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Old 03-20-2008, 07:21 PM   #1
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More Jedi (At the Council)

When the Exile is exiled, the hologram as you can/must view when you leaves Atris' hidden base. Is it possible to add more jedi to the empty chairs, it would be cool to have a full council, like the prequels. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1wc2...eature=related

Also, more species too (if possible), they don't need to have any dialog, just sitting there during the flashback


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Old 03-20-2008, 09:28 PM   #2
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When the Exile is exiled, the hologram as you can/must view when you leaves Atris' hidden base. Is it possible to add more jedi to the empty chairs, it would be cool to have a full council, like the prequels. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1wc2...eature=related

Also, more species too (if possible), they don't need to have any dialog, just sitting there during the flashback
That wouldn't be possible because of the sole reason that you'd need to find those jedi as well. Those on the council are those who you must find. And you can't just say that their dead, because Vash was dead, and you still had to find her.
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Old 03-20-2008, 09:33 PM   #3
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That wouldn't be possible because of the sole reason that you'd need to find those jedi as well. Those on the council are those who you must find. And you can't just say that their dead, because Vash was dead, and you still had to find her.
Vash was thought to be alive, and in cut-content, she was. Others could've died in the Jedi Civil War or something.


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Old 03-20-2008, 09:37 PM   #4
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And remember that Vandar was on the Council, but he died at Katarr, along with Zhar and Dorak and many others.


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And remember that Vandar was on the Council, but he died at Katarr, along with Zhar and Dorak and many others.
Lord was speaking of the Council that exiled the Exile (PC)
Go ahead and add them. But the point of the Exile's quest is to gather the remaining Jedi that remained (Zez-Kai-Ell, Vrook, Vash, Kavar, and Atris). The Exile would have to find the corpses of those Masters.
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Old 03-20-2008, 09:59 PM   #6
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I was getting the idea that Lord2 just wanted to have the jedi sitting there, and not have any relation to the the plot whatsoever.
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:03 PM   #7
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Go ahead and add them. But the point of the Exile's quest is to gather the remaining Jedi that remained (Zez-Kai-Ell, Vrook, Vash, Kavar, and Atris). The Exile would have to find the corpses of those Masters.
No...the Exile would have to find the ones that were still alive--Zez-Kai Ell, Vrook, Vash, Kavar, and Atris.


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Old 03-20-2008, 10:27 PM   #8
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After the trial, T3-M4 shows the current location of each of the surviving masters. Who is to say that for each alien Jedi added to the game, there couldn't be added a picture of those "new" Jedi with the line "Perished at Katarr" or something along those lines?
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No...the Exile would have to find the ones that were still alive--Zez-Kai Ell, Vrook, Vash, Kavar, and Atris.
Yes, but the hologram happened right after the Mandalorian Wars. How can the Hologram say that the extra masters died in the Civil War? The record didn't say Vash was dead, and she was still dead.
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:30 PM   #10
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As far as Atris knew, Vash was alive. In fact, at that point in the game she was.

But Atris knew that all the others died at Katarr--she's the one that sent them there.


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As far as Atris knew, Vash was alive. In fact, at that point in the game she was.

But Atris knew that all the others died at Katarr--she's the one that sent them there.
She didn't send them there. They hoped to find the threat that had been stalking them (Nihilus) and they all died there.
Like I said: Go ahead and put them in. It would probably make less sense then my Kreia mod idea.
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:53 PM   #12
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Atris was the one that set up the Conclave on Katarr. Ask any of the masters about it. They're all surpised that she's alive herself.

And it makes perfect sense--not only were they on the Council, but they all died before K2, so they wouldn't be mentioned in Atris' archive of living Jedi.


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Old 03-21-2008, 08:47 AM   #13
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I'm making a movie so T3 will later metion that all those Jedi died at Katarr. then of course the exile know that they are dead, and don't need to be found.


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Old 03-21-2008, 10:28 AM   #14
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And remember that Vandar was on the Council, but he died at Katarr, along with Zhar and Dorak and many others.
They would have been on Dantooine at the time, methinks, so it would be odd to see them in that scene.

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Old 03-21-2008, 10:42 AM   #15
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That, and that Vrook was the only member of the local Council on Dantooine that was also a member of the High Council on Coruscant, according to the comics. The Jedi Council we see in the first game are in charge of only the enclave on Dantooine. The High Council on Coruscant was in charge of the entire Jedi Order. Vrook was a member of both.


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Old 03-21-2008, 10:43 AM   #16
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Sounds easy enough...I think that I'll take a stab at it.

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Old 03-21-2008, 12:09 PM   #17
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^^ Thank you Ferc Kast.

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Old 03-21-2008, 01:36 PM   #18
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I second that to thank you, Ferc.

Hmmm.. I like your name, is it from the KOTOR name generator?


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Old 03-21-2008, 04:52 PM   #19
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@Topic: I have all the seats filled; However, I have to fix their "Orientation". Most of them are currently facing their chairs.


@Lord2: Kast is from the KotOR Name Generator...Ferc was an original name that I used for a fan fic.



EDIT: I fixed the Orientation...I just have fix the dialog file, then I'll test it to check if it works correctly.


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Old 03-21-2008, 08:40 PM   #20
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They would have been on Dantooine at the time, methinks, so it would be odd to see them in that scene.
Zhar and Dorak, certainly, but Vandar was a member of the High Council, and that seemed like one important meeting.

