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Old 01-13-2007, 05:32 AM   #1
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Easy way to kill Nihilus, Sion and Traya

This is dark side way. You must be a Consular and when you become lvl 15 talk to Kreia and become a SITH LORD. Then when you need to kill them, just use force crush. I did this with force crush, and it can take off about 140. For Sion and Traya and Nihilus it always said saved, but it was still a 70 off.

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Old 01-13-2007, 07:27 AM   #2
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This is dark side way. You must be a Consular and when you become lvl 15 talk to Kreia and become a SITH LORD. Then when you need to kill them, just use force crush. I did this with force crush, and it can take off about 140. For Sion and Traya and Nihilus it always said saved, but it was still a 70 off.

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Erm, yeah. I'm a Jedi Consular and I follow the light side and I don't need that method. Force Crush is one of the overpowered Force Powers in the game and not many people can save it.

Personal rating: 6/10
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Old 01-13-2007, 07:42 AM   #3
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Atually, even if they can save, the power will still do damage (Im sure everyone knows that), so you can just do it everytime until ur target dies. Also, Nihilus is real easy, so, any way is a easy way...

...Unless you take him down with blasters only.
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Old 01-13-2007, 08:37 AM   #4
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That Darkside ability is strong, no doubt. But if you need to rely on that to defeat Sion, Nihilus and Traya, you probably didn't skill your character the right way...
Using cool unarmed combat should also do the trick.
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Old 01-13-2007, 02:59 PM   #5
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Getting that power depends on your alignment, not your class. It wouldn't help much to choose that one.

The Sith Lords were underpowered enough, IMO. No need to make them even more so.


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Old 01-13-2007, 05:08 PM   #6
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It's easy enough to just kill them with your lightsaber. They're really not all that strong. And besides, Crush is way overpowered. I once
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beat Atris with 2 crushes each time I fought her. Twice in the meeting room where she "killed" Brianna and twice in the room with the holocrons.


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Old 01-13-2007, 08:21 PM   #7
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This is dark side way. You must be a Consular and when you become lvl 15 talk to Kreia and become a SITH LORD. Then when you need to kill them, just use force crush. I did this with force crush, and it can take off about 140. For Sion and Traya and Nihilus it always said saved, but it was still a 70 off.

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Nah, be a Sith Marauder. I was a lvl 42 marauder once and did 230 damage with a flurry.
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Old 01-13-2007, 11:34 PM   #8
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Yeah well...Traya has 869 VP!
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Old 01-14-2007, 02:17 AM   #9
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Yeah well...Traya has 869 VP!
Not very useful, since she has such low strength. All that does is prolong the fight.


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Old 01-14-2007, 06:19 AM   #10
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Nah, be a Sith Marauder. I was a lvl 42 marauder once and did 230 damage with a flurry.
I was below lvl30 and did more damage.
Master speed, The lightsaberform that grants you x3 damage for criticals, plus powerattack that grants you additional x1 for criticals.
x4 Critical with over 300 damage.
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Old 01-14-2007, 08:26 AM   #11
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All you need really to beat a Sith Lord is: a) A lightsaber, b) A few medpacks and c) Enough sense as to when to use those medpacks.
No need to resort to FP's to beat them. Plus, it makes it the whole more fun

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Old 01-14-2007, 12:13 PM   #12
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I was below lvl30 and did more damage.
Master speed, The lightsaberform that grants you x3 damage for criticals, plus powerattack that grants you additional x1 for criticals.
x4 Critical with over 300 damage.
Maybe you were using a lightsaber. I used my fists.
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Old 01-14-2007, 11:28 PM   #13
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Maybe you were using a lightsaber. I used my fists.
i personally think that's a little silly when facing a Jedi due to lack of realism but that's just me.

Most powerful build IMO!

JEDI GUARDIAN -> LIGHTSIDE LIGHTSABER MASTER

Equipment --> anything that boosts STR and/or DEX

Weapon --> standard lightsaber (add strength boosters to lightsaber or crit hits)

Force Power --> Force Enlightenment = level 3 speed, barrier and valor

(with one quick cast you will have a warrier resistant to damage with raised stats and +3 attacks per round)

Feats --> max dualing, first 6 lightsaber specialisation points and toughness
FLURRY is the only attack you will ever use

WHY FLURRY?
Now by the time you reach the end of the game if you have cast enlightenment, not only do you seem invincible, a standard attack will kill sith guards and two flurry's will kill ANY boss (except Kreia's lightsabers, which still wont hurt you much but they take an extra flurry or two). I had to just enguage in standard attacks to make the final battles seem like a struggle.
Master flurry has no penalties and adds an extra attack. You will hit almost every single time so an extra attack will kill ANYTHING anyway so critical strike (which relies on chance) and deathblow (doesn't equal an extra attack, i'm sorry)

WHY LIGHTSIDE?
Going darkside seems quite pointless when being a melee master because it is quicker to kill things in a single attack and you have other party members around like Kreia who are specialised in Zapping things with Storm.

