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Old 03-05-2009, 10:44 PM   #521
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Theyre essentially hotfix packs stinger I like W7, but I wouldnt recommend getting too excited about it.

There are some definite enhancements in their for niche users...eg. tablet pc and htpc, networking. I think most people wont notice the difference if they have a stable vista rig.

W7 RC is due April, so we'll see if they do any more cosmetic tweaking in that

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Old 03-07-2009, 03:59 AM   #522
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^A lot of SP generally rollup all of the previous updates into one package to make it easier to update everyone's PC as well.

I've only gotten excited for one SP ever...Vista SP1...simply because it perfected Vista in my eyes...otherwise...SP's are nothing special to me.



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Old 03-07-2009, 11:01 AM   #523
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What's everybody's take on this year's CeBIT?

Looks like the rumors of a GT300 announcements from NVIDIA during CeBIT turned out to be just that. Maybe Q3 this year? Seeing as how Windows 7 looks like it's shaping up for a late 2009 release I'm looking for DirectX 11 support whenever NVIDIA does end up announcing their newest graphics technology. Of course NVIDIA announced new versions of their mobile GPU's as well as the GTS 250, which turned out to be a rebadged 9800 GTX+ for the most part.

I was excited to see AMD announce 40 nm process GPU's, even if they were for the mobile graphics market segment. Makes me wonder if they will be announcing 40 nm versions of their desktop graphics cards before too long.

And then AMD completed the spinoff of their fabs this past week, finally announcing the name of their joint venture with ATIC as *drum roll*
GLOBALFOUNDRIES. Alrighty then. Let's see if the injection of fresh capital can put the now independent chipmaker into a competitive position against the TSMC's of the world.


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Old 03-07-2009, 09:35 PM   #524
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CAN'T WAIT FOR WINDOWS 7...btw. lol



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Old 03-08-2009, 05:37 PM   #525
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What's everybody's take on this year's CeBIT?
meh, nothing too terribly exciting. it had some good news, but it just didn't have much in it that got me excited.

@urluckyday - why?? still using Windows 95 or something??


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Old 03-08-2009, 08:27 PM   #526
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I noticed today that Apple has a new iMac out: Clicky

What on earth is a GeForce GT 120/130???
After a long and extensive search I found out it's pretty lame: Clicky againy

Sooo the only iMac worth buying is a 24-inch one with the HD4850 GPU (which would pwn though!) at a modest £1650 or so, lolz.

Sad thing is: I still want it!

Off Topic: Sorry I've been wuite absent recently just has a lot to do recently, thought I'd get pro-active and put a lot of effort into that LucasCast Jingle with my fiancee and it turned out to be a big waste of time, so it's put a big damper on the morale here cause stuff is pretty crap, so don't panic if you don't see much of me in the next little while...Astro dude I promise as soon as I get another desktop I will make it fold its a$$ off to catch up with you guys!!!

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Old 03-09-2009, 12:42 PM   #527
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Astro dude I promise as soon as I get another desktop I will make it fold its a$$ off to catch up with you guys!!!
You'd be a welcome addition to ''The Fold''. Get 50WUs and earn yourself a cool folders badge too

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Speaking of mobile GPUs, asus is touting an uber gaming lappie, featuring a GTX 260M. I usually dont care for them(or their price) much, but good to know these things are keeping up with their desktop counterparts for gaming

Im glad the GTX300 isnt out yet, I cant afford it atm!

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Old 03-09-2009, 02:05 PM   #528
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Get an Nvidia card and use F@H's GPU client.

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Old 03-09-2009, 02:25 PM   #529
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@urluckyday - why?? still using Windows 95 or something??
Nah, Vista's great...but this'll be the first time I'll be able to upgrade my Windows version right at launch...I'm getting Windows 7 on day 1.



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Old 03-10-2009, 01:02 PM   #530
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I wish they'd write one for ATI.
There is one. It just isnt as quick. Upcoming AMD GPUs boast a ConGPU functionality. It really up to ATI to make a committment to the project, and to make an sdk which will support a specialised client(like the cuda sdk) nvidia did all this work, amd didnt ....simple as that.

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In other news..... whilst I myself am a FF devotee, and I know a few here seem to use IE, Its always nice to know whats out there.

