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Old 04-16-2007, 10:29 PM   #1
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A little help...

I'm just curious, would someone mind killing me for a little while?
I can never get very far with my research in the chatbox before people get all creeped out.

Simple question.

Would you kill me?
subquestion(a) why would you?
subquestion(b) Why wouldn't you?


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Old 04-16-2007, 10:34 PM   #2
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First off, why would you even ask that RJM? Is it part of a critique or something. To answer your question, Why would I want to kill you? You've done nothing to deserve it as far as I know.

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Old 04-16-2007, 10:39 PM   #3
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A critique?

Just curious...

Wether or not I have done anything doesn't really seem to matter. I've done many things.

The question remains.


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Old 04-16-2007, 10:39 PM   #4
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Possibly.

a)if you were threatening my life or the life of someone i cared about, about to bring around the total annihilation of the universe, that kind of thing. or a sith

b)I wouldn't for the Bible says "though shall not murder", and because you haven't done any of the previously mentioned evils.


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Old 04-16-2007, 10:42 PM   #5
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Didn't threaten anyone, no dastardly intentions, just standing here, alone with you.
Would you do it?


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Old 04-16-2007, 10:46 PM   #6
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Why would we want to? Are you a murder, terrorist, pedophile, anything like that? If not I'd have no reason to be, but if so I would, gladly.
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Old 04-16-2007, 10:47 PM   #7
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I'm not. I'm just here with you, and you have any means to kill me if you so wish.


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Old 04-16-2007, 10:49 PM   #8
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Are you asking to be euthanized?
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Old 04-16-2007, 10:55 PM   #9
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Not exactly, just killed, for no reason, or some reason.


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Old 04-16-2007, 10:56 PM   #10
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I would not kill you. Why? Because there would have to be a great deal of motivation for me to act in such a way. In fact, I intend to never in my life be in such a motivated situation.
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Old 04-16-2007, 10:59 PM   #12
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@TK, Why would you need so much motivation? It doesn't take much to pull a trigger, or slip a knife between a couple ribs.


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Old 04-16-2007, 11:00 PM   #13
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Because I value life, especially human life. Yours included.


Even if I didn't, it takes even less effort to do nothing than it does to pull a trigger. Some motivation is required to overcome inertia.
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:02 PM   #14
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What value could it have?

If I was willing to let you kill me, I don't value it.


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Old 04-16-2007, 11:06 PM   #15
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Who else would be around to make a thread like this? Hmm?
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:10 PM   #16
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Well considering that I hadn't seen one made yet, I'd say someone who hasn't arrived yet, or has simply not yet produced the proper motivation.


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Old 04-16-2007, 11:18 PM   #17
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No, I wouldn't kill you because
a. I'd lose my license to practice if I committed a felony
b. I would look like The Great Pumpkin in those flourescent orange jumpsuits and that would be ridiculous
c. My kids would be given swirlies at school once other kids found out I was singing Jailhouse Rock in the jailhouse, and
c. Cause I like you, and I just am not in the habit of killing people I like.


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Old 04-16-2007, 11:19 PM   #18
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Everyone is certainly capable of murder-- that's given by your premise. But of course just because you're capable of something doesn't mean you necessarily act upon it. Every action has consequences. The consequences of murder are huge. You would be dead. Everyone who knows you would be affected. I would be a murderer -- a tilte I would wear for the rest of my life and I would either get life sentence in prison or the death penalty. Or even if I didn't get caught, I would know forever that I had crossed a line and could never go back. My actions could never be fully repaid. Everything has been lost and nothing has been gained. To ask whether I would willingly shoulder all these consequences without providing any motivation in return... well the answer "no" will just have to suffice.
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:24 PM   #19
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You wouldn't be subject to any laws, absolutely no one else would know about it.
In this situation, I would already be on a tight schedule for death, and would even offer forgiveness if it was desired.


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Old 04-16-2007, 11:43 PM   #20
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Are you still incapable of feeling any pain, being missed by loved ones, and your or anyone else suffering any negative effects from this?

I'd still say no. Even if you or no one else suffers for it, I'd still be violating my own morals.


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Old 04-16-2007, 11:54 PM   #21
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Missed, no. External negative effetcs, no. Any pain would only lie in the method of dispatch. It could be painless or quite excruciating, depending on your motivations. You may use any method you like.


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Old 04-17-2007, 12:27 PM   #22
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No, I wouldn't kill you. I don't even kill rapists. And quite frankly, this thread scares me.

If you're contemplating suicide in some form or another, I strongly advise you to seek help in the form of a psychologist or even a phone service. I don't know where you live, but there is bound to be some free line you can call. Your local Red Cross will probably maintain one, and there may be a Christian one, too or something.

Grief is a pretty terrible thing, which is why I'm so incredibly strongly opposed to suicide and euthanasia. Not to mention you only live once, and that most or all hardships pass with time.

