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Old 01-18-2008, 05:58 PM   #41
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Old 01-19-2008, 05:41 AM   #42
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Actually, Poiuy, Arabs are a race, and so are Jews. Not every Jew follows Judaism, and not everyone following Judaism is a Jew.
Just for info: there is only one human race.


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Old 01-21-2008, 07:43 AM   #43
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Just for info: there is only one human race.
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Old 01-21-2008, 08:48 AM   #44
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This is a pile of crap, not all white people are racist; racism exists in any race - it's part of human psychology IMHO and will never fully go away.
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Old 01-22-2008, 12:47 AM   #45
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Though on the other hand " Everyone is a bit racist"

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Old 01-22-2008, 12:54 AM   #46
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Though on the other hand " Everyone is a bit racist."
It's true, though I don't really think it's a bad thing.

yes....I can hear the: "ZOMG!!!! DID HE JUST SAY RACISM ISN'T BAD!!!??"

And yes, I did. It's a bunch of PC garbage that we all have to like each other and so on. It's our right to not like people for any reason we choose. What isn't our right is to treat others poorly because of it. Modern cultural relativist thinking seems to imply that we can't NOT LIKE anyone for any reason because they're "unique" and "special".

They're not, we're not, I'm not. And I don't have to hide my dislike behind a smile. Personally, I find that far more rude than to outright say: "I don't like you."

I once made a comment about illegal immigrants "flying under the radar" in reference to avoiding being caught by INS. I heard a *huff* from behind me, and after the debate I confronted the girl about her discontentment with my opinion. Damn it took a lot of pressuring her on my part to get her to spit out why she disagreed with me.

Why is it so hard for people to admit they don't like somebody, or something they say? It seems like we're all under this impression that holding your tongue makes a healthy society, and to this day I've never seen lying and deception make a healthy society.


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Old 01-22-2008, 01:41 AM   #47
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Actually, I think racism is bad, but being prejudiced is only natural. So while I dislike the prejudices based on race(more correctly ethnicity unless you happen to be prejudiced against chimps.... dirty creatures they are....), I think it will always be a part of our society.
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Old 01-22-2008, 05:24 AM   #48
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Actually, I think racism is bad, but being prejudiced is only natural. So while I dislike the prejudices based on race(more correctly ethnicity unless you happen to be prejudiced against chimps.... dirty creatures they are....), I think it will always be a part of our society.
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:55 AM   #49
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Well, obviously there is quite some difference between "a bit racist" which is probably a kind of personal prejudice without greatly affacting work and such, relative to zealot nutcase running around in white bedsheets.trying to murder people.

But well, I always wonder, sometimes, that why do you not like a specific person? this may or maynot be ethnicity related. Really, think about that.
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Old 02-13-2008, 05:09 PM   #50
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I can't help but wonder at the attitude that all whites are racist. I am givien the attitude on a regular basis that Im wrong because Im white. Gee. I wish someone told me sooner that I was. I was raised to believe in equality and to give respect to all races. I think whites are not the only ones that should have an attitude adjustment.

Yes, the attitudes toward other races has been less then pure, but those attitudes were not held by all.
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Old 02-13-2008, 06:30 PM   #51
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What's actually perplexing, but obviously VERY convenient, is the notion that one has to be politically powerful somehow to even qualify as racist. Still, I've met minorities that admit their own group is every bit as, or even more so, racist than the majority. I guess some people need a crutch to explain away many of their own personal failings.


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Old 02-14-2008, 04:07 AM   #52
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What's actually perplexing, but obviously VERY convenient, is the notion that one has to be politically powerful somehow to even qualify as racist. Still, I've met minorities that admit their own group is every bit as, or even more so, racist than the majority.
The reason might be that it's far easier for someone politically powerfull to harm others by being racist. So equally racist: yes, equally harmed by racism: no.


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That is disgusting. I'm white and I'm no racist.
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Old 03-01-2008, 04:08 AM   #54
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Facing race issues all the time where I live, in as few words as possible my feelings are I don't want to be racist, I try not to be racist but when you look at the anti white sentiment from ethnic groups, whether it be the Delaware college putting it onto white people that they are racist or in my case being made responsible for ethnic victimization, it can be hard not to hold bad or even racist views and feelings towards them.
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Old 03-01-2008, 05:04 AM   #55
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Facing race issues all the time where I live, in as few words as possible my feelings are I don't want to be racist, I try not to be racist but when you look at the anti white sentiment from ethnic groups, whether it be the Delaware college putting it onto white people that they are racist or in my case being made responsible for ethnic victimization, it can be hard not to hold bad or even racist views and feelings towards them.
So, it's OK for them to be racist at us, but it's not OK for us to be racist at them?


