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View Poll Results: What will be the way our world ends?
War/terrorism (including nuclear war) 4 16.67%
Natural disasters (floods, earthquakes, etc.) 5 20.83%
Disease pandemic (a la Stephen King's "The Stand") 0 0%
Shortage of essential resources (food, water, etc.) 2 8.33%
The Sun goes supernova and burns up the solar system 11 45.83%
Death by Aliens 2 8.33%
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:25 PM   #1
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Look Out! It's the Apocalypse!

How will the world, as we know it, come to an end?
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:51 PM   #2
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I choose the final option because it most closely represents the predicted model. All life on this planet would most likely be dead and gone (the conditions necessary to support life having dissipated) long before the sun's final throes.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:52 PM   #3
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You didn't include every possible way. Bujt i voted on natural disasters. if you look att the international earthquake moniter, you can see that a lot of earthquakes are happening far off of the coast of california, in whatever oean is their- if porgot whether it was pacific or atlantic. These earthquakes appear to be signs of a much bigger one- one that coudl result in the earth's crust breakign liek an egg.
War will never destroy our world- it is more controlled than yuo may realize. Most goverments avoid using superweapons as much as they can now, partly because of the Internatioanl Treaty.
The other things- highly unlikely to happen anytime soon, especially the sun goign supernova. If anything, i'm a Christian- and i have certain beiefs that may not be fulyl scientific- but in the Book of revelation in the bible- in mentions a great earthquake will happen in the end tiems, and earth will be destoyed by fire, and then a new heaven and a new earth will come after that. but that is my belief- i don't care how scientifically unsound it is, so don't yell at me about it, and let's not turn thi sinto a conversation over religion.
The destyoed by fire thing in bible could caused by that of an enormous solar flare.
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:05 PM   #4
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Final option, FTW.


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Old 08-14-2007, 10:21 PM   #5
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If you are asking about the planets existence, I voted for the Sun going supernova. If it more about man existence Al Gore already said it will be man made disaster global warming.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:04 PM   #6
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Csn i recast my vote for supernova somehow?

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Old 08-15-2007, 01:16 AM   #7
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Defining the world as the planet, I'd agree that the last option is the most likely. Had you said civilization, then perhaps #s 1 or 3.


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If you are asking about the planets existence, I voted for the Sun going supernova. If it more about man existence Al Gore already said it will be man made disaster global warming.
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:17 AM   #9
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Technically, the sun will never go supernova. It's not massive enough. It will most likely expand into a red giant and then contract into a dwarf star (red or white; I forget which) after it has expended most of it's hydrogen. It will, however, end all life on Earth when it does, so I guess that's close enough.


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Old 08-15-2007, 03:23 AM   #10
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:55 AM   #11
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^^^Thank you.

I voted supernova/(red giant) for the end of the Earth. Otherwise I agree with Death's Head that the most likely causes of Civilization's demise would be 1 or 3 or both (as war tends to breed pandemics).


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Old 08-15-2007, 10:56 AM   #12
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What I've often found curious is how the word apocalypse came to mean the end of the world when it's Greek origins mean to uncover or reveal. I guess it has something to do with the Book of Revelation in the Bible's New Testament.

As to the question of how the world will end, if that means the world of mankind then I think it will be a combination of war and disease, exacerbated by a lack of essential resources. I don't think life as we know it will last until our sun burns out.


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Old 08-15-2007, 11:07 AM   #13
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I picked the first option. Although there are going to be many wars to come, once the weapons technology becomes so advanced, that I think it could severely wound the human race. But it wont die completely, not until the sun goes nova, and that will be a while.


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Old 08-15-2007, 11:07 AM   #14
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Where's the death by aliens choice? I thought this was a Star Wars forum.


Fixed just for you, tk.

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Old 08-15-2007, 11:08 AM   #15
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I pick shortage of resources, because I'm out of water and have to wait some five hours for the water to start flowing though my tap again. Simply put, the population is gonna keep growing, resources will be sucked out and looking at the pace of progress, I don't think humanity can invent a "Turn-off" switch yet.

Nuclear assault is possible, but unlikely. Disease is unlikely too and I don't believe that my good friend Sun will go supernova anytime soon.

So it's lack of resources for me. C'mon goddamned water, c'mon!


