. For instance:

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BAO-DUR: I think he wanted us to give up the General to his poorly-trained collection of bounty hunters.

ATTON: Ah. well that would explain it. Which one do you want?

BAO-DUR: I'll take the stupid one who decided to threaten us rather than shoot us when he had the chance.


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Exactly. I wish there was more of that. Like how HK-47 is always interjecting with "Shall I blast him now, master?" Bao-Dur didn't comment nearly as frequently as I would like.

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Indeed. More funny lines from someone other than a droid. HK and G0-T0 get a lot of the action.

Also, it would be cool if you could have run into more characters from the first game. I would love it if you're just walkin' rown Nar Shaddaa and it's like "Woah! Mission in the Jekk'Jekk Tarr! Yeah, kick that bouncer's butt Zalbarr!"
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Old 03-24-2008, 01:01 PM   #155
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Well, they couldn't have done that, since Big Z, Mission, Jolee, and Juhani could all be dead. And they even screwed up a bit when they only had Carth and Bastila to deal with.


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Oh, you do have a point....but there showing up could be an effect of what you set Revan to at the beginning. Like the sith holocron in Korriban, if you set Revan to light side on Perageus, you could just happen to run into Juhani on Dantoeen, half insane, eating a Kinrath, and mumbling something about Quatra. Or maybe Zalbarr and Mission give you something to help make the Exchange hate you on Nar Shaddaa, like a secret bonus mission of sorts. We all know Mission likes getting people to hate her.
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Yeah, they could have done that, but I think that would have been way too much effort on Obsidian's part. Personally, I think they should have just stuck with the canonical LSM Revan and worked on the important stuff--like finishing the game.

And as I mentioned before, they never got the Carth/Cede thing to work right.

Also, there was the matter of hiring all the voice actors.


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Don't forget that they may not have been able to get all the voice actors back on board. The only thing gamers hate worse than missing content is content with 'replacement' voice overs.

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We can only dream... I'm trying to think of other things. Definatly, better control of the other two in the party. No idea if this is just a glitch, but most of the time when I have Atton in my party and a fight comes on. The player I'm controling runs up to fight along with the other computer player. But Atton always just stands in the back, in attack position, and it says "Combat action engaged" or whatever. and I KNOW I'm not using the little things (whatever they're called "Stationary, Grenader, Jedi Support" ect.) because the only time I use them is when there's a minefield with enemies across it. And only then, it's stationary and they've got blasters.

Also, that less characters could become jedi. I mean, it's cool when you've got like five available jedi's. But maybe if less could become Jedi, you would have more time to focus on the character and get them to Jedi. You know, so you don't have to travel around five planets to gain influence with one character to turn them into a jedi, when instead you could just talk to one for a few minutes, and bam: JEDI!
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Also, Ctrl, Han Solo?
Yeah, I dunno why. It's funny, cause he's hair also resembled RotJ Luke to me as well. But it's better that I stop it before I get myself lynched.

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Yeah, well, I think he could have used some more work, as almost all the character of K2.

Plus, what's up with that voice? Why does he whispers all the time, to the point I almost have to turn the volume up every time he speaks.


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