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Old 03-27-2007, 05:01 AM   #1
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Official Transformers Movie Thread [Spoilers!]

Heated debates among die hard original fans (most of which are close to my age) aside, I always dreamed of a live action Transformers movie when I was a kid, so I will see it regardless.

Images seen here have left me both excited and dissapointed at the same time. (some look cool, others absurd)

At any rate, i'll go see it. And the good part about this, is that for the second time in my life, I have re-discovered the Transformers and appreciate how cool they really are.

I even picked up a couple of the toys recently:



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Old 03-27-2007, 05:55 AM   #2
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They are not exactly subtle when "in disguise", everyone is going to notice the logo on the back.






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Old 03-27-2007, 05:59 AM   #3
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LOL

I DO like this one though!

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Old 03-27-2007, 07:33 AM   #4
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They are not exactly subtle when "in disguise", everyone is going to notice the logo on the back.
Any humans that see it will just think, "ooh, what a nice design!"



Hugo Weaving has been cast as Megatron. Not Frank Welker, but I'm not disappointed. Hugo's got an amazing villan voice and I believe he can pull it off correctly.


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Old 03-27-2007, 07:42 AM   #5
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Any humans that see it will just think, "ooh, what a nice design!"
Are we assuming said humans have not seen the toys/cartoon?

Anywho, I wonder how much it would cost for me to get a new bonnet (hood) made for my car with the logo embossed in like that...






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Old 03-27-2007, 07:43 AM   #6
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I meant humans in the movie. Transformers cartoons don't exist in the movie so humans seeing the logo aren't gonna go "OMG AUTOBOT!"


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Old 03-27-2007, 08:01 AM   #7
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It's a good thing it won't come out until July, I'll have something to look forward to after Spider-man 3

And that 2007 model of the Camaro looks sweet.

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Old 03-27-2007, 08:37 AM   #8
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I still don't believe in Bumbelebee being a Camaro. And for what I have seen this far, all of them are much more "Hey, we should show our weak insides" instead of the classic, bulky "Dude, this is what I call armor". Why do they want to make it flashy and brand new while killing off what we loved in the old ones. But meh, I guess that's what they pretty much do to every single movie based on a comic book.

I'm gonna see it as soon as it comes out around here and then rant more about how Bumblebee has been wrongly done when made into a Camaro. You'll see. You'll all see...


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Old 03-27-2007, 10:43 AM   #9
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I like the new look, the block like ones only looked like that because of the toys.

I think the Citroën C4 should be included in the film as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNHmwA7Ntcs

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Old 03-27-2007, 12:59 PM   #10
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I think Prime still looks pretty good. Ironhide's not too bad either, and I think the modifications they've made to Megatron's face/helmet following fan outrage at the earlier versions are pretty good. MUCH better.

But still... all the characters look a little samey, especially in their body-structure. I mean, I can understand the impulse to make them all "more alien-looking" but... let's face it, it's Transformers. Let's suspend some disbelief here. I would have preferred it if they'd stayed closer to the original, blockier character designs. I mean Starscream for instance... just looks very un-Starscream-like.


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Old 03-27-2007, 02:39 PM   #11
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I'm gonna side with Al on this one apart from one point.

While I haven't seen Megatron in action yet, I don't particulary like his "new" look.

But, I'm still gonna go watch it, see how it is.




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Old 03-27-2007, 05:08 PM   #12
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But still... all the characters look a little samey, especially in their body-structure. I mean, I can understand the impulse to make them all "more alien-looking" but... let's face it, it's Transformers. Let's suspend some disbelief here. I would have preferred it if they'd stayed closer to the original, blockier character designs. I mean Starscream for instance... just looks very un-Starscream-like.
Indeed. I'm not against changes, but I think that they could have made them a bit closer to the originals to at least make them immediately recognizable.

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Old 03-27-2007, 05:11 PM   #13
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They are robots that turn into cars, how can you not recognise them?






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Old 03-27-2007, 05:16 PM   #14
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how can you not recognise them?
Because they're in disguise, Jon.