WHY STANDARD SABER?
None of the enemies ever have enough HP to survive more than one flurry. What the heck is the point on getting the unneeded damage bonuses from double sabers or staff when you spend the game trying to put in points to cancel the penalties rather than go single blade where you are powerful from the word go and you fight with MUCH bigger bonuses (you will never miss). Plus i feel more like a Jedi when i have my sword and nothing else. If enemies had more HP and the level cap was reachable, DEFINATELY double sabers or staff for a weapons specialist/marauder. However, for this game they are unneccessary and you will spend most of the game making up for their flaws (however double sabers you can get double the crystals = more stength points to raise your chance to hit)
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Old 01-14-2007, 11:33 PM   #14
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Nah, be a Sith Marauder. I was a lvl 42 marauder once and did 230 damage with a flurry.
Oof, level 42 eh?
I've only reached 28, ever, in TSL. And I have plenty accounts w/all side missinos completed and such.

But on topic:
I admit I do use that power all the time, it's cheap, but it's fun. That's why I always do Dxun/Onderon last, so I can use this power at the sky ramp, fun fun.

But when your Jedi you can't get this power, and yes Nihilus / Sion / Traya are all very easy to kill. Although Traya does have massive vitality points.


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Old 01-15-2007, 02:02 AM   #15
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WHY LIGHTSIDE?
Going darkside seems quite pointless when being a melee master because it is quicker to kill things in a single attack and you have other party members around like Kreia who are specialised in Zapping things with Storm.
Why not DS, Sith Maruder, using Rage? You get a damage boost, but a decrease in DEF, which would be fine since you slaughter a person already.

But in fact, who CARES about strongest build? The game is easy anyway, and you can beat the game with even 'stupid' builds like using fists. In fact, using fists and weaker builds would be great, as the game suddenly becomes harder. In fact, I might not even use this build precisally because it is so strong that it can defeat bosses. I want my bosses to be nice, tough, and impossible to kill in one strike.

And, the only reason you would want to use Force Crush is to see someone choking...which is great.

(Oh, and have you tried your build using the hardcore mods all around? Try them, and see if you are indeed a match for the increased AI intelligence and power.)

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Oof, level 42 eh?
I've only reached 28, ever, in TSL. And I have plenty accounts w/all side missinos completed and such.
You can level yourself up pretty quickly in the Hidden Tomb. You go into the Hidden Tomb, find the body of the Dark Jedi, and search it. Hissis spawn and you kill them. Search the Dark Jedi's body again and more Hissis spawn. Repeat to gain tons of XP, and tons of levels.

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I admit I do use that power all the time, it's cheap, but it's fun. That's why I always do Dxun/Onderon last, so I can use this power at the sky ramp, fun fun.
Oof? How in the world can you use it at the Sky Ramp, when you haven't received the power yet from Kreia, unless you 'cheated'?
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Old 01-15-2007, 06:02 AM   #16
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An easy way to defeat Nihilus? Just attack him, that should do it.

@Silentscope - I think you caught him out there. Although he could be using a mod...

@Obi-Wan Rules - Traya does not have 869hp, she always has double how much you have. Always.


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Old 01-15-2007, 01:21 PM   #17
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I know you get that power from Kreia at the Dantooine enclave, but if you're a Sith Lord you get Sith Crush Opposition etc, that's what I use.


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Old 01-16-2007, 07:57 PM   #18
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Well, thats one of the problems with kotor2: Some sithlords die too easily, namely nihilus.

If tis Revan against anyone I would understand, cause its one sithlord to another. Exile is good, but not THAT good yet even with her(yes, a female, but NO mical scumbag on the ship) special ability. Zion may be easily beaten every secion, but it shows his resilience still, and trays is tough enough for a non physical old hag.
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Old 01-17-2007, 05:28 AM   #19
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Actually PoiuyWired, ALL the Sith Lords die too easily. This game IS too easy. Just like Battlefront II.


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Old 01-17-2007, 05:15 PM   #20
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Actually PoiuyWired, ALL the Sith Lords die too easily. This game IS too easy. Just like Battlefront II.
So, simply, make the game HARDER. Make a stupid build, and see it work. For BFII, I try to play as Bobba Fett in Hero mode, with the main goal of not getting killed WHILE having the Bad Guys win. It's an impossible goal, since heroes are dispoable in BFII, and life is expendable, but...Man, attempting an impossible goal has never been more fun.
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