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Old 04-17-2007, 12:46 PM   #23
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I'm just curious, would someone mind killing me for a little while?
I can never get very far with my research in the chatbox before people get all creeped out.
Gee. You think?

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Would you kill me?
No.

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subquestion(b) Why wouldn't you?
1. It's against the law. If I kill you, and I get caught, the law will kill me. (Assumption: I wanna live.)
2. Society has brainwashed me to believe that killing people without reason is wrong. (Assumption: I have no reason to kill you.)
3. I waste energy killing you that I could use...well...doing something much more productive. Like watching TV.


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Old 04-17-2007, 12:56 PM   #24
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subquestion(a) why would you?
That, friend, is possibly the best question I've heard all year.

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Old 04-17-2007, 01:28 PM   #25
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Well RJM, if you were standing in front of me actually asking me to kill you, I'd pull out my cell phone and call 911 to get you into help.

People are getting creeped out because they think you're really wanting to die--you might want to clarify that for all the rest of us readers.

Killing is a fundamental violation of someone's right to live, and it's not my prerogative to take someone else's life. It's an ultimately selfish act--the killer is in essence saying 'your very presence in life offends me'. There are far better ways of handling that situation.


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Old 04-17-2007, 03:32 PM   #26
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I don't want to kill you! You make me laugh!
Ok, now really:

Would you kill me? Depends.
subquestion(a) why would you? If you where threatening me with a fire arm or a knife or so, i would try to survive, even if it meant to kill you.
subquestion(b) Why wouldn't you? Because it is wrong.
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:01 PM   #27
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Simple question.

Would you kill me? No.
subquestion(a) why would you?
subquestion(b) Why wouldn't you?
I thought of this quote yesterday while listening to the news of what happen at Virginia Tech. It was said by Clint Eastwood’s William Munny in the 1992 movie “Unforgiven.”

“It's a hell of a thing, killin' a man. Take away all he's got, and all he's ever gonna have.”

I don’t know if I’d ever be able to kill someone for any reason. What the point of living if you can’t live with your actions afterward. If it was to protect some I love, then I’d like to believe I could, but no one knows for sure until they’re put in that position.


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I'm going to have to go with what others said and tell you to go find some help. I mean it, if you're going about forums asking the people there if they'd kill you then you need to see a doctor, seek some professional help now.
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Next time, specify that you're not suicidal, and talk a little more about why you're researching this subject. It'd help a lot.

To properly answer your question: If you asked me to kill you, it'd heavily depend on scenario. It wouldn't be my job anyway - maybe if I was a doctor I might give you euthanasia if you were mortally ill and in great pain, but other than that, no.

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Would you kill me?
Yes.
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subquestion(a) why would you?
Because I feel like saying something different than everyone else here.


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Old 04-17-2007, 08:59 PM   #31
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To be honest why would I want to kill anyone? Besides denying someone the right to life, I would have to have a good reason to like if I were in the middle of armed combat or something. As I said before RJM, I wouldn't kill you because you gave me no reason to. Certainly I have the potential to but to me there is no logical and justifiable reason why I should.

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Old 04-17-2007, 11:33 PM   #32
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And quite frankly, this thread scares me.
Why nothing scary is happening to you?
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That, friend, is possibly the best question I've heard all year.
And yet I wonder if that is your best answer?
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To properly answer your question: If you asked me to kill you, it'd heavily depend on scenario. It wouldn't be my job anyway - maybe if I was a doctor I might give you euthanasia if you were mortally ill and in great pain, but other than that, no.
Why not in any other scenario?

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1. It's against the law. If I kill you, and I get caught, the law will kill me. (Assumption: I wanna live.)
2. Society has brainwashed me to believe that killing people without reason is wrong. (Assumption: I have no reason to kill you.)
3. I waste energy killing you that I could use...well...doing something much more productive. Like watching TV.
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What is society? Your mind is your own.
Assume that in this instance, you have nothing better to do...
Soon, I will simply cease to exist, until then you have no distractions except the choice. Assume also that you could end my life without effort.

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People are getting creeped out because they think you're really wanting to die--you might want to clarify that for all the rest of us readers.
It matters not. If I am suicidal and wanted help I would've asked for it. Therefore you can assume that I am of clear mind and am not taking my own life out of grief or any such reason. Other than that, there is no assurance.
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Killing is a fundamental violation of someone's right to live, and it's not my prerogative to take someone else's life. It's an ultimately selfish act--the killer is in essence saying 'your very presence in life offends me'. There are far better ways of handling that situation.
I am freely giving you the choice. You may do whatever you wish.

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Would you kill me? Depends.
subquestion(a) why would you? If you where threatening me with a fire arm or a knife or so, i would try to survive, even if it meant to kill you.
subquestion(b) Why wouldn't you? Because it is wrong.
No such attempts or any actions against you or anyone else.
Wrong is a broad word, why?