I dont use safari at all really, but couldnt resist checking this out after the news that Safari 4(still in beta) is apparently the 'worlds fastest.'

Of course Apple say it's so, and some hopefully independent benchies done at cnet UK published the rather sensationlist review demonstrating that safari4 is "42x faster than IE8, 3.5x faster than FF". I think these benchies need to clarified, as they only refer to rendering javascript (as measured on sunspider suite)


You can get the safari 4(beta) here.
http://www.apple.com/safari/


Whilst safari lacks the community input and plethora of plug-ins like FF, for those into browser speed, its nice to know its there

For those curious about what 'minefield' is, its basically the next FF. Trunk builds are available for advanced tester types >>HERE

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Old 03-10-2009, 01:42 PM   #531
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^I stopped using FF frequently when 3.0 came out...it got a lot slower and it took up a lot of memory.



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Old 03-10-2009, 06:24 PM   #532
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^aero churns way more memory than FF.

This is an easy fix though, some options:
*Dont install top heavy extensions
*Use firefox portable
*Just keep running v2
*use chrome or opera

just dont go back to ie...pleez..or many many kittens will be sadz

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Old 03-10-2009, 07:37 PM   #533
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^aero churns way more memory than FF.

This is an easy fix though, some options:
*Dont install top heavy extensions
*Use firefox portable
*Just keep running v2
*use chrome or opera

just dont go back to ie...pleez..or many many kittens will be sadz

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Go back to IE? I've used IE ever since FF 3.0 has come out...IE is just as good as FF 3.0 imho.
I didn't like opera personally...and I hate, and I mean hate google...almost as much as Apple, so chrome is out.

I had only about 3 light apps installed on FF, and it was slow as molasses.

IE is fine for me...I'm a microsoft junkie anyway...and the kittens will get over it lol



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Old 03-11-2009, 05:39 AM   #534
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Go back to IE? I've used IE ever since FF 3.0 has come out...IE is just as good as FF 3.0 imho.
There's been alot of independent analysis from a security and performance perspective that says otherwise. But hey, if you likes it, you likes it

If you're not using the ie7pro add on kit, by all means check it out. It will give you adblocking and many other cool tweaks

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Old 03-14-2009, 04:13 AM   #535
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For those that didnt catch much of what happenned at CeBit 2009, check out G3Ds summary,
nicely filtered for stuff only gamers would be interested in

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Old 03-18-2009, 07:46 AM   #536
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I have been looking at instant on OS options. Ideally, Id like one that can work simultaneously and independently of windows, but the only option for that is a hard drive selector atm.

However, in my travels I discovered this, which is nifty especially for those with netbooks and lappies IMO.

Xandros Presto is an 8 second on OS that is installed within vista or xp, but then gives you the option to boot into it indepedently upon startup, allowing you access to your windows files, using office docs and FF/skype and such. They also have an apps store.

Whilst it's a flavour of linux, because of its apps store and support, it will cost $20 when it goes retail im April. Not unreasonable IMO.

Of course Linux experts can tweak a live distro to start in 10 secs, but this product is desgned for people who do not have that proficiency, and do it all from windows.

You can have a play with the beta for free >> HERE

They are thinking about a USB option, which would be cool(and portable!)

There are a couple of sorta similar things around, but the beauty of this (for windows users) is that it is easy to install and uninstall(just like any other app). No terminal window craziness. I like the idea meself, Kudos to Xandros on the initiative



Here's a video demonstration >> takes about 9 seconds by my count. Still quick though

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Old 03-19-2009, 04:35 PM   #537
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IE8 just got its final version released today. So far so good. It's faster and more efficient. Also, if a website isn't friendly with IE8, you can turn on website compatibility which will make the website more compatible with it.



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Old 03-21-2009, 07:45 AM   #538
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News roundup!

AMD HD4890 gets picced and mildly benchmarked. Looks like a competitor for nvidias upcoming GTX 275 with 240 Stream Processors(like the GTX 285)

Here's an interesting story - A Hacker Olympics is currently running, with cash prizes of $5000-$15,000 being paid for hacks into popular apps across desktop and mobile platforms. IE8, Firefox and Safari all had their a$$es handed to them on a plate on the same day, by the same hacker

In other news, e-reader fans may get excited to learn about Fujitsu's FLEPia, the world's first color e-book reader... but worth $1010 US? Probably not!