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Old 03-01-2008, 05:49 AM   #56
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I think it's fair to say that there probably have always been and will always be some sort of predjudice present. The ideal "equality utopia" people dream of is, well, a dream. Though personally my problem would be more with a "culture" being predjudice rather than people not liking each other. I mean, if you look at it everyone in this culture is stereotyped in some manner, whether they're male or female, black, white, asian or hispanic.

So I think their attitude is wrong in that if they really want to do something about prejudice they should lean more on a "We all need to work together" approach, as even if it's basically the same thing under a different banner people will feel more inclined to think "Yes, we all should work together" instead of the current reaction of "But we're not all racist". Wording has a big impact on these sorts of campaigns, and in targeting a specific group as the problem they've already alienated that group from helping them achieve their goal. Rather counter-productive, no?

I guess I could say I'm for the idea of anti-discrimination policies and education, but think they're going about it an a bad, bad way.
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Old 03-01-2008, 06:10 AM   #57
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@ Web Rider: That seems to be how they think, though I don't want to try and second guess the enraged outlook. I will however give my perspective. A month ago we celebrated our national holiday and the indiginous community held a protest where they burned the flag. The common thinking is that were the same thing done to them it would trigger violence and allegations of racism. All the time white people are compared to Nazis invading other countries, and every white person is made out to be responsible for the government policy of removing indiginous children from poor living conditions. We are seeing something of a reenactment of this where police action is interveening in child abuse within the native settlements, a policy that is heavily criticized. It would seem that criticism of white people is allowed more readily than criticism of indiginous people, the thinking being fear of reprocussions both through physical confrontation and throuh calls of racism, but to be fair it could just as easily be trying to keep either side from going too far. Such fear of retalliation also shows in reaction to crimes committed by indiginous people, keeping in mind we do not have something like the LAPD's CRASH task force. Much like the African American and Latin communities where law enforcement are to tread carefully there are places here where it has been known for police to be called out to be ambushed, victims of crime do not report what's happened to them out of fear of reprisal and those who are arrested fuel the race issue with comments such as 'you hate me and are doing this because I'm black.'
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Old 03-01-2008, 11:46 AM   #58
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I believe I may see what part of the problem is...

Most of the black population now are Mexicans or of mexican decent. Many of these Mexicans and/or decendents of mexicans have come to the U.S via illegal immigration, and throughout their lives have known only hardship. If you've ever watched the world's most amazing police videos, you might notice that about 70% of the videos aired on the show, on Spike TV, include black skinned people being arrested for various crimes. Since many mexicans face hardships in the United States if they are illegal immigrants or dencendents of illegal immigrants, some of them, as seen in the police videos, do crazy crimes. However, this is not the real image of the black population in the United States, which is likely just as successful as the white population, and also to note, white people do all that crazy stuff too. It's just that when a black person will watch a show with police videos like that, it often gives them the wrong idea about the racial status of black skinned people. Also to note, as you may have noticed, many black people are rappers, and due to that, many black people are unfairly discriminated as being mostly gangsters and criminals. The problem simply is the way the media and entertainment buisnesses portray the black population often leads to them thinking that white skinned people are being racist towards them. And in order to solve that problem, it would help if the media and entertainment people would air shows showing many blacks being just like the white people they show on TV as being really nice, non-gangster like people and such. For example, movies, such as: City of Men, First Sunday, We own the night, American Gangster, and many more movies portray black people badly. I'm no racist, and I am white, but I completely understand why this university mentioned got so upset about racism.


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Old 03-01-2008, 02:33 PM   #59
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Yeah, and Star Wars depicted Lando Calrissian as being a Lady's Man, thus enforcing stereotypes. You know, Big Trouble in Little China depicted Asians as being Magic-Wielding, further enforcing a stereotype of Asians as being occultists. Furthermore, Lo Pan was Asian.

Good grief.

If every race was as sensitive as the Vocal Black Community (Read: Al Sharpton) then nobody could say or do anything for five minutes without someone accusing them of being racists.

Also, American Gangster is based on a true story. Most of it actually happened.
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Still, even though that movie is based on a true story, many people think that is how all black people are in American Gangster, the way it depicts the black people as being gangsters just gives people the wrong idea...


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Old 03-01-2008, 04:26 PM   #61
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I believe I may see what part of the problem is...

Most of the black population now are Mexicans or of mexican decent.
The US census actually includes most hispanics as "white" which is technically correct since most latin americans are more directly related to Spanish or Portuguese Europeans than to the indigenous tribes or africans.

Which is not really my point, as the US census does not include hispanics, ie: mexicans and other latin countrymen below the border, with black. "Black" is almost purely for people who are distintly of african descent, some Jamacian, and anyone else who's not hispanic, asian, or white.

