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Old 01-11-2008, 05:30 PM   #1
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spartans vs rc's

saw a thread that mentioned spartans vs rc's and was gonna comment on it but some1 closed the thread anyway I think ppl missed the fact that originally the spartans were supposed to be deployed in squads when the spartan II project first came to be. a four man spartan squad vs a four man rc squad would definitely be an interesting fight and I think that whoever won would have have to be extremely dependent on luck and looking for one mistake that the others might make.
if u wanna talk about a 1o1 fight then think about master chief vs null before you think about the rc's. nulls have a lot more independence and initiative


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Old 01-19-2008, 06:05 PM   #2
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masta cheif would win we already established that i think.
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Old 01-24-2008, 10:50 AM   #3
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honestly i think it would really depend on the situation...both are really good at what they do...the only difference between Spartans and Clones is that Clones age faster cause of what the Kaminoans did with their genes...
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Old 02-05-2008, 10:04 AM   #4
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well if i was a clone trooper i would jst shove a thermal det down his spart throte and detonate it by shoting a hole in his spleen with a sniper rifle!!!!!!!=)
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Old 02-05-2008, 10:05 AM   #5
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well if i was a clone trooper i would jst shove a thermal det down his spart throte and detonate it by shoting a hole in his spleen with a sniper rifle!!!!!!!
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Old 02-05-2008, 10:06 AM   #6
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my bad about double reply comp went wak
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Old 02-10-2008, 12:15 AM   #7
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eh, Master Cheif is way over-rated.
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Old 02-10-2008, 01:16 AM   #8
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^ I pity the fool that said that [/Mr. T]

Spartan would win hands down, although the commandos would really put a helluva fight


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Old 02-10-2008, 11:34 PM   #9
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Old 02-10-2008, 11:52 PM   #10
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The commandos would win, provided I'm playing and I've got cheats.


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Old 02-12-2008, 04:14 PM   #11
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my bad about double reply comp went wak
Well now it's tripple posting, rofl. Use edit.

Personally I think if Commandos had all the weapons they could use at clone wars vs Spartans. Greeks would be pwnt. They had no ranged weapons to start with... then, they had no future tactics, which probably were way more effective than phalanx...

Good luck in predicting next time :P. Well but if it was one squad vs 300 spartans.. they might run out of ammo... then the stairs starts .
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Old 02-13-2008, 11:13 AM   #12
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except i'm not talking about spartans from 300...i'm talking about the ones from Halo...
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Old 02-15-2008, 05:41 AM   #13
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honestly i think it would really depend on the situation...both are really good at what they do...the only difference between Spartans and Clones is that Clones age faster cause of what the Kaminoans did with their genes...
They don't age fast after they've grown to full maturity, that was just a way to breed a large army very fast.

And Commandos would win, and they would win easily if I was playing them.
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Old 02-16-2008, 09:53 AM   #14
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It all depends on what weps the spartans have. I mean, if they had H1 Assault rifle or a plasma pistol, they're screwed.

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Old 02-22-2008, 09:50 PM   #15
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yeah but in all honesty who would try to play h1 spartans against rc's??? I'd put the H2 Spartans and weapons against rc's. both games came out around the same time...
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Old 03-06-2008, 11:12 PM   #16
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considering master chief recharges health without bacta, he wins if he gets that opportunity. however, with me controlling it'd probably be a double KO...and that would be SWEET
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Old 03-06-2008, 11:44 PM   #17
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considering master chief recharges health without bacta, he wins if he gets that opportunity. however, with me controlling it'd probably be a double KO...and that would be SWEET
As far as I know, The chief only regenerates his shields, but I only have Halo 1, but then the Spartans and RC are fairly matched.
I wish the chief was in SSBB, which comes out this weekend! w00t! w00t!

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Old 03-07-2008, 03:06 PM   #18
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As far as I know, The chief only regenerates his shields, but I only have Halo 1, but then the Spartans and RC are fairly matched.
I wish the chief was in SSBB, which comes out this weekend! w00t! w00t!
Yeah, Halo 2 and 3 don't have the health packs, just regeneration
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Old 03-09-2008, 11:16 PM   #19
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Yeah, Halo 2 and 3 don't have the health packs, just regeneration
Never played those two, since I don't have Vista and don't have an Xbox. Halo 2 only works on vista. :thumbs down:

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Old 03-10-2008, 10:59 PM   #20
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First off I love Republic Commando, it was a game SW needed to have and need to continue.

