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Old 10-30-2007, 10:44 AM   #1
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Lucasarts and Bioware Corp. partnership OFFICIAL - At last

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Lucasarts and Bioware Corp. To Develop Ground-Breaking Interactive Entertainment Product
SAN FRANCISCO, CA and EDMONTON, CANADA — October 30, 2007 — LucasArts and BioWare Corp. today announced that they have entered into an agreement to create an interactive entertainment product. The product, details of which will be unveiled at a later date, will be developed and published by BioWare and LucasArts, and will push the boundaries of the gaming market by utilizing the strengths of both companies to deliver an innovative, high-quality experience.

“LucasArts has a deep commitment to developing compelling stories and characters for the unique medium of interactive entertainment, and we have been searching for a developer that shares this value. We found this in BioWare,” said Jim Ward, president of LucasArts. “Through our previous collaborations, we know that BioWare has an impressive ability to blend gripping stories with technological advancements, and we believe that our upcoming product will deliver an experience that will span the traditional boundaries of video game entertainment.”

“BioWare’s mission is to deliver the best story and character-driven games in the world, delivering powerful emotional experiences to our fans.” said Ray Muzyka, chief executive officer, BioWare Corp. Added Greg Zeschuk, president of BioWare Corp., “The collaboration with LucasArts allows us to combine our passion for creating high quality and innovative experiences with those of a company dedicated to bringing only the finest games to market.
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Old 10-30-2007, 11:02 AM   #2
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Old 10-30-2007, 11:03 AM   #3
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at last, Bioware has taken its rightful place at LA's side!!!


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Old 10-30-2007, 11:06 AM   #4
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If it is about a KotOR era MMORPG. I hope they call it something other than KotOR. I also hope that OE gets to do the sequel to TSL.


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Old 10-30-2007, 11:07 AM   #5
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Very interesting indeed!

Guess we will have to wait and see what that actually means, and what platforms things will appear on...

Although, unfortunately, if they really are just reaching an agreement now, that means a new game, whatever it might be, is likely still several years away.

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Old 10-30-2007, 11:25 AM   #6
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With all the rumors and other subtle remarks that have been reported throughout the past year I'm going to be very surprised if this doesn't turn out to be a KotOR-based MMORPG.


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Old 10-30-2007, 11:37 AM   #7
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Well, if it's a single-player RPG, then we know that the main character will be a "mysterious stranger" with a hidden and troubled past which holds the key to the future.

At least, that seems to be the case in virtually EVERY Bioware RPG. :P
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Old 10-30-2007, 11:39 AM   #8
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it is a star wars based mmo. there is no need to speculate it from now on. i am pretty exicted what we will see new about this and if it can beat WoW kingdom..
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Old 10-30-2007, 12:41 PM   #9
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This has made my day!! *cheers*

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Old 10-30-2007, 01:08 PM   #10
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I hope its not the MMO...

Now, how about a new Monkey Island with a realistic dueling system where you can yell out your own insults?
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Old 10-30-2007, 01:25 PM   #11
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I hope its not the MMO...
Sure you can hope but I wouldn't bet on it, if I were you.

Interesting that GameSpot is reporting that this new game will be co-developed and co-published by BioWare and LucasArts. I'm not sure that is the case but it would raise my eyebrow another notch if this is indeed true, the co-development because LucasArts hasn't developed any RPG's before and the co-publishing because I don't know how that would work between LucasArts and BioWare's soon-to-be parent company EA.


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Old 10-30-2007, 01:30 PM   #12
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Ditto.

From the quote: "interactive entertainment product", I'm hoping it ain't MMO, but that title is so vague that it could mean anything from KotOR3 to 3D Chess!


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Old 10-30-2007, 01:40 PM   #13
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Char Ell, the press release itself says that the game will be developed and published by them both.

Very interesting report! I for one would be happy if the KotOR MMO rumors were true, but of course I'd be satisfied with a traditional RPG too. Whatever the game is, I'm looking forward to it. Too bad the earliest we'd see something is probably 2009.


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Char Ell, the press release itself says that the game will be developed and published by them both.

Very interesting report! I for one would be happy if the KotOR MMO rumors were true, but of course I'd be satisfied with a traditional RPG too. Whatever the game is, I'm looking forward to it. Too bad the earliest we'd see something is probably 2009.
I'd also love to see a Kotor MMO but would wonder if it would work and not end up like Galaxies..............

As far as Fantasy RPGs go i think WOW is enough but i would one day like to see
an MMORPG of the Elder Scrolls that would incorporate all of Tamriel, Morrowind, Hammerfall etc. That really would be my dream project!
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Old 10-30-2007, 01:47 PM   #15
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Hmmm...this made my day

Co-incidence: I saw a gameshow yesterday. The reviewers had to review the Battlefront game for the PSP. One of them said the latest Lucasarts game were a bit emotionless, and missed the 'SW' and 'story' feeling. He mentioned Battlefront had everything Star Wars, except that's it just a reskinned Battlefield. Same goes for Republic Commando. Had all the ingredients, except that it tried to be 'Rainbow Six' in space.