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Old 03-27-2007, 06:36 PM   #15
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Definitely looking forward to seeing this. Some of the robots looking a little more close to the originals would be nice but I still think most of them look pretty good.


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Old 03-27-2007, 07:23 PM   #17
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Hugo Weaving is doing the voice of Megatron

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Hmm, Frank Welker would have done a better job, frankly. Hugo Weaving's voice is his single most tedious and generic feature.

If they bothered to get Peter Cullen to voice Prime, they should have gone all the way and stuck with Welker for Megatron... They were both iconic voices, why have one and not the other?


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Old 03-27-2007, 09:31 PM   #19
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I'll be seeing this movie this summer without a doubt. Looks pretty good, to me at least.


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Old 03-27-2007, 10:11 PM   #20
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Hmm, Frank Welker would have done a better job, frankly. Hugo Weaving's voice is his single most tedious and generic feature.

If they bothered to get Peter Cullen to voice Prime, they should have gone all the way and stuck with Welker for Megatron... They were both iconic voices, why have one and not the other?
who knows. Megatron only comes at the end anyways, so he wouldn't be speaking much. Plus maybe they wanted to get some big names in.

I'm not complaining tho. I think Weaving has a great voice and he's also a versatile actor, so his voice plus some synthetic alterations for the robotic feel can definitley make him sound villanous.


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Old 03-27-2007, 10:58 PM   #21
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I can't wait to see this movie... I was a really big fan of the old cartoon.
Specially the animated movie they made with Unicron.
I just didn't liked the new design of Megatron that much... Gotta wait and see though....



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Old 03-28-2007, 05:26 PM   #22
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Finally someone paid attention to us...and not in the slaughter-them-all-and-take-their-land way either!

Yea I can't wait to see this movie. I don't care if it sucks or not.

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Old 03-30-2007, 02:50 PM   #23
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They are robots that turn into cars, how can you not recognise them?
Who are these guys and what do they transform into (an no cheating):





Are you saying these characters are immediately recognizable to their original counterparts?

Again, I'm not saying that the designs are bad or any change is unwanted, but I figured it would help bring in old fans along with new...

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I can see similarities with a bunch of the designs. Optimus is the most recognizable one. Jazz is pretty recognizable too and also has the visor, but like optimus it only comes down during battle mode. Bumblebee is a bright yellow car. Ratchet is still a rescue/emergency vehicle. ironhide is a huge dude. Starscream also has some similar design. his g1 desing had a triangular upper body, mostly due to the way the wings folded down behind him. In the movie, they give him a triangular chest as well.

And there are some new posters that you might've seen already



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Giving Optimus Prime a mouth is an awful idea. Sigh.


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Old 03-31-2007, 12:33 AM   #26
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Here's the tv spot on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=106R2zZ9Ea0

both tv spots can be found here at ign:
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Old 03-31-2007, 05:05 AM   #27
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Holy crap! there is a transformers movie? i bet they'll screw it up as they tend to do these days. i liked the original show on fox kids, sharkbyte was the best character by far.


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Old 03-31-2007, 01:27 PM   #28
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No offense, but how the f*** did you not know there was a transformers movie


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Old 04-01-2007, 12:22 AM   #29
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Both TV spots are fantastic but I prefer "Hidden". I think it shows a little more impressive visual effects which are needed to really sell the idea to a general audience. As for the designs, I'm really glad Ironhide and Ratchet are different from one another rather than carbon-copy repaints with a slightly modified head. Sure it would be nice if they had more throwbacks to their original bodies but both designs are cool enough that it really doesn't bother me. And I see so much of Ironhide's tough, southern personality in his design that, IMO, it captures the character far better than his rather arbitrary G1 version ever did.

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I like "hidden" too, but "Destiny" had some cooler shots in it, like Starscream flying under the bridge then flipping over and transforming.

I also thought this was a nice cameo. old bumblebee meets new bumblebee


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Those TV spots are great. Even if the movie blows nuggets of filthy awfulness, those TV spots will still be great.
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Bonecrusher and Optimus duke it out on the freeway!