Here is my opinion, Commandos operate as a team and MasterChief is the lone soldier (not good to hang around with). I personally like the Tom Clancy like gameplay. Now if it was a one on one, I would bet money on the Commando
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Commando:Blaster, Grenade Launcher, Sniper rifle and a pistol. Then the optional fifth weapon. Flashbangs (love those), dentanators(?), the ECs, and those remote grenades. And all of the wonderful trap mines (limited to only how many barrels are around.

Masterchief: (Can only carry two weapons and eight grenades) I would say he would carry a battle rifle and a SMG.

Now already the Commando has more firepower than MasterChief. But wait MasterChief was trained since he was six. I do not know his age but I would say about 20 years. The Commado was trained for ten years and then gained another two years with the Clone Wars.

Now there is hand to hand combat, MC does the hit with whatever is in his hands. While the Commandos have that knife. Which does major damage to regular troops. So in hand to hand I would have to go for Commando, he can swing that knife faster than MC swings his weapon.

Now the COs weapons are electric (plasma like aspect with the electrons) so MCs shield will be drained quickly. And with a remote mine this fight would be over quickly. Now MCs weapons are projectile which are not that effective against shields, which means more shots and more exposure to the COs fire as well.

Honestly if MC had an advantage over a CO the CO will have enough firepower to keep MC at bay while he waits for his shields recharge.
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Old 03-11-2008, 11:21 AM   #21
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it you seriously think a commando would win, then you haven't played much halo. The alien you fight fight in halo are like eight feet tall; were the aliens in commando[except for super battle droid] are five feet tall. and that weapon choice sucks also, If he has a sword then the commando is screwed, plus fire granades and other new crap from halo three.

also spartans were trained to work as a team, it just so happened that the spartan base on reach got pearl harbored.
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Old 03-11-2008, 08:14 PM   #22
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I own Halo 1 and Halo 2 and beat both games about a dozen times each on legendary. I know all of the weapons and Aliens in those games.

And guess what, there is only one spartan in the games (I haven't read the books for I am not that addicted to the storyline of Halo) so there is no team and Masterchief is an individual fighter.

MC with a sword eh? I personally hate the sword but I know its capabilities and say that a sniper round to a head would end or some remote grenades. For Masterchief needs to get close and that would be difficult. Remember the Commandos also carry a grenade launcher that is almost like a rocket launcher vs Sword.

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Old 04-05-2008, 09:11 AM   #23
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Clones PWN!
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Old 08-07-2008, 04:10 PM   #24
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Commandos definately i've read the halo and commando books. in the end the clones would totally win




Stalking through the desert in the dark of night
Just me and my rifle looking for a fight
Spotter points forward and we hit the ground
In my bolt action I place one round
I close my eyes and take a deep breath
Exhale slowly and await another death
Sqeezing the trigger, never pulling back
The only sound you hear is one loud crack
Target hits the ground and struggles for his life
As I carve another notch in the stock with my knife
~ RC-1107 "Grimes"
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Old 08-11-2008, 03:53 PM   #25
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ya no question about it mc maybe taller but he can only carry 2 weapons for one while RCs can carry 4 weapons also 4-1 also helps the RCs and who needs a sword when u got vibro blades ka-cha




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Old 08-11-2008, 07:10 PM   #26
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The Commando would win!
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Old 09-19-2008, 03:56 PM   #27
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What is every one talking about, master cheif is all.....bio-augumented.. he could kill a squad of clone commandos by just punchin them in the face!i'd like to see their little laser wind shield wipers try to clean that off LOL. but any way chief got years of experience while da clones got like simulaters. the one thing they got in common is being trained from childhood.. the difference is that clones got like 9 years of training and cheifs got like 30..... guess my anwser to which will win lol
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Old 09-20-2008, 08:31 PM   #28
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but still the master chief is a one man army meaning hes a run-and-gun guy no strategic advantage when your outnumbered the rcs however use squad tactics and manuvering skills also the chief is only as strong as he is because of the bio-agumentation without that he would be pretty much just a well trained soldier




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Old 09-21-2008, 06:52 AM   #29
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but still the master chief is a one man army meaning hes a run-and-gun guy no strategic advantage when your outnumbered the rcs however use squad tactics and manuvering skills also the chief is only as strong as he is because of the bio-agumentation without that he would be pretty much just a well trained soldier
By the same token, without strategy and and squad tactics, the Republic Commandos are just well-trained soldiers.

