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Old 02-15-2008, 09:24 PM   #481
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The basics of marriage is a commitment between a couple to create a stable place to raise a child.

with that being said, you have to wonder if a shotgun wedding is the best option over not being married at all. Adoption is another viable option.


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Old 02-15-2008, 11:42 PM   #482
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i love how the unmarried people here are trying to sum up marriage in a sentence or two.

Keyan, it seems obvious that you're not going to change your position any time soon. But one other thing bothers me, and it is an underlying attitude in your posts that your sister is getting what she deserves because she's been this rotten person up til now.

Try to stay focused on the big picture and not the particulars of the setting: your sister is going to be bringing a new creation of God into the world. It is cause for rejoicing. She's going to need support, and you're going to have to show her that you care.
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Old 02-15-2008, 11:46 PM   #483
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i gotta work 7pm-11pm tomorrow. what a waste, that's not even $50. I think i'll call off sick, what the **** are they gonna do? i've got a few unexcused absenses left to utilize. why waste my gas, my energy, my unlimited power...on something so ****ing pathetic, when i'm not getting paid enough money, or even an ounce of respect.

it seems my sister is, indeed, intent on moving in with her boyfriend. So i'm stuck here babysitting the cats, with the worrisome parents looking out for me and I've got a sense that my landlords will try to break a deal with me by having their son move in up here, and lowering the rent payments. I do not wish to comply with that when it arises, but I also do not wish to live with my parents again. This leaves me with very limited options. I am so ****ing tired of being used and exploited by everybody, I do not know what else to do. The major kick in the ass is the car payments i need to make. Even if i could pay it off, i'd still be in the same position, my work schedule is sucking ass, and lovely walmart has started driving my face into the ****pile of limited hours. i feel like calling off every day, because what good am i doing there?

what does it matter if i'm not there. all my hard work goes for nothing. potential employers see 'walmart' in a reference, they're gonna just throw the application in the garbage, especially asking for over $11 an hour, despite my 6+ years of job experience, people just want to pay me ****, or not give me enough hours to make anything or save for anything, so even if i WANTED to go to college or take classes, i'd wind up in a damn debt hole. I think I know what must be done, but there is a big IF involved in that, and IF it doesn't go through, well...there goes my dignity and self respect, as well as my respect and love of anything or anyone.

i don't know why i'm feeling this way. i probably shouldn't even post this.


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Old 02-16-2008, 10:14 AM   #484
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Keyan: Despite your sister's history, and all of our doubts, this could just turn out to be a great, stable, lifetime marriage. We just don't know. Stranger things have happened.
It's the best any of us can hope for, and since they are technically adults: it is still their decision (and potential mistake...) to make. I think we all have to just wish them the very best of luck, and take them at their word that this is really what they want to do.

I think this will be my last word on the subject....

15: Tough it out man.

As an employer, I would rather see someone who excelled at a crappy job, kept a good attitude, and comes with high recommendations from a past employer over someone who says: "Well... that job sucked, so I kinda tuned out towards the end..."
No employer expects all your past jobs to be amazing. It's the attitude and work ethic that people look for the most. If you kicked serious ass at a crappy job like Walmart... imagine what you could do in a place where there might be some real potential for advancement?

Yesterday:

Comedian Daniel Tosh at our place. Very easy. Kinda funny. Good day.

Today:

Installing part of our old P.A. system in that church I looked at a couple of weeks ago. Hopefully all goes smooth, and we can finish the job today.

We'll see, I guess...


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Old 02-16-2008, 10:37 AM   #485
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a new development has just turned up. someone wrote me on myspace from a friend's account, giving her email address, wanting to meet me and seeing if we click or whatever. i'm considering contacting and meeting this person, just to do something different. what the hell, i really have nothing to lose.

gonna start up the email, though going to create a new address in case junk mail comes across.


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Old 02-16-2008, 11:23 AM   #486
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I hate to break it to you, but that's usually a scam, man.

Your friend's account has probably been hacked.

I'd get in touch with the person who's account it is and see if it's really legit or not. I suspect not.

But good luck if it is...


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Old 02-16-2008, 11:38 AM   #487
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i get my tracker back today!!!

i wrote an email to the person and put a copy of the letter in it. hoping for a positive response, expecting nothing.

oh my, happy day....my tax return was deposited. it's bill paying time!


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Old 02-16-2008, 12:28 PM   #488
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i love how the unmarried people here are trying to sum up marriage in a sentence or two.

