TFU for PC?

[Negative Sun]

Originally Posted by Ztalker

The 8 yeard old Sly the Racoon gamers who haven't upgraded yet? The six-year olds who got the PS2 console last Christmas from their parents?

The hard-working people who are still satisfied with a PS2 and don't want to fork out for a stupid 360 and can't afford a PS3 yet...
I got a PS2 last Xmas for my fiancee because it's by far still the best console out there (except for the Wii maybe), with the best selection of games (DMC, MGS2, Onimusha, Guitar Hero, etc...)

The PS2 graphics are still being pushed to the limit to this day, and it still amazes me what developers manage to squeeze out of this "outdated" machine...

[Ztalker]

I'm not trying to insult anyone, I don't even own a next-gen console, nor the Playstation2, or a 'uber pwnage' next gen computer. Just a mere Gamecube and a...'medium' computer.

It's just a mere observation of my part. Of course the Playstation has huge fanbase (110 million sold consoles worldwide?), but that doesn't justify releasing TFU for it.

My point is that the die hard gamers already bought an X-360 for Halo 3, Gears of War, Project Gotham, hell let's throw in the new GTA. And face it: TFU isn't made for the casual gamers. It's not like you can kill all thos Stormtroopers by buttonbashing or sweeping with the Wii-mote.

Again, no offense to the PS2; it's a very good console and has been out there for almost ten years. Of course it has had 'next-gen content' like God of War recently. I can understand why a PS2 would be a better buy then a PS3 or a X-Box 360, just because of the massive amount of games and third party support, just like you said. But the fact remains: TFU is 'created' for the PS3 and X-Box 360. Those are the consoles with the third-party support right now and will still have it in the future. EA all the way.

I just don't think it's justified to release it on the PS2. You wouldn't hear me complain if it was released for the original X-Box, Gamecube or Wii. With it; it's the same group of people who haven't upgraded, or, like you said and like myself, are satisfied with their current console.

But to me, as a Nintendo gamer and owner of a 'standard' computer, there is no way I can play this game, whilst the owners of an in power similar console (PS2-Gamecube-Computer?) like yourself get all the benefit.

So, again I ask: What goal is there to release the game for the PS2? I sincerely believe that most of the 110 million PS2 owners will have a PC that's stronger then that console, or have bought a new console already.

[Char Ell]

Originally Posted by Ztalker

So, again I ask: What goal is there to release the game for the PS2? I sincerely believe that most of the 110 million PS2 owners will have a PC that's stronger then that console, or have bought a new console already.

I haven't bothered researching the actual console total unit sales figures but if there are 110 million PS2's out there then those are 110 million reasons why LucasArts should support the PS2. IIRC the PS2 was the clear winner in the previous generation of consoles with by far the largest installed base.

Of course I really wonder how TFU on PS2 will compare in features to TFU on PS3 and Xbox 360. If DMM and euphoria really needed the processing power available in the new consoles before they could become reality then I don't see how PS2 will be able to support LucasArts' highly touted game technologies. IMO it's likely PS2 owners will get an experience either without these features or with watered down versions of DMM and euphoria.

[Shadow Talon]

So you are saying owners of a next gen consoles will have trash just to make them buy a PC so they can enjoy completely TFU on it (if they release one for PC)?
That is evil.

[Lantzen]

So, what do you think. It aint announced for PC, but to you think it will be ? Il think it will be sooner or later, alot of the greater game to console get to PC, some maybe a year later, other many years later. What do you think of Unleashed ?

[Jeff]

I honestly do not think it will be announced for PC. The reason they gave is because not enough PCs would be able to handle the specs. I think by the time enough PCs will be able to, LucasArts would have been moved on to other games.

[stoffe]

Originally Posted by Darth Moeller

I honestly do not think it will be announced for PC. The reason they gave is because not enough PCs would be able to handle the specs. I think by the time enough PCs will be able to, LucasArts would have been moved on to other games.

You'd think they could market it to the hardcore FPS crowd at least. The people who buy computers to be able to play Crysis or similar games should have good enough computers to handle Force Unleashed as well, unless it's very poorly optimized?