Neither will win, because of how ludicrous the situation is.






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Old 09-21-2008, 04:47 PM   #30
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^^^ yeah what he said. Look this topic has been discussed to hell ages ago. I should know I created the topic. Now can we please let this thread along with the other one die.



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Old 09-22-2008, 06:42 PM   #31
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but squad tactics and strategy are part of training are they not bio-augumentation is altering genetics not training




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Old 09-22-2008, 09:09 PM   #32
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True... so true. Its kind of like SEAL teams they are only 4 guys but they can take down and army... i mean look at the book Lone Survivor... thanks to their training they killed around a few thousand taliban terrorists... augmentation doesn't matter its like what Psyco said... training is the key to success...




Stalking through the desert in the dark of night
Just me and my rifle looking for a fight
Spotter points forward and we hit the ground
In my bolt action I place one round
I close my eyes and take a deep breath
Exhale slowly and await another death
Sqeezing the trigger, never pulling back
The only sound you hear is one loud crack
Target hits the ground and struggles for his life
As I carve another notch in the stock with my knife
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Old 09-23-2008, 04:59 AM   #33
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but squad tactics and strategy are part of training are they not bio-augumentation is altering genetics not training
Then without such augmentation, the clones won't even exist. Or did you forget that little fact while trying to espouse the supremacy of the RCs once again?







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Old 09-23-2008, 09:41 AM   #34
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I hate doing this.

You can’t compare the two games together because there is no way to assume how the different game play elements would work out together e.g. weapon damage and so forth.

You have to compare them by the books and of course you’re going to get conflicts there as well. Neither author would falter the skill of there chosen warriors.

Hypothetically speaking of course if you were to place four non specific Spartans in a cage with four non specific republic commandos then I put my money on the genetically superior, highly trained, super soldiers that can punch through a mans head.
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Ok kid i've read the books and the RCs still would win... augmentation doesn't help someone win a battle, fight, war, etc. Its there training. Yes the clones were augmented but not in the same case as MC. In the books MC nearly dies about 3 or 4 times hes not some invincible god ok... just cuz halo is a more popular topic doesn't mean that the MC is better. And as we've said this topic has been discussed already. We are now just beating a dead horse farther into the ground...




Stalking through the desert in the dark of night
Just me and my rifle looking for a fight
Spotter points forward and we hit the ground
In my bolt action I place one round
I close my eyes and take a deep breath
Exhale slowly and await another death
Sqeezing the trigger, never pulling back
The only sound you hear is one loud crack
Target hits the ground and struggles for his life
As I carve another notch in the stock with my knife
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yes i agree with vode this is a dead topic/thread so let it rest in the thread graveyard...




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Old 09-24-2008, 04:44 AM   #37
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Ok kid i've read the books and the RCs still would win... augmentation doesn't help someone win a battle, fight, war, etc. Its there training. Yes the clones were augmented but not in the same case as MC. In the books MC nearly dies about 3 or 4 times hes not some invincible god ok... just cuz halo is a more popular topic doesn't mean that the MC is better. And as we've said this topic has been discussed already. We are now just beating a dead horse farther into the ground...
By the same token, neither are the RCs invincible. Also, you seem to be missing my point that the clones wouldn't exist were it not for genetic engineering.

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yes i agree with vode this is a dead topic/thread so let it rest in the thread graveyard...
We can discuss it all we like in so far as no-one has given any proper reasons why either side would win.






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I KNOW THAT THEY WERE GENITICALLY ALTERED I SAID THAT!!!! its called reading dude...."Yes the clones were augmented but not in the same case as MC"..... those were my exact words!!!!




Stalking through the desert in the dark of night
Just me and my rifle looking for a fight
Spotter points forward and we hit the ground
In my bolt action I place one round
I close my eyes and take a deep breath
Exhale slowly and await another death
Sqeezing the trigger, never pulling back
The only sound you hear is one loud crack
Target hits the ground and struggles for his life
As I carve another notch in the stock with my knife
~ RC-1107 "Grimes"
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I KNOW THAT THEY WERE GENITICALLY ALTERED I SAID THAT!!!! its called reading dude...."Yes the clones were augmented but not in the same case as MC"..... those were my exact words!!!!
It's called reading...

Cloning is augmentation - it's the creation of life through artificial means. Therefore, by removing augmentation from the discussion, you've just removed one half of the fight.






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Astors right. Cloning is the pinicle of genetic modification.


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