Lucasarts must have heard it, since Bioware is one of (if not THE) best storytelling companies. Come on, anyone who has played Jade Empire or Kotor knows this. Despite the obvious cliché's, (Jade Empire=Asian, Kotor=Star Wars) the gave it a twist, and made it absolute magnificent games.

So...what franchise that's in the posession of LucasArts needs some new...story, emotion and all? Difficult...difficult...

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Old 10-30-2007, 01:50 PM   #16
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Char Ell, the press release itself says that the game will be developed and published by them both.
True that is one way of interpreting it. And while that may very well be the case it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me for BioWare to be involved in publishing the game when EA will be BioWare's publisher as soon as their acquisition of VG Holdings closes in January. In any case, time will tell and as you said we won't see this game before 2009 so there is plenty of time to figure out these details.

EDIT: You're right, DM. It seems all the gaming websites are reporting that this is a co-development effort. Now I'm really curious to see how this arrangement actually works out.


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Old 10-30-2007, 02:00 PM   #17
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maybe this means that they'll actually have to put effort into making the playable characters look different. With only 3 classes, 2 genders and like, 7 heads, we'd see a whole lot of clones in an MMO unless they introduce new races or use a face-sculpting thing like Oblivion.

edit: if Bioware and Luncsarts are teaming up, and Bioware is being bought out by EA, does this mean that it's really LucasArts and EA?


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Old 10-30-2007, 02:16 PM   #18
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Oh boy is there going to be trouble now... I would guess that LA entered into this with Bioware before they were bought by EA, since I can see no way they would otherwise have done it, EA being a major competitor to LA. To me this means...

1. EA and LA are on a direct collision course.

2. Bioware MAY get to do the game(s) that is/are already agreed and that's it!

3. I see a bad moon rising...

IMHO this sounds like incredibly bad and depressing news, however, because it clearly suggests to me that Obsidian will not get to do KotOR3 and that Avellone therefore will nto be allowed to finish what he started in TSL, since a LA/Bioware collaboration is likely to mean an MMORPG and so an end to the focused single player experiences of the KotOR games... in which case it's also likely means that KotOR is dead to me

Hail the KotOR comic books, which now seems to me to likely be the only true source of KotOR plots

Don't know why I'd be so surprised though - MMORGPs sell, and LA's track record suggests they kill good plot for good sales any day of the week...


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Old 10-30-2007, 02:29 PM   #19
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Here's some more "official" news..



I think there's a fairly good chance that we'll see this long rumored MMO with former swg devs at Bioware Austin.

Edit - then again who knows! lol


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Don't Give up all hope yet Jediphile, It could turn out to be another wild Bantha chase

As you say the Kotor comics have sustained us thus far, and you've always got TSLRP...

I personally have championed Bioware, and I would trust them with Kotor 3... In fact I'd insist on them doing it, but an MMO could be bad news for the Old Republic...


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I would rather have Obisidan pull off KOTOR 3. After getting used to TSL, a return back to Bioware's plots...er...seem not that good. Besides, Obisidan has an idea of where they want to take that story, and I like them having creative control.

I'm firmly convinced that KOTOR MMO is in fact coming out and that K3 won't come. It's alright though. KOTOR is already dead to me, so there is no need to mourn.


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Bet all you guys it isn't Star Wars-related and if it is, it's the MMORPG which my dad can't be bothered to pay for.

Well, maybe not...

Hope this partnership does spring some good games though.
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Old 10-30-2007, 04:51 PM   #23
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Here's some more "official" news..

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...G/nokotor3.jpg

I think there's a fairly good chance that we'll see this long rumored MMO with former swg devs at Bioware Austin.
While I don't think this game is KOTOR 3 that screenshot post wouldn't necessarily disprove it. It was posted in March this year, so it might be that at the time they had no plans to do KOTOR 3, but have since been approached by Lucasarts and had a change of plans.

In either case it will be interesting to see what this turns out to be. I just hope they do a PC version and not go the console only route with this game as well.


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"interactive entertainment product" seems a bit vague to me. For all we know this could mean anything from KOTOR to 3D backgamon. But the release used such adjectives as "groundbreaking" and "revolutionary" so i'm more inclined to believe it's a star wars product and not backgamon.

If it's not KOTOR i'll be pretty shocked.
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"interactive entertainment product" seems a bit vague to me. For all we know this could mean anything from KOTOR to 3D backgamon. But the release used such adjectives as "groundbreaking" and "revolutionary" so i'm more inclined to believe it's a star wars product and not backgamon.
They probably wouldn't team up with Bioware to make a backgammon game though. Bioware's strength and experience is in RPG development, so I'd guess it's some variant of role playing game.


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Old 10-30-2007, 05:23 PM   #26
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Eitherway im so giddy i can't wait. This is gonna be gooooood.!