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Old 08-15-2007, 11:16 AM   #16
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Earth can sustain itslef as long as humanity does not expand over earth to far. The trees and palnts create oxygen, grwo rpidly, and provide much sustainance. the animals multipy qute fast also, but must be keep under check so we don't wipe out a vital species. Global warming might actually be a good thing too- more water! I don't care about global warming- as i live in colorado! far, far, away from the oceans. lolz, but i'm not completely stupid, as i was joking about the global warming thing. as i said once before- the internatioanl treaty prevents use any weapon that can harm the world itself badly.

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Old 08-15-2007, 11:36 AM   #17
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How can you say that? Remember he is the inventor of the internet. He knows all our secrets. Al Gore can do anything (except beat Bush in an election, wait he even did that).
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:41 AM   #18
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The only option really making sense is the sun goes supernova or something, because THAT would actually end the existence of the solar system. The world won't "end" because of a flood or diseases.


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Old 08-15-2007, 12:22 PM   #19
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Please, define your question a bit better. What I dislike about threads such as this is that 'the end of the world' is very vague and varies in definition from person to person. Are you talking about the end of global civilization, the extinction of mankind, the destruction of the Earth, or the end of the universe?

If you mean the extinction of humanity, it could be any of the above. A catastrophic war, a pandemic, a horrific climate catastrophe far greater than what we're seeing now, the Sun failing us, an asteroid hitting Earth. It could be anything. It'll probably be a combination of them, though, for example if a climate crisis causes shortage of resources and horrific wars while it destroys us.

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No, anthropogenic global warming won't destroy us as a species. We'll fight it long before it does, we already are, in fact. And even if we didn't, it'd take it a long time to do so. But that's not to say AGW isn't real or dangerous, 'alarmism' aside.

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Old 08-15-2007, 12:29 PM   #20
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The best bet? The human race grows into an uber-powerful race that is immortal and all-mighty...

And then it just grows so bored that it kills itself. The End.


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Old 08-15-2007, 12:38 PM   #21
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OP failed to mention other possabilities, like demolitioned to make way for a transgalactic highway.
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:45 PM   #22
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Oh! Oh! Oh! Humanity evolves into another species! Yeah. The end.

Sounds plausible, now that you say so.

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Old 08-15-2007, 12:58 PM   #23
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Huanity could also juast go poof any second into a black hole that could come out of nowhere at any time...


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Old 08-15-2007, 01:44 PM   #24
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I also disliked the ambiguity of the question, but will attempt a two fold answer briefly.

1. The planet "Earth" will be here until some galactic event destroys it (collision, ). So for the actual planets end, I choose the ammended Achilles/Qliveur nova.

2. People call this planet "Earth" "the world" "terra firma" etc... names created by human minds. Without human minds, those words have no meaning, thus the end of "the world"... "the world" ends when we do, although a floating rock in space remains.

This will occur IMO due to natural disaster/calamity. Fire and brimstone stuff, although I don't believe any deity is causing it to occur
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Old 08-15-2007, 06:37 PM   #26
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Well, Assume that we don't kill ourselves off in the first place, we would eventually succeed in space travel, and start contaminating and infecting other planets.

I think the question above though, is about this planet, this piece of rock(and things). Then it would mostlikely be the sun going nova.

Obviously we cannot exclude the possability of destruction via out own species, or other alien species, once the human(or whatever we call it in the future as long as there are pointy ears) starts populating other stars.

I mean, there MUST be alien lifeforms out there, given the probability. Obviously meeting them would be a problem, not to mention meeting a species of space travelling ability. And if we find any primitive sentients... *sigh* rest be sure there would be some fun genocide going on, amongst other things.
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I actually don't choose any of the above because at one point some of those options will take place during a span of seven years. Yes I am referring to the actual apocalypse as written in the Book of Revelation. While I have a scientist's hard hat I have my religious one and I sincerely believe that it will happen.

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I actually don't choose any of the above because at one point some of those options will take place during a span of seven years. Yes I am referring to the actual apocalypse as written in the Book of Revelation. While I have a scientist's hard hat I have my religious one and I sincerely believe that it will happen.
Summary of Christian eschatological differences

Also, you're aware that every major mythology has a set of myths surround the end times, right? What makes the story that christianity sells any more plausible?
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:27 AM   #29
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Reminds me of the statement about how God will come like a thief in the night, so always be on your gaurd (ie live the right kind of life), for you know not the hour.