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“It's a hell of a thing, killin' a man. Take away all he's got, and all he's ever gonna have.”

I don’t know if I’d ever be able to kill someone for any reason. What the point of living if you can’t live with your actions afterward. If it was to protect some I love, then I’d like to believe I could, but no one knows for sure until they’re put in that position.
In this situation I have nothing to take away, I will end wether you act or not.
Complete forgiveness is optional.

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Because I feel like saying something different than everyone else here.
You would end my life for the sole reason of being unique?

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To be honest why would I want to kill anyone? Besides denying someone the right to life, I would have to have a good reason to like if I were in the middle of armed combat or something. As I said before RJM, I wouldn't kill you because you gave me no reason to. Certainly I have the potential to but to me there is no logical and justifiable reason why I should.
I haven't given you a reason not to.


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I'm rather disappointed the one person who said 'yes' didn't get any love in your reply, RJM.
Edit: I see I'm not the only one who used the edit button in this thread.

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You would end my life for the sole reason of being unique?
I'd and did say that to keep my intent to find out how you would react to someone saying 'yes' a secret. It didn't work.


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I know what you mean. Of course, having a keyboard with a broken spacebar doesn't help me, either.
P.S. Look up.


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Your grammar is barely readable there. But it's not my reaction that matters if that's what you mean, only yours.


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My reaction was to not think about it because it's a morbid and impossible situation, so I decided to see how you would react to someone saying 'yes'.


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There is nothing impossible. In fact possibility is the only thing possible.
You will take one of two actions...
You will kill me
You will not kill me
You will do one or the other and therefore it is not impossible.


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Old 04-18-2007, 12:59 AM   #39
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What is society? Your mind is your own.
Assume that in this instance, you have nothing better to do...
Soon, I will simply cease to exist, until then you have no distractions except the choice. Assume also that you could end my life without effort.
No punishment? No society and nobody to tell me what to do? And I got nothing BETTER for me to do?

Then it wouldn't be murder at all. You just stripped of all the cool and uncool parts that make murder what it is, that we defined it as. You turned such a horrible act of stabbing and murdering a person into...well...something so dehumanized, so useless that...well...er....

It's like putting a dog to sleep, basically. You inject him with the medication and he dies. No romanticism, no funerals, no arrests, nothing. Just 'population control'. If a person can easily be dispatched in this manner, as you put yourself to me, you have turned yourself into a dog who is ready to put himself to sleep.

And I am of the same species as you. I am too a dog.

Remember that soon, I will simply cease to exist, and this only distraction is this choice? But distractions is what makes life bearable, somewhat. Elimante the distractions, and we elimnate all purpose of living.

I....wouldn't do it. I just can't. Any secret thrill that a man could get for a murder of an innocent person has been destroyed, so in essence, the destruction of the act of 'destruction' would be so terrible. Why should I kill, when you have destroyed the definition of 'killing'?

Instead, I would ask you to go and end my life.


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I never said murder, I gave you the choice willingly remember? If you consider it murder that is your choice.
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Then it wouldn't be murder at all. You just stripped of all the cool and uncool parts that make murder what it is, that we defined it as. You turned such a horrible act of stabbing and murdering a person into...well...something so dehumanized, so useless that...well...er....

It's like putting a dog to sleep, basically. You inject him with the medication and he dies. No romanticism, no funerals, no arrests, nothing. Just 'population control'. If a person can easily be dispatched in this manner, as you put yourself to me, you have turned yourself into a dog who is ready to put himself to sleep.
How does that affect your decision?

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And I am of the same species as you. I am too a dog.
An interesting choice of words which opens another door of questions. Unfortunately it is a little to tangental for the moment. Remind me to come back to this...

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Remember that soon, I will simply cease to exist, and this only distraction is this choice? But distractions is what makes life bearable, somewhat. Elimante the distractions, and we elimnate all purpose of living.
Maybe we miscommunicated. It would not be long before I would cease to exist, a few minutes, a day maybe, not long. I am not saying you would lose distractions, only that until such time as I meet my unavoidable end you may focus on this choice without external interference. I wouldn't want to take up all your precious time

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I....wouldn't do it. I just can't. Any secret thrill that a man could get for a murder of an innocent person has been destroyed, so in essence, the destruction of the act of 'destruction' would be so terrible. Why should I kill, when you have destroyed the definition of 'killing'?
I'm confused, "thrill" is a requirement to perform the act? What is the definition of killing that I have destroyed?

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Instead, I would ask you to go and end my life.
A very interesting choice? In this scenario, I am incapable of taking any action against you, as per the "no repurcussions" agreement. Why would you come to that conclusion when, after I die of my impendeding cause or your own choice, you will be returned to your normal everyday life. Any reason you have given for not killing me would be a reason for you to live. You could simply not act, wait several minutes until I die naturally and then resume your life.


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