However, I do agree in general with the rest of your statement, that the portrayal of blacks(and most minorities) in the media is not positive. But this is not merely a white-media problem, for examples: The George Lopez show is pretty much the same sort of family-sitcom you get with people of any race. The characters are the same molds, just not white.

Ever watched BET(Black Entertainment Television)? They're not helping themselves, it presents a terribly stereotyped portrayal of blacks. There's no stuff about blacks acheiving high in education, politics, or anything outside hip-hop, rap, or sports.


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Old 03-01-2008, 05:08 PM   #62
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No doubt they would all say.."don't shoot the messenger". Perhaps, though, they should send a different message altogether. I always find it interesting that there is this knee jerk reaction that violence in the media is corrupting, but the glamorization of sex, drugs, misogyny, etc.. are merely realistic portrayals of people's behaviors that don't have an impact on that behavior. Perhaps if the media and pop culture made greater efforts to portray positive achievements by minorities, it might eventually take root. Not a panacea, mind you, but a definite step in the right direction.


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I think it is sad that we have the racial stereotypes of rappers, gangsters, criminals who either through their own actions or through the media are representated of all black people, all people of a particular race or color. Not all African Americans are pimp drug suppliers but the media image is this is something of a stereotype. And what makes things worse is that some do nothing to help bring a positive image. The same as race gangs seem content to continue to push the stereotype of the people their skin color represents a number of those who are meant to be pushing for equality wear their racism (say a black man's racism against white people) on their sleeve, which harms their cause rather than helps it.
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Hi, I'm black.
Gangs are about power and money. Race isn't really a factor either way.
Why is this topic back?
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Interesting. Just saw a documentary where they were talking about how hispanics could be part of black gangs till fairly recently. I think that race is part of of the equation b/c it adds an element of shared identity. Btw, not saying they said the exclusion was universal, but at least relevant to things like crips and bloods. How many African Americans are part of MS13?


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Why is this topic back?
Because it needs to be discussed.

I'm white, and being branded a racist pisses me off, does that in fact make me a racist for not excepting my role as a racist?



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Old 03-02-2008, 06:14 PM   #67
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Why's this topic back? Because as uncomfortable as it may be the issue of white racism, black people being racist against white people, must be addressed if we are to work towards equality and reconciliation.
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It's back b/c, like abortion/religion/politics/etc.. people never truly tire of these issues.


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Why's this topic back? Because as uncomfortable as it may be the issue of white racism, black people being racist against white people, must be addressed if we are to work towards equality and reconciliation.
Or, maybe, we shouldn't bother about equality and reconciliation and just bury the hatchet? There is no reason to break open old wounds in order to try to 'heal' them, it just doesn't work. If we 'forget' the issues for the time being, and redirect our resources to more fruitful adventures, the world would be a better place.

We got better things to worry about than try and heal centuries of racial tensions. Like the rise of enemy world powers, global warming, the resurgence of slavery, the national debt...


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I would love that, I would love for us to leave the past in the past. Sadly people on both sides of the conflict raise the issue, it is very much something that is always in our face in my country because indiginous people are given compensation for white settlement, for feeling they are victimized by policy of removing children from poor conditions. We as a country give land back, we make white people to blame for what is done to black people and pass on the sins of the father from generation to generation. White people living today are made responsible for crimes indiginous people lay at them, they are made to apologize and yet they still demand more land, more compensation, that what has been done for them is not enough.
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We can't leave the past alone - it isn't a sequence of static, immutable past actions - it is an ongoing causative chain with effects here and now - from Qadesh to First Crusade to Stalingrad, all still have there effects today.



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Actually, Poiuy, Arabs are a race, and so are Jews. Not every Jew follows Judaism, and not everyone following Judaism is a Jew.
Let me correct that:

Arabs are an ethnicity, the general categorization based on similar cultural traditions.

A Jew is a religious member, not a race. Judaism is a religious belief. A person coul be an Arab and a Jew but not all Jews are Arab. That is a common misconception of people when they classify Jews as a race. Technically within social science they are not. They are a religious group.
The same thing happened with Hitler and his "master Aryan race." Aryan is actually a language, not the name of a group of people.
See how easy it is to get misconceptions?

The issue of racism cannot be put to rest because it is something that has existed for a long time and will not die out within our lifetime. Sure we have made great strides in terms of equality and justice but the fact is there are still those who cling to those ideals. Funny thing is that while it is a hatred of a particular group, it is based in fear.
People are always afraid of what is different or the unknown. There is reluctance to downright hatred. I could liken it to the example of Green Eggs and Ham but people are not really that simple. We are complex beings capable of rational thought and reasoning, the distinguishment between us and animals. Sometimes it is irrational but that is due to ignorance, stupidity, lack of common sense, you name it.
We keep this topic up because whether we like to admit it or not, it is still out there. Old hatreds die hard and it is hard to change hundreds of years worth of habit.