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That, and that Vrook was the only member of the local Council on Dantooine that was also a member of the High Council on Coruscant
See above.

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@Topic: I have all the seats filled; However, I have to fix their "Orientation". Most of them are currently facing their chairs.

EDIT: I fixed the Orientation...I just have fix the dialog file, then I'll test it to check if it works correctly.[/color]
Ah, I thank you as well. Who'd you put in there?


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Old 03-21-2008, 08:40 PM   #21
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If possible, could you just create a blank camera view looking at their face, or just one.. but they don't have to say something (like Zez-kai ell at 22 seconds.. video, first post)

Because I'd love to get a dialog (i'll fix the rest myself) from them. Just would do great for my movie.

EDIT:By the way.. in the video I posted, does somebody here knows where he got the robes for each master? I know it's a mod.. but I can't find it.


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Old 03-21-2008, 08:51 PM   #22
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Ah, I thank you as well. Who'd you put in there?
There's Master Zhar, Master Dorak, Master Vandar and four custom-skinned characters:
  • A Female Twi'lek (Master Aria) -reskin of the blue female Twilek
  • A Human Male (Master Kortu) - reskin of Deadeye
  • A Male Devaronian (Master Minn) -reskin of Devaronian
  • A Human Female (Master Ora) -reskin of Shaleena

I just played through the cutscene (without adding the new dialog). I apparently was wrong in my coordinates for the chairs (the new Council members aren't sitting on the chairs all the way)...Could someone PM me the coordinates from right in front of the soon to-be-filled chairs? (I do have the Orientation set correctly, however.)

EDIT: @Below -I used something similiar to that...but I was off by a little bit.


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Old 03-22-2008, 06:15 AM   #23
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Well you'd need the WhereamI armband and use the simple "warp" command to whichever module the council scene uses.

But I don't know which one that is...



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Old 03-22-2008, 11:26 AM   #24
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If possible, could you just create a blank camera view looking at their face, or just one.. but they don't have to say something (like Zez-kai ell at 22 seconds.. video, first post)
Can't you just warp there and look at them in first person? This mod seems very interesting though.


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Nope, warping just takes you to the cutscene.


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There's Master Zhar, Master Dorak...
Those two wouldn't be there as they were not members of the High Council.

Do the comics say anything about who was on the High Council at that time?


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Maybe they got transfered to dantooine at their own request, because of what happened there with the Exile?


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Old 03-22-2008, 09:50 PM   #28
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Do the comics say anything about who was on the High Council at that time?
I just looked and found out the following from here:
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Many of the Councilors at Dantooine were on the High Council.
I'm taking Wookieepedia's word for it since only canon material is allowed on its' site...or so they say.

@Topic: I'm still fixing their coordinates in front of the empty chairs.

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well when you have visas with you she says that she felt vash die shortly after you got there


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Old 03-22-2008, 10:23 PM   #30
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Nope, warping just takes you to the cutscene.
If you warp to an in-game cutscene, you can end it by typing "warp" and then a module name that DOESN'T exist. It'll exit out of the cutscene dialog.


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Ah, it worked! Thanks for the tip!

EDIT: Well, now that I know that (and thus can get coordinates) I'm going to take a shot at it as well. I can't seem to find Dorak or Zhar, though.

EDIT 2: Got it. Some other problems, though.



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Old 03-23-2008, 05:23 PM   #32
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Update: I'm testing one last set of coordinates; Afterwards, I'm going after the dialog & cameras attached to it.

Assuming the worst, I should be done by the end of this week.

EDIT: I fixed the coordinates and Orientations; Now, on to the dialog.


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Old 03-23-2008, 05:30 PM   #33
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For the dialogue, you could have a 'Master X: deceased, killed on Katarr', 'Master Y: deceased, killed on...' You get the idea that way you would explain why the Exile is only going to see Vrook et al... Perhaps you could have your female twilek Master comment that Vandar would be most displeased with the verdict or some such.



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Hehe. Master Vandar disagreed, and he died. Why couldn't you find any masters who want you to be a jedi?


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I made the dialog; But, the program(Kristy Kistic's dialog editor program) keeps closing on me whenever I try to save...Any suggestions as to what I should do?

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I made the dialog; But, the program(Kristy Kistic's dialog editor program) keeps closing on me whenever I try to save...Any suggestions as to what I should do?
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Sounds like a really weird problem, but I hope you have solved it by now. If not maybe Jonathan's link is worth a try...


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There's Master Zhar, Master Dorak, Master Vandar and four custom-skinned characters:
  • A Female Twi'lek (Master Aria) -reskin of the blue female Twilek
  • A Human Male (Master Kortu) - reskin of Deadeye
  • A Male Devaronian (Master Minn) -reskin of Devaronian
  • A Human Female (Master Ora) -reskin of Shaleena

I just played through the cutscene (without adding the new dialog). I apparently was wrong in my coordinates for the chairs (the new Council members aren't sitting on the chairs all the way)...Could someone PM me the coordinates from right in front of the soon to-be-filled chairs? (I do have the Orientation set correctly, however.)

EDIT: @Below -I used something similiar to that...but I was off by a little bit.
add a sullastun and duros
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What about adding a few jedi just standing in the back ground?

I mean, this is a jedi suspected of falling to the darkside.


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