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Old 08-16-2007, 01:57 AM   #30
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I see your reply and up you a Marcus Brickstone.
Pretty funny guy! However, I have to wonder why you put a link to his rant on religion. Do you see me as a religious sort just because I don't believe that humans make a significant impact on global warming? Nothing could be further from the truth.

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Because I... gave you the wrong link. Here you go.

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Because I... gave you the wrong link. Here you go.
I took the liberty of listening to that after his rant on religion last night. Its not near as funny though. I guess that he is to you what George Carlin is to me.

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Summary of Christian eschatological differences

Also, you're aware that every major mythology has a set of myths surround the end times, right? What makes the story that christianity sells any more plausible?
I see you quoted wikipedia Achilles. I have no choice but to not trust it. I believe I have said a fair piece on the validity of wikipedia. Anyway all I am saying is that there are some things that science won't always predict. end ties I think is one of them. All goes to whether you have faith or not.

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I see you quoted wikipedia Achilles. I have no choice but to not trust it.
Hmmm...the article was well-cited when I looked.
Interesting that you won't assign any value to this because you percieve it as having questionable authorship, however you'll committ yourself completely to a text that was written more than 2,000 years ago by (mostly) anonymous authors that used now-dead languages and has been subjected to innumerable textual alterations throughout the years. Doesn't seem very intellectually honest to me.

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Anyway all I am saying is that there are some things that science won't always predict. end ties I think is one of them. All goes to whether you have faith or not.
If you'd like to offer your reasons for why you think the story outlined in the book of revelations is more credible than any of the other end time myths (feel free to include the scientific predictions regarding the death of our sun), I'd more than love to hear what you have to say.
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:31 PM   #36
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Tysyacha here, and I'm having a heaping helping of some crow cocktail as an aperitif, followed by crow cordon bleu as my entree, crow Cobb salad as a side dish, crow cornbread as my slice of biscuit carbs with my meal, and for dessert, crow cobbler a la mode! (Oops, just found out they're all out of that. I'll settle for humble pie instead.)

How come it only occurred to me that my question was ambiguous only AFTER I hit the "SUBMIT POLL" key?!? Arrrgh!!! Definitely wasn't playing my pazaak "A" game...

Anyway, what I really mean is actually 2 questions instead of the vague-azoid 1:

Question 1: How will this planet come to an end? I vote the Sun going nova.
Question 2: How will civilization come to an end? I vote war/terrorism.

Sorry for any and all confusion this question has caused you. And to think I got an "A" in Stats when I took it as a community college satellite course back in 2003!
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:36 PM   #37
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Nuclear war, thats how. We'll kill each other.

Or we consume all the natural resources and fight for the few remaining scraps.


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No nuclear war. Don't orget th eInternatioanl Treaty prevents that- if soebody desides to fire a nuke without permission from all 3 world superpowers, they'll face grave consequences.
For example:

If hugo chvez tries to hit the U.S with a nuke, the assassination amendment or whateve r it's called will become null and void towards venzula, and the U.S will be allowing to assinate Hugo chavez.
If north Korea tries to kill us, they'll fail due to the nifty new offshore anti-missile defenses platforms. One platform on each coast, each will multi-thousand mile range, and effective agaisnt multiple missile attacks. if that fail, the International Satellite network's few military staellites can shoot them down.

If noclear war ensues between the three world superpowers, we all know who'll win. The U.S of course. Were the top dog military superpower. even if we do take soem damge in a nuclear war, we'll still win in the very end. Note that we have constiderable advnatage due to the fact that the U.S controls th wrolds majority of military satellites...


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Old 08-17-2007, 01:25 AM   #39
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No nuclear war. Don't orget th eInternatioanl Treaty prevents that- if soebody desides to fire a nuke without permission from all 3 world superpowers, they'll face grave consequences.
That's assuming we're all still around and haven't completely destroyed each other with the nukes in the first place. The people who are going to use the nukes aren't going to care about any treaties.


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if soebody desides to fire a nuke without permission from all 3 world superpowers
Forgive me: which three are those? Last I had heard, the U.S. was the only superpower in the world. Apparently that comes with a clause that exempts us from the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, a fact that makes us appears as hypocrites to other nations and emboldens those that consider us to be imperialists.
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