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Old 04-18-2007, 02:33 AM   #1
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What a nice wife...

How thoughtful of this wife. Her husband can't seem to find the floppy that's important to him, and she finds it for him and puts it where he'll see it!

the note is translated on the bottom of the pic.


somebody won't be copying that floppy.


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Old 04-18-2007, 03:45 AM   #2
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Old 04-18-2007, 04:16 AM   #3
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It's the thought that counts I guess.
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Old 04-18-2007, 04:56 AM   #4
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You would be surprised just how immune to magnets they are, I tried to erase the data on one with a magnet and failed miserably until I opened it up and put the magnet directly onto the surface of the disk itself.






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Old 04-18-2007, 05:18 AM   #5
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The first thing the husband said must have been "oh well..."

But jon makes a point. When I was young, I stuck a magnet over the diskette (not too strong though), but turns out the disk still worked fine
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Old 04-18-2007, 05:35 AM   #6
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Magnet must have been pretty strong to hold through the floppy and the paper. *shrugs*

Who uses those things anymore anyways?
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Old 04-18-2007, 05:41 AM   #7
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I don't, My computer doesn't even have the drive for them. If I did I would recreate this for you with a 1.44Mb .bmp file on the disk with the image saying "Myth Busted".

Anyone else want to give it a go? All you need is a floppy disk you don't want, a fridge, a magnet and a camera*.

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Old 04-18-2007, 06:07 AM   #8
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Ya'll know that you actually need a changing magnetic (read: a moving magnet over the disk) field to have an effect to that disk, right? That one ain't changing, because the magnet isn't moving. That should have been only the case while she'd put it to the fridge, and if she did not do it too fast, and a couple of times, than there is nothing about it. :P


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Old 04-18-2007, 06:47 AM   #9
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Ya'll know that you actually need a changing magnetic (read: a moving magnet over the disk) field to have an effect to that disk, right? That one ain't changing, because the magnet isn't moving. That should have been only the case while she'd put it to the fridge, and if she did not do it too fast, and a couple of times, than there is nothing about it. :P
I thought about that too. If the magnet simply stayed in one spot, it wouldn't actually shift anything enough to break the disk.


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If I did I would recreate this for you with a 1.44Mb .bmp file on the disk with the image saying "Myth Busted".

Anyone else want to give it a go?
I might take you up on that when I get time. Sounds fun.
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:09 AM   #10
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I might take you up on that when I get time. Sounds fun.
If, after setting it up as per the picture, you find the image is uncorrupted what you will have do, in true Mythbusters style, is see just how far you have to go to corrupt the file with magnets.






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Old 04-18-2007, 08:49 AM   #11
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Yeah, and if that somehow changes when you head towards one of the Poles.

Optional Greeks too, if you want. XDDD


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Old 04-18-2007, 09:15 AM   #12
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And of course, also in true Mythbusters style, If it doesn't work, blowing it up/setting it on fire would destroy the data. And if not, it would still be cool has hell


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Old 04-18-2007, 11:21 AM   #13
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The first thing the husband said must have been "oh well..."
More like a shooting spree.


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Old 04-18-2007, 06:28 PM   #14
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Magnet must have been pretty strong to hold through the floppy and the paper. *shrugs*

Who uses those things anymore anyways?

hey i still use floppys you never know when they will come in handy, sure i have 2 flash drives but what happens when the computer dosent have a flash drive? my friend just recently had to use one cause his computer dosent have a usb drive


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Old 04-18-2007, 06:56 PM   #15
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...cause his computer doesn't have a usb drive.

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Old 04-18-2007, 07:09 PM   #16
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sorry that some people dont have all the money in the world and can afford computers left and right


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Old 04-18-2007, 07:34 PM   #17
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I'm a poorly college student that lives on a couch in a garage. I meant nothing of financial means.

I merely meant that usb ports have been a fairly standard feature for ten plus years now and that most would be hard pressed to find a pc that had none, except perhaps if you ventured to the moon and they had a different system setup entirely. A moon system if you will. I'd call the ports MOON ports and they would be solar powered. Now, you see, there's a very intricate method to my madness.
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:20 PM   #18
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I have completed my experiments...

I took a regular 3½-inch floppy disk, and put this picture on it:



Then, I took a regular refrigerator magnet just strong enough to hold the floppy onto the fridge and left it on for awhile (with post-it note for authenticity). Note that most of the refrigerator magnets I have weren't strong enough to hold the floppy up. I put the floppy into the computer, and the picture came up, exactly how it should be. The floppy disk still worked. So what will kill the floppy?

Now I took a strong magnet (strong enough to lift a hammer) and used that to pin the floppy and post-it to the fridge (pictured below).



Then, I took the magnet off, stuck it back into the computer. The picture came up, intact, no errors.

So then I remembered the point Ray Jones brought up, that the magnetic field needs to be changing in order to shift anything around and screw up the disk. So, I took the strong magnet and vigorously shifted it over the surface of the floppy. I stuck it back into the computer, and told it to load the disk... It took quite awhile to actually do anything, and it finally gave me a "this disk is not yet formatted, would you like to format it now?" message. I clicked "no." Then, I took it out, put it back in and tried loading it again. This time the floppy wouldn't do anything it all, it just sat there loading, and eventually crashed the window.

When I originally pinned the floppy onto the refrigerator, the magnets did shift over the disk a little bit, but it didn't have any effect. It took vigorous shifting of the magnet over the surface of the disk to really kill it. Unless the wife sat there and moved the magnet around for some reason, I think he would've been able to recover whatever it was on the disk. Final verdict? Busted.

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Old 04-18-2007, 10:34 PM   #19
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You should still blow it up. To capture the true essense of the Mythbusters XP


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Old 04-18-2007, 10:34 PM   #20
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:45 PM   #21
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Bravo for a job well done, IG-64!
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:13 PM   #22
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yeah put a little plastic on that mother****er just to be sure that data is nonrecoverable.


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Old 04-19-2007, 02:56 AM   #23
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Coolness.

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Now, you see, there's a very intricate method to my madness.
Yeah, plus killer-elves and baskets full of err something.


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Old 04-19-2007, 05:43 AM   #24
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I have completed my experiments...

Final verdict? Busted.
Brilliant job! Just out of interest does formatting the disk fix it or is it truly farked?






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Brilliant job! Just out of interest does formatting the disk fix it or is it truly farked?
I tried reloading the disk so that I could make the formatting thing come up again and test that. However, it simply crashed the window every time after that first time. I seriously doubt it would fix it anyways, so yeah, the disk is probably farked.

I would test that if I were to do it again. I would also see just how much shifting of the magnet is required to actually kill the disk, and how much shifting of a smaller magnet is required as well.
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:37 AM   #26
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Wow you learn something new everyday. Thank you for that undertaking IG-64 and congratulations to Ray Jones for making the successful prediction.


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Old 04-19-2007, 05:57 PM   #27
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The writing looks like my German teachers writing. I may be mistaken, but looks like German writing there.


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Old 04-19-2007, 08:02 PM   #28
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Question: How would the disk work if you moved the magnet in a circle along the "tracks", for the lack of a better word?
(The already damaged disk I mean, not a working one )




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