Apparently they are numerous enough to make it profitable to make those games, and since Force Unleashed is an action game and not an RPG they might be interested in it.

In my entirely uninformed opinion it sounds like nothing but a poor excuse. Especially with the Playstation 2 version, which would be equivalent of 2002 PC hardware, or Wii version, which I doubt would be more powerful than your average gaming PC.

[Jae Onasi]

merged the thread "Force Unleashed to PC" with this thread since both are about the same thing.

[Lantzen]

Il really think the DirectX10 cards could handle the game, well not evry person have one but in a few years most gamers probaly have it, they will need to have it to follow up with the PC market.

And if it's a good game and it sales good to consoles, i really don't think Lucasarts just will move on. If they can profit from it, then they probaly convert it to PC.


Just look at some other games, Halo2 that is pretty aged at this time, but still it sales to the PC. Jade Empire also had pretty good sales to the PC market when it arrived.


And thanks Jae, didn't see this thread ^^

[Jeff]

I'm guessing that the Xbox360/PS3 version was the one they were talking about not being able to run on most PCs but I do agree with you, it is a lame excuse. Although I don't think they will I'd love to see it come out for PC in the future.

[Commander Obi-Wan]

Well, assuming that the recent news regarding a Wii version is true, I think there is a chance, a slim one, that The Force Unleashed will be released on PC. I wouldn't bet on it, but because if the recent news, I would let go of hoping for a PC version yet.

[slornie]

Hmm, im surprised there is no official information confirming or denying a PC version, on the other hand, on several online stores i have seen a PC version listed..

[Miltiades]

Originally Posted by slornie

Hmm, im surprised there is no official information confirming or denying a PC version, on the other hand, on several online stores i have seen a PC version listed..

Me too... but that doesn't mean anything, of course. But the fact they don't want to confirm or deny a PC version's curious. They must be still deciding if they're going to make a PC version or not. Maybe they're waiting how successful the game will be on the consoles, before taking their chance on the PC.

[PoiuyWired]

Maybe they hope that by not announcing the existance of a PC version, the sales of the two regular versions would be up, namely the 360 version, and that $ony paperweight.

[Shadow Talon]

Meaning that by saying it wont get out for PC, people who got flamed because of the game wont risk it and they will buy a console just to play ''The Next Best Thing'' after Jedi Academy that includes lightsaber fights. But I have hope.

Gears of War was published just for 360 and its now under production for PC with even longer story and improved graphics. So I will say that I will remain optimistic about TFU for PC.

History will see who is right

[jaybroni]

For those wishing for a PC version, there is a current petition with over 12,000 signatures so far.

http://www.petitiononline.com/g5d4iu5f/petition.html

Also for more in-depth discussion, check out the No PC thread at the lucasarts forum. Its at 93 pages with over 1300 posts and growing:

http://forums.lucasarts.com/thread.j...120668&start=0

[PoiuyWired]

Well, we know that by the time it is released there are probably still more PC capable of handling the game in a reasonable level than PS3 owneders out there.

[Miltiades]

Petitions don't help in 99% of the cases. If it suits LA, they'll make a PC version. No petition will influence their decision, IMO.

[Jeff]

Right, but fans still want their voices heard even if it won't help their cause. I don't think actually influencing a decision is the point of most online petitions because when have they ever changed anything.

[Miltiades]

Meh. I think many people who make or sign these petitions actually think they're going to make a difference. Some real action is needed: I vaguely remember CoD2 players massively abandoning the game because multiplayer was hell or something. I thought that was really cool.

Edit: Okay, PC gamers, I hate to show this to you, but check this. I guess the question is answered then: No TFU for PC.

[Serpentine Cougar]

Originally Posted by Miltiades

Edit: Okay, PC gamers, I hate to show this to you, but check this. I guess the question is answered then: No TFU for PC.

That doesn't mean they won't change their minds later, though does it?

It would be nice if they would say why they're not going to release a PC version....

Also, there is one instance where a petition actually brought results.

[Char Ell]

Originally Posted by Serpentine

That doesn't mean they won't change their minds later, though does it?

I don't recall LucasArts ever going back and releasing a game on a platform for which they originally decided not to release it for. Thus I recommend you don't hold your breath for SW: TFU to be released for PC.