Keyan, it seems obvious that you're not going to change your position any time soon. But one other thing bothers me, and it is an underlying attitude in your posts that your sister is getting what she deserves because she's been this rotten person up til now.
What she deserves is an eternity in hell for her sins, like pretty much all of us. I've spent her entire life trying to help her avoid what she deserves, get her back on track, live a good life, and be responsible enough to at least take care of herself. But she's always been a rogue and done whatever she's wanted, regardless of the logic (or lack thereof) of it. For all I know, she got pregnant on purpose.
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Old 02-16-2008, 03:44 PM   #489
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your attitude saddens me. i hope it changes soon.
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Old 02-16-2008, 03:54 PM   #490
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Changes to what?
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Old 02-16-2008, 04:35 PM   #491
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prolly would be best suited to move discussion to PM's
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Old 02-16-2008, 05:40 PM   #492
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Hey, are you mod or just the slave labolel?

However. You know, here in Germany it is also okay to live together, and have babies, without being married. Heck, I know enough people who lived together for like 10 years before they got married when the second baby came. It is like Keyan said, a child has a right to both parents. Nowhere it reads parents have to be married.


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Old 02-16-2008, 05:42 PM   #493
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i agree. just don't let her go alcoholic.

i got my tracker back. it runs better than it did the day i bought it. the transmission shifts alot easier.


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Old 02-16-2008, 06:03 PM   #494
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changes to something with less glee at her "misfortune" and with more support and love for your sister and her child on the way, whose uncle you are going to be.
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Old 02-16-2008, 06:39 PM   #495
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Um, what glee? There is no glee. There is nothing to be happy about here. This is a bad situation. The only thing I am even remotely happy about is that they are getting married.
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Old 02-16-2008, 07:00 PM   #496
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more good news my way. i just figured out that the tv i've been playing the xbox 360 on is HDTV 1080i...so i figured out how to hook the xbox 360 cables up to it. It looks pretty.

no response from the email i sent earlier.


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Old 02-16-2008, 07:02 PM   #497
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You're happy your sister is getting married with someone you'd rather love to flush down the toilet?


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Old 02-16-2008, 07:42 PM   #498
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hey, my sister got pregent while she was taking anti-preg shots.

*Shrug*

9mo + almost 4 years later...
I love my lil niece. she's quite as hell.
she hugs me, and thinks i'm in the air force.... O.o

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A window so that one can look at my insides Yeah baby, you like my central processing unit
Case fans up the waszoo! I'll sound like a 747 is taking off in someone's living room, while gearing up to play Mindsweeper! ZOOM!


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Old 02-16-2008, 07:44 PM   #499
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Pants.


Profound, and a statement that works in any situation.

Sound advice.

yup.... Pants.


Anyway, look on the bright side, you'll have a little niece/nephew to spoil. Always fun!

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You're happy your sister is getting married with someone you'd rather love to flush down the toilet?
I've wanted to flush all the people she ever dated down the toilet, just on general principle. As far as boyfriends she has had go, he is OK. At least he has a job, doesn't do any drugs as far as I know, has no severe mental problems. Also, wanting to get married proves that at least he is willing to take responsibility. Anyone else she has dated would have skipped town by now.

Guys, trust me, I know my sister, and I am sure this is the best thing for everyone involved.
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Anyway, look on the bright side, you'll have a little niece/nephew to spoil. Always fun!
I apparently have nieces and nephews I have never met.

My dad has other kids from his previous marriages. So I have 2 older half-sisters and a half-brother.

I have never met any of them. Despite the fact that they all live well within 100 miles of my current location. At last report, my sisters were in Worcester, Ma., and my brother was in Brighton, Ma. (spitting distance from where I work.)

I literally could pass any of them in the street (and as far as I know, I have... maybe on more than one occasion) and never know it.

This set of circumstances has always struck me as a very odd way to live one's life... but there we go. I have tried to contact the others on several occasions, with mixed results. My dad doesn't even have much (if any) contact with any of them these days, either.

But then, my dad's extended family litters this area... and I don't know any of them. Not a single aunt or uncle. The only people I know on my dad's side of the family are my dad and step-mom. And that's it.

Strange... but it is what it is.

P.A. got set up easy. It sounded pretty good under the circumstances. There was something weird bothering me... but nobody else heard it, and they were thrilled with the way it sounded, so I let it go. Otherwise, I'd probably still be there, troubleshooting and tweaking, and making myself crazy over it.

Hmmm... where the hell has Zoom wandered off to again? It just struck me that I haven't seen him in a couple of days... but since this is about the only thread I bother checking anymore, I could be missing much.


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work was easy. just sat around. 4 hours wasn't worth it though, and i wanted to get some groceries, but they ****ing blocked off the aisles cause they were waxing the floor.

i forgot to get cat food as well. dammit.

i get the 10-7 shift tomorrow. yay. i think i'll pay off my credit card and go for eye exam and contacts this week, throw it on the credit card since i may be getting a decent profit sharing check to more than afford it.