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Old 10-30-2007, 07:19 PM   #27
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get ready to live the ultimate online star wars experience with BioWare.
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In either case it will be interesting to see what this turns out to be. I just hope they do a PC version and not go the console only route with this game as well.
If it's a MMO, it will most likely be released for the PC (WOW is more popular than any console game ever was, after all). If not, there is a big chance that it will be console exclusive (seeing as how both LA and Bioware care little for the PC as of late... a few Bioware developers even said that they play only console games. Kind of an odd statement since console games are made on the PC )
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Maybe someone could explain to me how a KotOR MMO release means KotOR3 is dead. They are two different genres with different consumer bases. The storyline set by KotoR and TSL would not be affected by an MMO, and I fail to see how an MMO could wrap up the loose ends of TSL.

What would stop Lucasarts from developing a KotOR MMO with Bioware and KotOR3 with Obsidian for example?


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Well, damn. Damn, damn, damn, DAMN.

This is without any doubt the most horrible, heart-wrenching, god-awful, <insert a thousand adjectives to imply awfulness> Star Wars news I have heard in years.

I sincerely hope that this is not KotOR they are working on, or it will mean the end of the brilliant character and plot development Avellone and co delivered to us. I don't doubt BioWare's capability to deliver a satisfying single-player roleplaying experience, but to be frank they just aren't on the same level as Obsidian as good as they may be. Of all the games Obsidian couldn't make, it had to be this one...

Of course, here I'm still assuming this is going to be a single player game. If this is a KotOR MMO the one untarnished game series I have yet to have played will have been utterly, completely ruined and turned into the worst possible parody of itself I could think of. Why don't we have Torment re-released as a shooter with half the dialogue while we're at it?

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That could be something to hope for. But this is LucasArts, so any possibility that could satisfy me I am instantly skeptical of. At the very least it would delay K3 by a few years to prevent the series from being over-milked in one sitting.


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This is a interesting development....to say the least...

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NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO! GOD DAMN IT! This is terrible news!

I can't help but think that there is never going to be a KotOR III by Obsidian now...

**** you, LA. ****. You.


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I think I might cry... and no, they wouldn't be tears of joy.

There's about as much of a chance of Obsidian making KotOR III now as there is of me gouging my eyes out with a rusty spoon. Even if they would be willing to spend the money on both a KotOR MMORPG and single-player RPG, they aren't quite in the habit of pleasing their customers.


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Old 10-30-2007, 10:22 PM   #36
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I guess pretty much any news on any given day tends to polarize people but sometimes more strongly than at other times. Obviously there are those who immediately dismiss a KotOR MMORPG as unworthy and want KotOR to continue as a SPRPG. I would prefer that as well. And while a KotOR-era MMORPG does seem to be the most likely possibility out of this collaboration we still can't be sure that is what it is until it's officially announced.

As for myself I'm open to a KotOR-based MMORPG. From what I've read about BioWare's MMORPG it seems that BioWare will use some very interesting technologies to promote a story-driven experience without the normal grind present in most of the current crop of MMORPG's. See 1UP's article BioWare Austin Talks About Upcoming MMO from last November to get an idea of what BioWare is shooting for with their first foray into this genre.

I'm excited about the prospects this combined BioWare/LucasArts project brings. Who knows? Maybe they'll surprise us and whatever it turns out to be won't be KotOR-related. But if it does turn out to be based in the KotOR era of the SW universe I know I'm going to try it.

Some other questions I've come up with so far:
If this is a collaborative development effort between BioWare and LucasArts then who from LucasArts will be involved in the development process? Where will these LucasArts people be located? Does everybody see where my line of questioning is going here?
The answers to these questions would also help determine LucasArts' disposition towards future RPGs. This could be a great mentoring project for LucasArts personnel to learn from some great RPG developers just how RP game design works. LucasArts could use this experience to develop future RPG's in-house.


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You know what, after so much time without anything (aside from being mentioned on interviews) about the KotOR franchise, even some lacking news like that one makes my day. Even if it's not the big 3 we were waiting, it's already a step on it's direction.

Personally, I root for the trilogy ends back on Bioware's hand, even, as some might say, the storyline suffers on the process. Well, I felt it disintegrate on the second installment, not Obsidian's fault, mind you, but because KotOR wasn't really meant to have a sequel. And even as Obsidian did their best, I found the result barely satisfying and that's it. For me, Bioware's the name.


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How could Lucasarts do this to us. We want to finish the story not have to pay 20 bucks a month to play an mmorpg which brings absoulutely no closure to the series. Cmon, Lucasarts is known for making alot of stupid moves(and i mean ALOT) but this is by far the stupidist. thanks alot for rewarding your loyal fans with a partnership with Bioware. I have just lost all of the little faith I actually had in Lucasarts and K3.
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Old 10-30-2007, 11:03 PM   #40
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Well, if it's a single-player RPG, then we know that the main character will be a "mysterious stranger" with a hidden and troubled past which holds the key to the future.

At least, that seems to be the case in virtually EVERY Bioware RPG. :P
So? It adds for twists and character development.
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