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I would love that, I would love for us to leave the past in the past.
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We can't leave the past alone - it isn't a sequence of static, immutable past actions - it is an ongoing causative chain with effects here and now - from Qadesh to First Crusade to Stalingrad, all still have there effects today.
Leave the past alone? That's not what I am advocating. I am advocating that we have done enough so that the crisis is already solved, and therefore, if we all agree that it's over and focus on more important events in the past, then we will be fine.


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Leave the past alone? That's not what I am advocating. I am advocating that we have done enough so that the crisis is already solved, and therefore, if we all agree that it's over and focus on more important events in the past, then we will be fine.
Actually, it was more in answer to millinniummany3, who seemed to be advocating just that.



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Old 03-03-2008, 03:11 PM   #75
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Actually, Aryans are both a linguistic sub-branch, as well as referring to Indo-Iranians.
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Old 03-03-2008, 04:30 PM   #76
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As a white person, I get frustrated by the current level of racism where All whites are held responsible for what was done in the past. I do get the "you are a racist" treatment as a returning student at Cal State. I am one of the older students, but I was never a racist. My first crush as a child was on a black boy. Black people have always numbered among my friends. My closest friend is black. I have dated black, Hispanic, Asian as well as white. My sister in law is from Guatemala. My mom worked with Meralee Evers during the 60's on the civil rights issue. She (mom) herself grew up as a share croper picking cotton. So, it hurts to be classified as a racist when I never have been one. Between my best friend (Yes, she is black) and me, we are just buddies. Race has no place in our relationship.

Yes, the different races have had poor treatment by the whites and other races, but lets put the idea that all whites are racist where it belongs, In the trash. If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at the ones that are still holding the superior attitude. It goes in all directions, not just white against everyone else.

Reciently, many people in my class jumped all over me for sudgesting that whites are discriminated against too. They were giveing me that guilt card. I was not being politcally correct I guess, when I all I was doing was answering a question the prof. asked. My answer was this issue we are discussing now. Basiclly, that we are being silenced because of "racism" with the "Guilt" card. When I got home I called my friend and asked her to be truthful and tell me if I was in anyway racist. Her reply was "H--- No!" It is a topic in our conversations, because I am confronted so often with the "hatred" of all things white.

I hope someday soon, our county can get past this cloud that is hovering over. I would like to get on with the idea of equality and everyone being treated on their own merit, not what someone's great, great, great, great .........grand parents neighbor did.

Take a look at our history. The first settlers to come here came to get away from discrimination. (religious) And one of them was my ansestor. I found him in my college text. He was a Puritan of the Massachusetts Bay Colony. (I knew his name before, but spoted his name and work in the text. It was fun to see the words of my g.g.g.g.....grand parent and what others said about him.)
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The way I look at it, if you don't want to leave the issue of race and want to keep dredging it up, then let's look at the issue, but part of the issue is white racism as well. How indiginous people lay charges against white people, or play the race card and say how they had been victimized to get their way.
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Old 03-03-2008, 06:37 PM   #78
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There'd be no black comedians if we all stopped hating on each other, what would they talk about?

I don't mind being called a Racist Cracker, if it's in the right context...


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Old 03-03-2008, 08:13 PM   #79
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The way I look at it, if you don't want to leave the issue of race and want to keep dredging it up, then let's look at the issue, but part of the issue is white racism as well. How indiginous people lay charges against white people, or play the race card and say how they had been victimized to get their way.
That is a sad part of playing the race card. Nothing ticks me off more than when I see that card played on NBC's Law and Order. While not accurate per se it has only fed my impression that the worst predators out there are not the murderers and rapists but the defense attorneys. Hell I admit that is a bias and I know that they are 'just doing their job' but please. Sometimes it has no bearing on the the case at hand and yet it is played.

Also there has to be the context that is taken into account. We laugh like hell at comedians who poke fun at other groups but they are not intending to be offensive. Let me take an example: Jeff Dunham, the ventriloquist. He has a puppet called Walter that is virtually the crabby ole fart that is not PC. One of his acts that he did he had the puppet say that he got the brothers laughing but the cracker was pissed off and they were all laughing like hell. Get this, Jeff is white. The point is that we have double standards whether we like or not regarding race. The comedic turn is one that seems to not offend as much because it is said in the way not to offend. So really it is an ongoing issue mainly because we tend to 'help' it along the way.

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Old 03-03-2008, 09:40 PM   #80
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The shame of it is that "doing their job" often has less to do with procuring justice and more with putting another courtroom victory on the notches in their belts. One of the problems with the racism "game" is that if someone from a subgroup doesn't get something (job/etc..) that goes to a member of another group, then that somehow becomes prima facie evidence that they're the victim's of racism. Since there could never be another reason. It's also a very lucrative game, not to mention a power trip in a pc type of society.


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