Originally Posted by Serpentine

It would be nice if they would say why they're not going to release a PC version..

The following is reposted from post #55 in this thread.

While The Force Unleashed will be coming to higher-end consoles like the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, there will be no Wii or PC versions for the time being. "At this time, we are not planning a PC release," said Blackman. He said that current PC hardware constraints would prevent the game from reaching a broad audience and added, "The minimum spec for a PC version right now is just too high."

Source: TGDaily

IMHO a rather lame excuse from SW:TFU's project lead when one considers the fact that the game is being released on Nintendo Wii, Playstation 2, Nintendo DS and N-Gage. The reasoning would hold more water with me if they were only going to release the game for Playstation 3 and Xbox 360. But of course that isn't the case and you didn't ask for a good reason...

[RobQel-Droma]

Well, I understand the problem. But, like you said, Char Ell, I don't know *why* there would be this problem... Seems to me they could release it for PC if they really wanted to, considering some other PC titles that are quite the strain on mine....

Of course, they could always *cough* release it on a, er, mac.

[Miltiades]

A mystery to me too why they decided against a PC version.

Originally Posted by Serpentine

Also, there is one instance where a petition actually brought results.

I think they already wanted a limited edition, the people persuaded them to actually do one.

[Monkey Mania]

Petitions did not bring back Sam And Max 2 nor Full Throttle 2.

[TKA-001]

Good point.

[Ztalker]

Well, the thread's back up, time to respond:

Shadow Talon wrote:
So you are saying owners of a next gen consoles will have trash just to make them buy a PC so they can enjoy completely TFU on it (if they release one for PC)?
That is evil.

Nope. Just saying that, if the game can do it's thing on a 360 and a PS2, why not an a PC?

I haven't bothered researching the actual console total unit sales figures but if there are 110 million PS2's out there then those are 110 million reasons why LucasArts should support the PS2. IIRC the PS2 was the clear winner in the previous generation of consoles with by far the largest installed base.

Yes, okay. But don't you think it's a slap in the face of all PC owners? The people with an 'medium' PC see the PS2 can play the game and feel betrayed. People with an High-end PC who see the game is released for the 360 and PS3 will have the same feeling. And that's my whole point

[Prime]

Originally Posted by Monkey Mania

Petitions did not bring back Sam And Max 2 nor Full Throttle 2.

Because they can reach 85+% of their target audience by developing it solely for consoles, without the very alrge headache of trying to support many PC configurations. It doesn't make much business sense to put in so much effort for such a small profit gain...

[Char Ell]

Originally Posted by Ztalker

Yes, okay. But don't you think it's a slap in the face of all PC owners? The people with an 'medium' PC see the PS2 can play the game and feel betrayed. People with an High-end PC who see the game is released for the 360 and PS3 will have the same feeling. And that's my whole point

1) I didn't realize you were responding to me
2) I wrote that 4 months before you posted a response. What took you so long?

Sure, I think PC gamers have gotten the short end of the stick with LucasArts' decision to develop TFU for almost every platform under the sun but PC. I believe I've already expressed in this thread that I'm very disappointed in their decision. What can I do about it though? Not much. I've considered sending a postal letter to LucasArts to express my displeasure but I really don't think it will do anything. This is just a matter of LucasArts going with what they believe are the most profitable options available. With Jim Ward at the helm, LucasArts believes that consoles and handhelds are the way forward and I can't really argue with that decision based on the sales numbers I've seen. So I expect they won't release much in the way of PC games for at least the next couple of years, excepting any new SW MMORPG they may release. But since I'm a PC gamer and don't see much point in buying a console after investing some serious money in my PC then I think the most effective course of action I can take is to continue to buy PC games that interest me from publishers that support the PC platform. If LucasArts isn't among those publishers then unfortunately that is just the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.

[PoiuyWired]

Actually I would see them releasing a pc port like they do with those Lego games. Ports that does not really utilize the strengths of the PC but merely a simple "move that xbox game to PC" approach to squeeze more money out of the project with minimal effort. Probably would only happen once the consoles are out for a while though, like half a year or so. Lets just hope that they do a xbox port and not pull an "emulator of ps2" approach, and as we know it they are releasing the game on ps2 despite saying the game being "next gen only" and anyone who thinks ps2 is still "next gen" nowadays should have his balls violently ripped off with a spoon and force fed back with tabasco and a hit of poprock powder.

