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Old 04-04-2008, 07:34 AM   #1
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TFU features two new characters with Darth titles.

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Old 04-04-2008, 08:00 AM   #2
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There in the PS2 only Jedi temple training level (or at least thats what I can tell from the video) they look awesome! and if you noticed when you see them, the ancient Jedi spirit voice-over sounds like Kavar from TSL... I wonder if...


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They look a bit cliché to me.

The alien-exotic-double bladed-sith is something we've seen already (maul?) and the second one just looks insanly like the guy from Episode 3, but with a lightsaber.

No....I don't like them, to be honest.

Whatever happened to unique villains like Jerec and Desann? Each with a good background an motivation. These 'random mini bosses we dump in the temple' don't feel right.

Of course, I could be easily proven wrong if they DO have a nice story, but at first glace they seem for to generic.

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Old 04-04-2008, 09:38 AM   #4
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There in the PS2 only Jedi temple training level (or at least thats what I can tell from the video) they look awesome!
I doubt they'll be PS2 only; i've seen shots of a screen with them in either a Wii or 360 version, so they're probably in all versions.
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Old 04-04-2008, 11:45 AM   #6
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More Darths than Sidious and Vader in the movies era? You've got to be ****ing kidding me.

Looking at the first one makes me want to wretch.


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Old 04-04-2008, 01:10 PM   #7
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If your gonna play it on next gen, you probably won't see them
Yeah, i've just been looking at the site, and It seems that there are five levels not on next gen consoles. Annoying, but that's another matter...

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More Darths than Sidious and Vader in the movies era? You've got to be ****ing kidding me.
That's a very good point, and something I never thought about before. Maybe it's a good thing they're not on next gen consoles, then...

I really hope that they've got a good reason - maybe that they are 'pretenders' to the Dark throne of Sidious's proper Sith Order - which may be the reason you kill them.

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Looking at the first one makes me want to wretch.
That erm, thing, in the top picture is probably another reason i'm thankful I can get the 360 version, and not have to fight Darth Hideous up there.

EDIT: Actually, just looked it up on Wookieepedia. Here's what it says:

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Darth Phobos was a female Theelin Sith Lord from an unknown time period. She wielded a double-bladed lightsaber. According to TheForce.Net, Phobos is "a punk looking female alien with big 80's hair", and appears in Game Pro magazine's May 2008 issue. She will be in the Wii-exclusive Jedi Temple level and a playable character in the Wii-exclusive duel mode.

This may be the "Darth Phobas" who voice actress Kari Wahlgren has claimed to be playing in the game.
So there we have it. And Darth Desolus:

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Darth Desolous was a Pau'an Sith who fought the Secret Apprentice inside the ruins of the Jedi Temple as part of a metaphysical test. This character was first mentioned on Leland Chee's blog in 2006, where his name was said to be inspired by the word desolate.

In March 2008, an advance review of the game The Force Unleashed described Desolous as a Sith Lord who the Secret Apprentice fights to earn Darth Vader's approval. This review also states that Desolous may also possibly be of the Pau'an species. A second review, a few weeks later, announced that the character is the first-level Boss in the Wii version of the game, located in the decayed Jedi Temple on Coruscant, but spelled the character's name "Desolus".

An image of Desolous, apparently from a German TV program,was posted online in March 2008. This depiction of Desolous is likely to be broadly accurate, as the same image also includes a picture of Darth Phobos, whose appearance has now been confirmed from one of the advance reviews.

According to a fan who has attempted to translate the dialogue, the same German TV clip also claims that Desolous is a former Jedi, and that he was trained as a Sith by the holocron of Darth Phobos. This resembles the way that XoXaan trained Darth Krayt.

By taking a Darth name, Desolous appears to have challenged the Rule of Two embodied by Palpatine and Darth Vader.
If he's trained by Phobos, would that mean he's a Wii only character?
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Old 04-04-2008, 08:48 PM   #8
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They look a bit cliché to me.

The alien-exotic-double bladed-sith is something we've seen already (maul?) and the second one just looks insanly like the guy from Episode 3, but with a lightsaber.

No....I don't like them, to be honest.
I agree. It's something we've seen before. They don't look that cool, anyway. Especially Phobos' design is bad, IMO.
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Looking at the first one makes me want to wretch.
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They look a bit cliché to me.

The alien-exotic-double bladed-sith is something we've seen already (maul?) and the second one just looks insanly like the guy from Episode 3, but with a lightsaber.

No....I don't like them, to be honest.
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I definately don't like the first one. The second one just seems out of place. Essentially, I don't like either of them.

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Old 04-05-2008, 09:32 AM   #10
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Why smiley face, then?


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Old 04-05-2008, 09:54 AM   #11
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Not the best choices but not enough to ruin a game. The guy at lucas are kinda running out of idea.
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Old 04-05-2008, 11:08 AM   #12
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Not the best choices but not enough to ruin a game. The guy at lucas are kinda running out of idea.
I find it strange, since everything I've seen so far about TFU concerning the characters seems to be great. No uninspired characters, but well-designed ones... until these two.
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Old 04-05-2008, 11:20 AM   #13
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Plus, storywise it's a stupid choice to put them there....

These guys know how to wield a saber, just took the name Darth, AT Coruscant, and live in the Jedi temple? I mean....they are NOT part of Sidious order (who would fry Vader alive if he knew about the new Darth, the apprentice) since he believes in the rule of two.
In my opinion, naming yourself Darth, live next to a tyrant who HATES other Sith then himself and his apprentice and walk around a Jedi Temple which Palpatine surely oversees doesn't seem the best place to hide or plan an attack. It's more like...suiicide?