Like bigTVs? Check out this 103'' 1080p Plasma Weighs and costs heaps

In CPU news, the 3.1Ghz Phenom 950 has apparently been ditched in favour of a 3.2Ghz 955 These AM3 CPUs will be shipping in May. Probably good news for Char and myself, patiently waiting for an AM3 platform from shuttle that will suit our respective needs

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Old 03-26-2009, 10:12 AM   #539
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Here's an interesting article comparing gaming performance of current cards and titles on Vista v Windows 7 (beta). It looks like Win7 is pretty stable as a gaming rig. Not a huge surprise though, given its a point revision of Vistas kernel

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid...=expert&pid=28

So please, when you hear someone frothing about how awesome win7 is over vista, remind them it actually IS vista, with tweaks garnered from 8 years of testing... (work commenced on the longhorn kernel in May 2001) As a tablet pc and media center user, I really like W7, but the fanboy hype around it is a nauseatungly uninformed [/editorial]

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Old 03-28-2009, 01:24 AM   #540
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Which one of you is going to get the first terahertz processor?
http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Art...multiplier.htm


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So please, when you hear someone frothing about how awesome win7 is over vista, remind them it actually IS vista, with tweaks garnered from 8 years of testing... (work commenced on the longhorn kernel in May 2001) As a tablet pc and media center user, I really like W7, but the fanboy hype around it is a nauseatungly uninformed [/editorial]

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http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Art...multiplier.htm
It hertz so good. I'm game as long as the power consumption isn't off the charts. Graphene does sound like an exciting new material. I only wonder if the technology to utilize it will be available within the next five years.


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Old 04-12-2009, 08:39 AM   #542
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Just a quick bit about the new 'mid-high end' cards you may have heard about:

GTX 275 review

HD 4890 review

both are apparently nicely overclockable

Still waiting for ths GTX 300 myself...just to see its numbers before I decide if its worth the splurge...

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Old 04-14-2009, 09:57 PM   #543
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Seems like the HD 4890 and the GTX 275 are fairly close to each other in terms of performance in games. NVIDIA still rules the performance roost when it comes to folding though.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to GT 300 as well. Haven't read any recent rumors about when NVIDIA will launch it though.


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Old 04-22-2009, 10:17 AM   #544
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I often get cross looks from the non tech savvy, or the elderly when I tell them paper will be a thing of the past one day, especially in books and newspapers and that e-ink and its successors will rule the roost.

Heres a pre production model of the 'Readius' by polymer visions, featuring an e-ink display that is foldable and tucks up into a nicely pocketable/format(unlike other readers out there)

Will feature Bluetooth, 3G expandability via microSD... now all they need is money to go mass produce them.. its funny that Phillips hasnt coffed up because a foldable e-paper was originally their idea/project...


anyway, WANT! All my novels, access to messages and feeds... 10 days battery life Though I think they should take the oft floated idea of some solar recharge technology, making these things never require extra power.

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Any word on when Shuttle will launch AM3 systems?


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Any word on when Shuttle will launch AM3 systems?
A quick poke around says no

One of the regs at sudhian got his hands on the corei7 based SX58H7, this image he posted bought a figurative tear to the eye...



Love seeing the ubercards get squeezed into the shuttle and working on 500W

Can I wait for the AM2/3 version....will there be an AM3 version ?? Time will tell.

In other news:
*Windows 7 RC publicly available May 5th. Technet peeps get it April 30. Russian mafia p2p leak already available
*Pro/Ulti Versions of Win7 will have access to virtualised XP to keep the legacy peeps happy?

Finally > some juicy GT300 news/speculation. This is the source article posted 4 days ago.. I cant be bothered summarising so heres a ninja c'n'p

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GT300 architecture groups processing cores in sets of 32 - up from 24 in GT200 architecture. But the difference between the two is that GT300 parts ways with the SIMD architecture that dominate the GPU architecture of today. GT300 Cores rely on MIMD-similar functions [Multiple-Instruction Multiple Data] - all the units work in MPMD mode, executing simple and complex shader and computing operations on-the-go. We're not exactly sure should we continue to use the word "shader processor" or "shader core" as these units are now almost on equal terms as FPUs inside latest AMD and Intel CPUs.