Remember, many many so-called game reprints are just old console games emulated from older console rather than real ports. Lets hop this does not happen here for TFU.

I mean, it would be much easier and cheaper to do that with minimal extra budget and what not... much cheaper than the money they have wasted on the toaster wannabe known as ps3, where many game publishers start to shy away.

[Alegis]

Originally Posted by Prime

Because they can reach 85+% of their target audience by developing it solely for consoles, without the very alrge headache of trying to support many PC configurations. It doesn't make much business sense to put in so much effort for such a small profit gain...

You almost sound like one of those 'PC Gaming is dead!' preachers, pulling those numbers from your behind (yes, even with the consoles combined it is ludicrous) and calling it a waste of money. For example, it is in fact more troublesome to develop for the PS3 architecture (quotes aplenty), with a smaller proven Star Wars fanbase and disappointing software sales (links aplenty, see EA statements for example). Wouldn't make much sense business wise, right?
Not really. And there most definitely is the target audience on the PC unlike other console franchises would be ignored. The 'we can't do it because of the graphical requirements' nonsense has already been handled by others in this thread so I don't have to.


They're being lazy, that's all there is to it. Or merely postponing PC release, hoping to rack in more console sales.

[Miltiades]

The fact is companies miss out a lot of cash when doing PC games due to the illegal downloads. On the other hand, they'd still make a lot of profit, PC Gaming isn't dead. And you make a good argument: PS3 sales aren't what people (or at least Sony) expected it to be. Why them and not the PC?

[Ctrl Alt Del]

Originally Posted by Miltiades

The fact is companies miss out a lot of cash when doing PC games due to the illegal downloads.

There's still illegal downloads on the PC for console games. Those vaunted ISOs...

[PoiuyWired]

Not for PS3 games, cause we really don't care much about them.

[Ctrl Alt Del]

Originally Posted by PoiuyWired

Not for PS3 games, cause we really don't care much about them.

Agreed.

That is until MGS4/FFXIII comes...

[TKA-001]

Unknown acronyms abound.

[PoiuyWired]

Originally Posted by Ctrl_Alt_Del

Agreed.

That is until MGS4/FFXIII comes...

Well, confirmed for MGS4 360 version. I think there is a go on FF13 also.
Well, PS3 does have that FF game that is a poor rip on Soul Calibur style fighting game. And for those who is unfortunate enough to remember, Square created such failure before... with a different name. Though I would hope that this time it would be playable, just so that I might say "Aeris Lives"

[Ctrl Alt Del]

Originally Posted by TKA-001

Unknown acronyms abound.

MGS4: Metal Gear Solid 4.

FFXIII: Final Fantasy XIII.

Originally Posted by PoiuyWired

Well, confirmed for MGS4 360 version. I think there is a go on FF13 also.

Wat? MGS4 is NOT coming to the 360. So is FFXIII and FFXIII:Versus are exclusive for the Sony black-box so far.

Originally Posted by PoiuyWired

Well, PS3 does have that FF game that is a poor rip on Soul Calibur style fighting game. And for those who is unfortunate enough to remember, Square created such failure before... with a different name. Though I would hope that this time it would be playable, just so that I might say "Aeris Lives"

What would that be? I really don't remember...

[Zagadka]

1) My computer can kick any consoles' ass without thinking twice about it. It isn't a hardware issue - it is a hardware *compatibility* issue. If you've noticed, LA isn't very big on patching products along. Also, there is the decision to go to DX10 (which would really make consoles worthless).

2) There is an incredibly sad hit to the wonderful modding and editing communities.

Going to console-only makes a vanilla one/two-play-through game.

I'm going to be pissed if 360 prices don't reach a justification height by the time TFU ships.

/wonders what the "FU" could also stand for

[PoiuyWired]

Maybe they should make a Special Edition for PC. Maybe call it "Super The Force Unleashed" aka "S.T.F.U."

Who knows, it could happen.