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Plus, storywise it's a stupid choice to put them there....

These guys know how to wield a saber, just took the name Darth, AT Coruscant, and live in the Jedi temple? I mean....they are NOT part of Sidious order (who would fry Vader alive if he knew about the new Darth, the apprentice) since he believes in the rule of two.

In my opinion, naming yourself Darth, live next to a tyrant who HATES other Sith then himself and his apprentice and walk around a Jedi Temple which Palpatine surely oversees doesn't seem the best place to hide or plan an attack. It's more like...suiicide?
I don't think that Darth Phobos is actually alive - see the quotes I posted - they mention that her holocron taught Desolus, meaning she lived in a different time, and is most likely dead.

It wouldn't surprise me if they're just characters that are part of the Wii's multiplayer system - just to add a bit of variety.

Desolus is the only one who's alive at the time - my guess is the Jedi Temple level for the Wii involves holograms of opponents - sort of like a training room. But, that said, she doesn't look like a hologram...
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Old 04-05-2008, 11:53 AM   #15
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More Darths than Sidious and Vader in the movies era? You've got to be ****ing kidding me.
And that will be enough. Bad idea, LA.


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Old 04-05-2008, 01:22 PM   #16
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Maybe adding extra Jedi would have been a good idea. Mace says himself the sith were wiped out.I can see there being Sidious and his apprentice, Maul, but as soon as he loses him he goes after Annakin and succeeds. Maybe Vader having a apprentice isn't that bad but to add more sith into the story is retarded. Since when is the ever more than one villain in one story?
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Old 04-05-2008, 02:12 PM   #17
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The first one looks like soem Dark Eldar Wyches.

Personally I don't mind having a few Darths as long as they are just historical characters available in some of the extra/multiplayer modes. Yes even if its Darth Caedus and Krayt and Darth Darth Binks. But this would be utterly stupid if its a story character.
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Old 04-05-2008, 02:47 PM   #18
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Why smiley face, then?
I was trying to be polite.

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Old 04-06-2008, 07:45 PM   #19
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The bottom one looks Utapauian.

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agreed, its the model from EP3 but with a red Lightsaber


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Old 04-07-2008, 05:14 AM   #21
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agreed, its the model from EP3 but with a red Lightsaber
What's that mean exactly? He's not the same 'model', he's the same species. Of course he's going to look the same, just as all wookiees are around 8ft tall with fur. I'd be very annoyed if LA said that it was anything but a Pau'an.
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Old 04-07-2008, 06:02 AM   #22
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Don't get too stressed, I mean its an utapaun guard from ep3, boots shield and all, no difference in outfit or anything, thats all, I dont love or hate it just a comment on his likeness, and I know all about wookiees thank you


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Old 04-07-2008, 06:05 AM   #23
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Sorry, don't know what came over me lol

I tend to get annoyed by things like that, don't know why
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Well, If there included only in a MP mode that would be great. MP mode can never have enough characters to unlock and play as. Thats the only part I hated about EP3 game.
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Well, If there included only in a MP mode that would be great. MP mode can never have enough characters to unlock and play as. Thats the only part I hated about EP3 game.
No, they must also have balance, othewise, it can kill the MP mode.


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This content exists in the PS2 and Wii version of the game, but I have no doubt that it will inevitably become available for download on 360 via XBox Live.


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Well at least they don't seem to be too integral to the story... though it does seem like they'll lessen the enjoyment during one of the extra levels.

Also, I think Darth Desolus is kind of a lame name.


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Also, I think Darth Desolus is kind of a lame name.
it is certainly something i've never heard before!! poke poke


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Wookieepedia states that they are Sith spirits that the SA has to fight as a part of his trials in the Jedi Temple, but the source link wasn't working for me.

Edit: Come to think of it, the background of the image of the first Sith does look remarkably Jedi-Temple-ish.

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Game Trailers TV revealed that there will be more character than these. Looks purty gangsta

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More Darths than Sidious and Vader in the movies era? You've got to be ****ing kidding me.

Looking at the first one makes me want to wretch.
These Sith are originally from either the KOTOR or New Sith Wars era. It is simply Force phantoms/holocrons that the Apprentice encounters.

Quite frankly, either one of these Sith would be good villains for KOTOR 3.
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Quite frankly, either one of these Sith would be good villains for KOTOR 3.
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Desolus, the Pau'an, definately wouldn't - their species only became known the galaxy at large in 50ABY.

And I haven't got an argument for keeping Phobos out of it - cept she's hideous
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He can be some outcast propelled out to the wild wild galaxy for any reason from joining a temporarily grounded adventurer ship, to being picked up and transfered by the giant iron fist in the sky...
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Thank god for the 360 version.
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Thank god for the 360 version.
.....and why is that....?


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Cause not only will it look beautiful, those of us with 360s (or PS3s, for that matter), will get the benefit of DMM and Euphoria - which is something that the other platforms won't benefit from.
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Cause not only will it look beautiful, those of us with 360s (or PS3s, for that matter), will get the benefit of DMM and Euphoria - which is something that the other platforms won't benefit from.

ohhh....i didn't know that....so does that mean that the wii version won't look that good? will it be even half-good??



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I'm not entirely sure, I haven't heard much about the Wii version - but I know that the studio working on it is developing a system similar to DMM and Euphoria.

While it won't look as polished as it will on the 360 of PS3, i'm sure it will look pretty good
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