GT300 itself packs 16 groups with 32 cores - yes, we're talking about 512 cores for the high-end part. This number itself raises the computing power of GT300 by more than 2x when compared to the GT200 core. Before the chip tapes-out, there is no way anybody can predict working clocks, but if the clocks remain the same as on GT200, we would have over double the amount of computing power.
If for instance, nVidia gets a 2 GHz clock for the 512 MIMD cores, we are talking about no less than 3TFLOPS with Single-Precision. Dual precision is highly-dependant on how efficient the MIMD-like units will be, but you can count on 6-15x improvement over GT200.
There are some crazy numbers right there... will believe it when I see it, and drool at how this thing can fold

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*sigh* Well, I guess I'll just wait for Shuttle AM3. I am interested in working with an AMD processor.

Nice find. Some eye-popping news there about GT300. I also saw another article on that website that AMD is seemingly planning on launching their next-gen GPU on 40 nm in July. Some really great competition going on in the computer graphics industry right now.


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Nvidia's bound and determined not to be caught flat-footed again like they were when R770 launched. We can probably expect DAAMIT's next GPU to possess similarly gargantuan capability, though, and it will most likely be cheaper.


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Nvidia's bound and determined not to be caught flat-footed again like they were when R770 launched. We can probably expect DAAMIT's next GPU to possess similarly gargantuan capability, though, and it will most likely be cheaper.
Rumours/details are already floating about about the 5870 and the 5870X2 with even whackier numbers than the GT300... The 5870X2 is promising 4.56 TFLOPS ....

Here's a table comparing the 5870 and the 4870, taken from a German tech site obviously *uses 100% of willpower to avoid making sausage jokes*



Then you have the scuttlebut about AMDs 128bit M-Space plans(formerly called fusion) << It looks pretty on paper, and it is a fabulous concept but we really need to see it work in real life...

speaking of the ongoing nvidia vs intel trash talk, a few days ago, nvidia technical marketing director called Intel out for being misleading with their published results about corei7, citing that you cannot quote 3DMark Vanyage CPU scores as direct gaming benchmarks.

He drew a decent analogy, comparing the Corei7 to a hummer, and a C2D to a beamer. It was so nice, that I cant be bothered paraphrasing, so here's a quote:

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To prove his point, Petersen outlined two types of PC, which he likened to cars - the Hummer and the Beamer. Petersen described the Hummer, saying that it “has got to be big, and it’s got to be expensive and of course it’s infused with Hafnium, which is kind of a dig at Intel. It has a Core i7, which is Intel’s latest, greatest CPU that they claim is the best for gaming.” The Hummer features a Core i7, 4GB of RAM, an X58 motherboard and a single GeForce GTS 250. Meanwhile, the Beamer swaps out the Core i7 CPU for a basic Core 2 Duo E8400, an nForce 750i motherboard and a pair of GeForce GTS 250 cards in SLI.

The cost difference between the two is massive, with a Core i7 965-based Hummer costing $1,501 US based on pricing from US etailer Newegg, and the Beamer costing just $715 US. Petersen also noted that even a Core i7 920 setup with a single GeForce GTS 250 would still cost more than the Beamer SLI rig at around $790 US. The prices were based on the core components only, and didn’t include features such as the case or PSU.

“You’re paying a pretty dear price to follow the Intel story of how to build the fastest PC for gaming”, said Petersen, as he showed a graph of how gaming performance scales with CPU upgrades. Petersen got his test results by adding together the frame rates from Crysis Warhead, Fallout 3, Call of Duty: World at War and Far Cry 2 at 1,920 x 1,200 (no AA or AF) and taking an average. With a Core 2 Duo E8400 and a GeForce GTS 250, the average was 41.6fps.

He then showed how this increased as you upgraded the CPU (the blue line in the graph above), and compared it to how the frame rate increased when you added another graphics card in SLI. The frame rate only increased to 42.4fps after upgrading to a Core i7 965, but jumped all the way up to 59.4fps after upgrading to a GeForce GTX 260 (216 stream processors) SLI setup.

