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Old 01-28-2008, 10:36 PM   #1
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Will we ever achieve world peace?

Will we ever achieve world peace, happiness of all mankind, all problems solved, etc, etc? I doubt it myself... lookignt hough all these threads and watcing CNN it just seems like the world keeps gettign worse and worse...
Your thoughts? Ideas on how to unite/fix the world?


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Old 01-28-2008, 10:51 PM   #2
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Its impossible, I think. Simply the fact that humans are fallible and corruptible reduces all possibility of it ever happening. And, as a side point, I don't think that the world has really changed much - people have been acting the same way for thousands of years.
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Old 01-28-2008, 10:55 PM   #3
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We will all achieve peace one day.............the peace of the grave. I concur that the only thing that truly sets up apart from our ancestors is our level of technology. We're basically as dumb as they were, but with bigger guns. ce le vie.


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Old 01-28-2008, 11:02 PM   #4
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^Lol. Now we no longer attack with battering rams, we just hit them with nukes....
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Nope, we will never achieve world peace, we'll just figure out more efficient ways of waging wars.
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Old 01-28-2008, 11:51 PM   #7
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Sure, I think one day we'll achieve world peace. That day is usually referred to as Doomsday or the Armageddon.
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Old 01-28-2008, 11:57 PM   #8
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With the destrution of the earth and all it's life, yes.

otherwise, no.


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Old 01-29-2008, 01:17 AM   #9
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Other than the potential unifying of humanity against and outside threat(and that's not really peace anyway), the only lasting peace we'll have will be the silence after all the atom bombs go off. There are simply too many reasons for people to kill each other, whether they be cultural, religious, or otherwise, people WILL keep killing each other.

If you're narrowly defining World Peace as the lack of wars, I think that could only happen in two specific scenarios: a totalitarian one-world state, or a complete lack of government and the onset of anarcho-capitalism.





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Old 01-29-2008, 01:18 AM   #10
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no one has any ideas as to how to do this without killign all mankind...

guess i'll have to make an idea...

What if all the sperate sects of humanity seperated and went to different worlds and left eahc other aloen after we had advnaced enough technology? woudl isolation between the different sects of us work?


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Old 01-29-2008, 01:35 AM   #11
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Sorry John, Even Anarchistic societies would have warlords. AnarchoCapitalists would have warring corporations(Shadowrun?).

Arcesious: Pretty much the only way to keep wars from happening would be to give each person his own planet, and no way to reach or attack the other planets. Then we might still have wars of words haha
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Unfortunately, I don't think that there can be world peace, mainly because it is in our nature to...fight, sin, wage war, sometimes kill, own, destroy, ect, ect. IMO, the only time that we (as a world) will come into peace is when Jesus Christ returns.

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Old 01-29-2008, 06:45 AM   #13
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World peace, prrffft.

What's with those other species fighting over territories and stuff? It's in the nature of almost every species to fight over these things. It's an important strategy for surviving. And if at all, then it's the humans who would be able to overcome this. Not some ants or primates.

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What if all the sperate sects of humanity seperated and went to different worlds and left eahc other aloen after we had advnaced enough technology? woudl isolation between the different sects of us work?
Nope. However, what would work is to take those people and force their own stuff and what they do down their own throats, so hard and so long until they start laughing. Then continue because they are laughing. And when they laughed so hard that every last bit of ignorance and aggression run out of their behinds, sew it close, so it won't come back.


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And if at all, then it's the humans who would be able to overcome this. Not some ants or primates.
Seems it's too late for that, the bonobo chimps apears to have found a way: have sex not war


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Old 01-29-2008, 07:24 AM   #15
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Will we ever achieve world peace, happiness of all mankind, all problems solved, etc, etc?
No. It's in our nature to destroy ourselves.

Racism, poverty and war will exist as long as Homo Sapiens breathes on this planet.

World peace will happen when the human race is dead.

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What if all the seperate sects of humanity separated and went to different worlds and left each other alone after we had advanced enough technology? would isolation between the different sects of us work?
No, because separation breeds differences, differences create problems in understanding, lack of understanding makes people scared, scared people kill each other.

I suppose a solution like the Borg would work. One where we have no individualism.


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Old 01-29-2008, 04:39 PM   #17
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The only way our race will ever be pacified is if we willingly use artificial means to deny our own ability to think freely. And that really wouldn't be a good thing.


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Old 01-30-2008, 02:43 AM   #18
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World peace can be reached by only two means.