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I find it easier to not care about any one or any thing.


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I'm trying very hard not to be that guy anymore.

I've been meeting with extremely mixed results. Life keeps making it difficult to do anything but.


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Old 02-17-2008, 11:35 AM   #505
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It was warm and rained last night... then around 2am it froze. Now it is raining again and will probly freeze this afternoon, followed by snow, followed by high winds.

Welcome to wisconsin, if you don't like the weather just wait 15 minutes and it will change... drastically

Oh and I find it interesting Ike that you can talk me down as "Not knowing anything" yet don't offer and positive advice why I am wrong. Me thinks you decided to not like me and won't offer a chance of redemption. if you want to talk off list your welcome, but I find it rude when people dismiss me so easily.

And Keyan
"What she deserves is an eternity in hell for her sins, like pretty much all of us"

Yes we all deserve that, but we also should be doing our best to help people avoid it. There will come a time when she realizes how much she screwed up her life and she can either be bitter, or look to those that tried to help her and she ignored. But in the end it is HER choice. all we can do is try to help people find the correct path.


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Maybe, Keyan, you are a bit jealous because she takes the freedom for her life you are afraid of to taste. :PPP

I mean, reading again through your posts it seems you don't exactly know what your sister is really doing, and that you're kind of annoyed that she is not doing that what her family is expecting from her. Maybe that is also the problem for her being like that.

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Work was cool. After we closed, we took one of the nice Samsung 71 series TV's, plugged an Xbox 360 into it, and played Call of Duty 4.

I pretty much wreaked everyone.

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Going to buy an HDTV tomorrow. The one for the livingroom. It will probably be a Samsung... but probably under 40 inches.

1080p if I can get it.

Hugh Masekela tonight. South African jazz-pop. Pretty easy. Pretty nice. Little bit of drama earlier with the EMTs here with a stretcher. Nothing too serious from what I could tell, though...

Gotta get up crazy early to get the car to the dealership to be checked out. If you aren't there by 7, there's no guarantee they'll even look at it that day.

Then I'll take mom's Jetta wagon around to all the stores and do some comparison pricing on HDTVs.

Gonna be another expensive day.


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I pretty much wreaked everyone.
remind me sometime after i get back from deployment to challenge you to a drunken JKII:JA match.

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KK, I have nothing against you or anyone else here on the board. I didn't think my statement needed further explanation since I pretty much stated what I wanted to say, which is that marriage is a very complex thing and really can't be summed up in a sentence or two. Sure, you can say that it's just two people who love each other living together to create a stable environment for offspring, but when it comes to actually doing that, there is nothing simple about it.

I apologize if you took it personally, but I've heard comments from you and Keyan regarding marriage, and, as a married man, I find it somewhat comical since both of you speak from a theoretical standpoint, whereas I have actual experience. I also have experience regarding this EXACT same circumstance and feel pretty confident that I know what I'm talking about.

Keyan, you've got to stop thinking about this as something terrible. You just have to. Your sister is carrying a child of God, she's not marked with a scarlet letter.

Since the whole thing is still new and fresh for you and your family, I can understand your reaction. I just hope and pray that as it sinks in over time that you learn to focus on your sister's needs and the new neice or nephew that is going be around soon. If you've never been around a pregnant woman, you may be in for a shock.
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froze last night, don't know how much sleep i got. if i was here a few more hours instead of on my way to work in 30 minutes, i'd call down and make them turn the heat on. -_-

last night i decided to buy a 24 pack of bottled water, trying to drink 4 bottles a day or more, and see if i notice any improvement in how i feel.

i do believe the myspace email was an attempt to hack into my account. the girl's "friend" who wrote me, said to respond to an email, now a clueless person, would have used the email they registered myspace with, and then all the hacker would need after that is a password.


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Ugh.

Plans have changed.

First: I overslept. Not by much... but enough to set back my schedule for getting to the dealership before they opened at 7.

Secondly: The weather around here is completely ****tacular. Horrible.

Not really a day I want to be out in, if I can help it. Especially driving around in a car that's not my own.

If the rain and wind die down later this afternoon maybe I'll try to tackle part of my plans... but as it looks now, it's probably a good day to give up and head back to bed.

Which is probably what I'll do before too long.


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yeah.....keyan you could be the father figure


fiance and I looked at houses this weekend, 3/4 were a flop, the one we kinda liked, is about 24 miles outside of town, which could get $$ for commuting


only about 20 more to look at currently listed in our price range that interest us.

saldy most of them are not in a preferred location
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I apologize if you took it personally, but I've heard comments from you and Keyan regarding marriage, and, as a married man, I find it somewhat comical since both of you speak from a theoretical standpoint, whereas I have actual experience. I also have experience regarding this EXACT same circumstance and feel pretty confident that I know what I'm talking about.
This is the same reason people give for not trusting marriage advice from a priest, and I don't buy it. We know what marriage means. And even if we haven't been married, we've experienced marriages in our lives - our parents, family, friends, etc. There is something to the objectivity that comes with distance as well.