This might seem obvious to those of us who know about how 3D acceleration works, but Petersen claims that the result is still “surprising to most people”. Petersen says that “it is a fact, that when you’re gaming and you’re running at resolutions of 1,920 x 1,200 or better, the Core 2 Duo is perfect for running all of today’s games. In real gaming, there’s no difference between a Core i7 and a Core 2 Duo.”
me likey this guy Tom I love arm flapping about the "cpu-ceiling", good to see some industry types doing the same source article at bit tech April 23 2009

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In other interesting news, Samsung has come to the Android Phone party, announcing the Samsung I7500 with OLED touchscreen


Whilst Im pretty happy with my ole HTC touch dual, I would like to have a play with one of these:

Specs for those interested>>
The Samsung I7500 will be available in major European countries from June, 2009. (US: TBA)

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HSDPA 7.2Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps (900 / 1700/ 2100MHz)
EDGE / GPRS (850/ 900/1800/1900)
OS
Android
Display
3.2" HVGA(320x480) AMOLED
Camera
5 MP Camera (Auto Focus), Power LED
Video / Audio
Video: MPEG4, H.263, H.264, WMV
Audio: MP3, AAC, AAC+, e-AAC+, WMA, RA
Value Added
Features
Full Web Browser Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Android Market
Connectivity
Bluetooth® 2.0, USB 2.0, WiFi, MicroUSB, 3.5mm ear jack
Memory
Internal memory: 8GB
External memory: Micro SD (Up to 32GB)
Battery
1500 mAh
Size
115 x 56 x 11.9mm
can I say: WANT!

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I don't know Astro, check out the new phone my fiancee got yesterday, even this Iphone fanboy is drooling all over it!!!

HTC Touch HD






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* Screen size: 3.8 in (97 mm) (!!!)
* Screen resolution: 480 x 800 WVGA (pwnage!!!)
* Input devices: Resistive touchscreen, Capacitive touch-sensitive front panel buttons.
* Battery: 1350 mAh
* Talk time: 310 minutes (GSM) to 390 minutes (WCDMA)
* Standby time: 390 hours (GSM) to 450 hours (WCDMA)
* Video call time: 120 minutes
* 5 megapixel rear-facing camera with autofocus, VGA CMOS color front-facing camera for video calls
* GPS and A-GPS
* Qualcomm MSM 7201A 528 MHz ARM processor
* RAM: 288 MB
* ROM: 512 MB
* microSD slot (SDHC compatible) (8Gb included)
* Operating system: Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
* Quad band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (GSM 850, GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM 1900)
* Dual band UMTS/HSDPA (3.5G)/HSUPA (UMTS 900, UMTS 2100)
* Wi-Fi (802.11b/g)
* Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR & A2DP
* Mini USB (HTC ExtUSB)
* 3.5 mm audio jack, microphone, speaker
* FM radio
* Size: 115 mm (4.5 in) (h) 62.8 mm (2.47 in) (w) 12 mm (0.47 in) (d)
* Weight: 146.4 g (5.16 oz) with battery





It combines the sexiness of the almighty Iphone with the customisability and power of windows mobile. I might steal it



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Man, I hate phones, but that is just fat.


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NVIDIA appears to be getting the squeeze from their chief competitors in the chipset arena. Intel has already asserted that NVIDIA isn't licensed to make chipsets for Nehalem processors and has filed suit against NVIDIA. Now an AMD exec has apparently gone on record saying NVIDIA isn't licensed to make chipsets for AMD's future CPU's.
betanews - Nvidia's licensing situation with AMD is just as bad as with Intel

In OS news, Microsoft has revealed they will release a Windows XP Mode for Windows 7, using Virtual PC. This will apparently be available as a free download to owners of Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, and Ultimate.
CNET News - Windows 7 to have an 'XP mode'
I was thinking I would need to dual boot XP and Windows 7 for a while but maybe I won't have to (I plan on getting Windows 7 Pro).