1. The destruction of mankind.
2. Greed is eventually wiped out of our emotional bank in the human mind.


Either way, the factor of greed and power is removed allowing for the likelihood of death, destruction, and otherwise general chaos to be a thing of the past.


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Old 01-30-2008, 10:20 AM   #19
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Well, don't forget some of the other 6 (lust,anger,vanity, jealousy..), Sithy.


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Old 01-30-2008, 10:26 AM   #20
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I try not to predict the future, but I'd guess that a world peace treaty wouldn't last the time the ink took to dry.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't try, though.



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Old 01-30-2008, 03:39 PM   #21
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ACtually Peace is a minset. So technicakky there is peace even as we drop bombs and send pieces of sharp metal thru some unfortunate folks, and vice versa.

Ok, other than that. Just say NO to World peace. It is just silly.
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Old 01-30-2008, 05:05 PM   #22
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We can't even decide if Fluffy the Wonderpet should live or be put out of our misery. I have no hope for world peace given the nature of humanity.


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I would like to believe that humans will continue to evolve and one day in the distant future world peace could become a reality. Maybe that is just the overly optimistic side of me coming out, but I do hope that it would be possible without the complete annihilation of mankind. Although the only way I can see it happening now is like John Galt wrote from an outside influence like an alien attack or a catastrophic natural disaster that forced us to work together for mutual survival. The only reason it would be possible is to have an abundance of natural resources (land, energy, food) to eliminate greed (as pointed out by El Sitherino) and the only way I see that possible is by some type of disaster that devastated the population.

Hey, anything is possible I’m sure ancient man would be surprised to see how well the inhabitants of a nation can get along compared to tribes battling it out for supremacy. Of course, in parts of the world it would still look extremely familiar to him.


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Actually, I think that would only work for a time. Eventually people would revert to their fractious ways. 5000+ years of recorded history is proof. Short of genetic or technological manipulation of whole populations, I don't much see any change in human nature for millenia to come.


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Let the machines control the world while we feed their batteries inside cryo tubes with our perfect, false and virtual lives each...

Or just wait for Morpheus.


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Old 01-30-2008, 10:43 PM   #26
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Let the machines control the world while we feed their batteries inside cryo tubes with our perfect, false and virtual lives each...

Or just wait for Morpheus.
I actually laughed at this

Anyway I doubt that world peace is achievable. Like the Simpson's has told us if we have World Peace aliens will come and see that the world is finally defenseless and will take over the world


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Old 01-30-2008, 10:54 PM   #27
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Alternately, we may achieve a semblance of World Peace after the Fourth Empire arises and conquers the entire planet.
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It has been achieved. Ta da:




If we found a source of free energy, peace may be possible.

Otherwise I'd tend to agree with Totenkopf about the necessity of genetic/technological manipulation of the population.


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On no the peas are gettign scuked up in a black hole under the plate!


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If that pun isn't a good enough reason for WWIII, I don't know what is.

Seriously, though, the only kind of world peace I can see happening is a kind of despotic tyranny under a god-emperor.

Which isn't a very bright prospect for the future, if you aren't the god-emperor.



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If that pun isn't a good enough reason for WWIII, I don't know what is.

Seriously, though, the only kind of world peace I can see happening is a kind of despotic tyranny under a god-emperor.

Which isn't a very bright prospect for the future, if you aren't the god-emperor.
Nope, the God-Emperor would become a half-dead corpse in a glass coffin feeding on souls.

But look at the bright side, you can become a space marine.

Or, if you are enlightened enough, join me in the Eye of Terror. The tender love of the Chaos Gods is available to all.
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Let the machines control the world while we feed their batteries inside cryo tubes with our perfect, false and virtual lives each...

Or just wait for Morpheus.
I actually laughed at this
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Old 02-02-2008, 12:37 PM   #35
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If we found a source of free energy, peace may be possible.
I'll use that free energy to destroy nations.

Yes, I can see world peace happening right before me eyes...


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If we found a source of free energy, peace may be possible.
Can this free energy replace gasoline? Electricity, ect. If so , sign me up!

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Yes, one day the world will die, shortly after there will be peace.
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there will never be peace until the world ends, and I think thats the curse of the humans. I think the world will end because of humans, the excessive use of fire, electric, oil etc. Then, as the earth dies, I think peace will be born.

I know I sound weird but you know...


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Can this free energy replace gasoline? Electricity, ect. If so , sign me up!
It's called bio-diesel, cane, natural fuel, whatever.


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I know that, but my key word was free. All of those aren't actually free.

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