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Keyan, you've got to stop thinking about this as something terrible. You just have to. Your sister is carrying a child of God, she's not marked with a scarlet letter.
You can't just say, "Oops! What's done is done." and pretend everything is OK now. Sins require admiting that what you done is wrong, seeking forgiveness, doing penance, and to stop doing the wrong thing that you did. Of course, this has been the issue ever since she started living with this fellow.

But the pregnancy presents a real practical problem, namely she cannot take care of a child. She cannot even take care of herself. Both of their salaries combined do not equal their bills every month. And the thing is, it doesn't have to be this way. They could each be doing just fine, but they make poor decisions. My sister at this point could be making great money as a cosmotologist. But she's quit every single salon in town. She just gets bored with things and quits. Well, there's no quitting from motherhood. The real problem here is that once this baby is born, there is a real danger of her just getting bored and something terrible happening when she diverts her attention. You see this kind of stuff on the news all the time. She has GOT to get her act together or this is going to end in real tragedy.
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What she deserves is an eternity in hell for her sins, like pretty much all of us. I've spent her entire life trying to help her avoid what she deserves, get her back on track, live a good life, and be responsible enough to at least take care of herself. But she's always been a rogue and done whatever she's wanted, regardless of the logic (or lack thereof) of it. For all I know, she got pregnant on purpose.

Only someone who has lived a very cloistered, insulated life would have your opinions. Frightening to be sure.

Here's some news: you live in the real world, women get pregnant, married or not. You stated earlier that "You can't just say, "Oops! What's done is done." and pretend everything is OK now." let me amend that statement for you: "What's done IS done, so deal with it."

I understand that you care for your sister, and I understand that you think she's made a mistake. But she's your f'n family, don't condemn her because you are narrow minded. I feel sorry for you, not for her. She gets to bring a new life into this world, you get to be a miserable bastard who feels indentured to God and can't make a move in life without consulting the book. Get off your ass and live your life.

And by the way, once she has the child and you see it for the first time, you will forget why you were angry, I promise.


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Old 02-18-2008, 03:40 PM   #516
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Keyan, while you're at it, share how you are able to predict the future that certain, eh. Also, do you think if you and your family gonna drop her, that this would make things any better? I mean, at least she has a job, and he got one too, they live together, and obviously want to change nothing about that. And just because that doesn't hold on to your and your family's values doesn't mean this is terrible and wrong.


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ed, you would've probably had to wait forever in line at the dealer anyway, cause today is presidents day. walmart is packed like it's the end of the world...very strange for a monday.

my sis moved her dresser out, so i'm pretty sure i'll be here by myself a while. my parents are pissed at her, not for moving in with her boyfriend, but for not letting our landlords know what was up. so when i got home for lunch just now, my landlord's wife had some mail, so i just told her that i am pretty sure she is moving out. i'm po'd that she had to hear it from me and not her. -_- oh well.

as long as she doesn't take her computer.....my computer is not booting, keeps saying 'diskette drive 0 not found' i checked the cables a million times to the hard drive and it seems fine. the power supply isn't broke, it reads the ram correctly, so i'm gonna have to look into getting another hard drive...and i'll need to get windows xp as well.

i'm tired...i was working by myself most of this morning, waves of customers and people that were asking for stuff in the wrong department. i am glad that i only have less than 3 hours to go when i get back.

oh yeah, and my hours are being cut yet again in 2 weeks. down to 35. the "save money, live better" slogan only applies to people that do not work at walmart. how can i save money when i can barely pay the bills on this wage, yet not have enough money to SAVE in case something came up? i could go live with mom and dad! 2 years and 8 months of the place is getting to me.


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Old 02-18-2008, 04:01 PM   #518
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Yeah... that crossed my mind about the TV shopping too.

I just don't see another day on my calendar for weeks where I can both: live without my car all day; and borrow my mom's hatchback wagon for putting a flat screen TV in easily.

The weather is nicer now. And I had a pretty decent nap.

I'm gonna have some breakfast now, and a shower, and then head out to at least see if I can get that inspection behind me today anyway... if it will pass.


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15, diskette drive ain't harddrive? Maybe you just have to disable the floppy drive in the BIOS so the mainboard doesn't feel like checking it. It's no uncommon error afaik


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the computer has no floppy drive. i put everything back to 'default' status and it goes into the screen with the safemode options and start windows normally/wait 20 some odd seconds, well when i wait or hit enter for it to start windows, it freezes up.


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