Sam is interrogated by Barricade about the whereabouts of the AllSpark


Whoa Bonecrusher's gonna bodycheck that bus! They even added his reflection in the bus window! So amazing the level of detail ILM goes to.


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Old 04-03-2007, 10:18 AM   #33
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Thanks for the images Lightsaberboy. I must have watched those trailers a dozen times now, just to pick up on something else. I'm very excited about it now. Those Transformers look great!
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Yeah, I think they look great too.

It's weird how many people are negative about this movie, I'm sure it will turn out good.

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i am HIGHLY dissaponted in megatron and starscream..

megatron was a GUN wtf did a plane come from
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and i see starscream in the trailer but he looks queer as a football bat in the drawing pics on that site.... i dunnno might be a good flick since spielberg is involved... but i dunno... looks like they are gonna revamp it too much to my tastes.
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Starscream looks fine. He design is very similar to his G1 design, but since they're not using mass shifting, they have to compensate his huge upper body with a smaller lower body. the cockpit still folds down to his chest and his upper body has a triangular shape much like in G1, and he has 2 wings that come out of his back much like his cartoon design. Besides, his little move he does when he flips over the bridge and transforms mid-air in the tv spot is awesome.

and megatron being a gun wouldn't work in the film. Not to mention they don't want to deal with the mass shifting, it's stupid for the allmighty Megatron to turn into a gun and require someone else to fire him. That's like Darth Vader needing someone to swing his lightsaber for him. Besides, from what I know he stays in Cybertronian form most if not all of the movie anyways.


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Hmm. Simply put, Starscream is unrecognisable.

Look at Prime. You can recognise Prime. you look at that freeway screenshot, squint for a moment and state: "yep, that's old Opto. Yes it is."

Then you look at the Starscream images. He's brown, he's... chubby, for want of a better term, he has little short legs with reverse-jointed insect-feet and some sort of squished up bug-face. He looks nothing like Starscream.

If sources hadn't put the name of Starscream to that image, would we have said "Oh look, it's Starscream." Of course not.

Does this sort of obvious observation make those who point it out "negative nancies"? Likewise, of course it doesn't.

None of us have seen the movie, none of us can review it just yet. But the fact remains that changes HAVE been made to the characters. It's no use denying it. And there's no good reason for most of those changes, as far as I can tell. They kept Prime's "look" fairly intact. They could have done the same for all the characters.

This is Transformers. It's not any other alien-robot movie. It's a movie about a certain set of established characters. If you're going to keep one or two of those characters intact, why would you not keep them all intact? The answer is, there's no reason not to.


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Starscream is recognizable enough. As I said, he has a lot of similarities to his cartoon designs. however since they're not using the mass shifting that made all the transformations look weird in G1, the design has to look slightly different and they have to compensate his huge upper body with a smaller lower body, especially if they don't want him to basically dwarf all the other autobots, which he almost does since he's already about twice the size of Jazz and Bumblebee.

plus, when he transforms in the tv spot, he looks badass.


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Old 04-09-2007, 01:37 AM   #39
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Regardless of how some of the characters aren't exactly going to look like there counterparts from the original series, I still think it's going to be a sweet movie. I just wonder how they end up on earth from Cybertron. Plus I think the new direction that they're going with in the design of the transformers is good. It is the year 2007 and the original designs were made in 1984, so they deserve a revamp.



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well from what i've gathered, Megatron heads to earth before the other transformers in search of the AllSpark, this thing that brings life to transformers. Optimus hid it there because Megatron wanted to use it to rule all of Cybertron. However when he lands on Earth, he lands in the artic and gets frozen over. Then some dudes from some secret organization called Sector Seven find him and take him for studying.

there's a prequel comic that's out that talks about the war on cybertron and stuff. There's also a prequel novel that's out called Transformers: Ghosts of yesterday. The setting for that is 1969 and Sector Seven created a shuttle called Ghost I from reverse engineering the technology they found while studying Megatron. The crew goes into space and somehow get warped to some distant galaxy, right between the Nemesis and Ark.


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