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NVIDIA appears to be getting the squeeze from their chief competitors in the chipset arena.
lolz... that almost makes it look like AMD and Intel are agreeing on something

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In OS news.. Microsoft has revealed they will release a Windows XP Mode for Windows 7, using Virtual PC....
You youngsters, never reading ole Uncle Astro's posts fully Check my post above with the pic of the 295 in the shuttle

@negsun.. I would take the touchHD over the iphone anyday, though I think if I had the luxury of choice, I might just take the omnia HD over the touch HD

Still, Ive seen Android in action on a HTC Magic and its nothing to be sneezed at by any means...clicky for live demo vid

MS have their work cutout to catchup with WinMO7. The HTC/Samsung touch interface add-ons only go so far to dress up the dated winMO interface.

At this stage though, no plans to move away from my htc touch dual. I like its size..perfect for my hand


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My bad. I guess I just focused on the GT 300 news in your post and didn't pay attention to the rest.

If I post about AMD launching the first 40nm discrete graphics card for the desktop PC market segment in the HD 4770 will that make up for it?
DailyTech - ATI Launches Radeon HD 4770 Video Card Using 40nm RV740 GPU
Guru3d - ATI Radeon HD 4770 review

While it looks like AMD is successfully making the transition to 40 nm with its GPU's I really question whether or not NVIDIA will be able to do the same with GT 300.


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While it looks like AMD is successfully making the transition to 40 nm with its GPU's I really question whether or not NVIDIA will be able to do the same with GT 300.
I dont think theyd be fussed if they caught up a bit later... they didnt embrace GDDR5 with as much gusto, it still didnt stop them cranking out the most powerful single GPU device on the market...

speaking of nvidia, looks like theyve scored a winner with the ion platform... the buzz around which is quite phenomenal. All those poor mini-itx users out there, paying throigh the nose ......behold what mass production market-bombing does to their boutique little niche

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Just a FYI for those keeping an eye on W7

To recap :
*We all know leaked 7100 RC1 has been out about a week now on p2p
*Technet subscribers got the official 7100 RC1 Build yesterday(April 30)
*Official Public release 5th may

Here are a coouple of great blog entries on MSDN about changes from public beta build 7000 that was released a few months ago
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EDIT:
Here's the official download link for RC1 from MS. Youre probably best off launching this in IE so you can use the activex download applet as sometimes FF download manager may lose the plot over a larger download. You'll of course need your windows live ID(eg. a hotmail address etc) if you want to get it from here directly. Came through at the full speed my connection allowed

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win.../download.aspx

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NVIDIA ramping 40 nm GPU products

According to a report on bit-tech NVIDIA CEO Jen-Hsun Huang says NVIDIA has three 40 nm products in production and that NVIDIA is "ramping 40nm probably harder than anybody" with more 40 nm products coming shortly.
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I for one question whether GT300 will be on 40 nm process. I don't claim to be an electronics engineer or anything even remotely close but I was under the impression that it was extraordinarily challenging to design a new chip architecture on a new process, hence the reason Intel uses its tick-tock strategy. I guess we'll see how things turn out in the next few months.


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^^^^

sounds like they'll be launching the GT300 initially based on a 55nm part. with AMD pushing back the launch of the new 5800 series of Radeons to the holiday season, i think it would be reasonable to assume that a 40nm die-shrink of the GT300 will be launching about the same time as the 5800 series to try and take some wind out of AMD's sails.


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Whilst GT300 will likely be unleashed on 55nm, I think nvidia could have waited it out and worked on the 40nm part instead. The GTX295 can handle most things you can throw at it more than adequately even at 1080p. It can also fold like a super origami master, so theres no huge need, apart from that which stirs in fanboys loins

*continues waiting for GT300*

speaking of fanboys, AMD fans worldwide(this one included) popped open a bottle of e-champagne when Intel was fined $1.45 BILLION USD for messing with AMD on certain antitrust and pricing matters... Intel of course plan an appeal but it did bring some cheer to see them finally being called out on their business practises.... source: BBC News

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and apparently, AMD's strategy to hold people over is to offer overclocked versions of their 4890's. today marks the day of the 1GHz GPU that AMD developed as a reference board that will soon be heading out to third-party manufacturers and onto shelves. no word as to what kind of performance these things will have, but i can imagine that it'll be pretty impressive. the biggest questions at this point: how much will it cost, and will it be enough to hamper expectations for Nvidia's GT300??

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