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Old 06-06-2008, 04:53 PM   #1
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Backwards Lightsaber

Am I the only one who is bothered by the fact that the Apprentice holds his lightsaber backwards? I really wish he would hold it normally because it looks better that way.
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Old 06-06-2008, 04:56 PM   #2
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If he holds it normally, the player won't be able to see it from a third-person perspective.


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Old 06-06-2008, 05:03 PM   #3
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Holding a lightsaber normally isn't new and edgy enough. Didn't you get the memo?
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Old 06-06-2008, 05:07 PM   #4
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You're not the only one, but I do not understand why this bothers people.


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Old 06-06-2008, 05:39 PM   #5
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Probably because it just feels like a change for the sake of change.
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Old 06-06-2008, 06:25 PM   #6
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I can understand that... but the fact that it's backwards alone doesn't bother me. I've seen other posts where people are legitimately bothered by the fact that it's backwards.


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Old 06-06-2008, 07:05 PM   #7
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I think the conventional way looks better, that's all I'm saying.

I wont feel any differently about the game because of it (there are much better things like the lack of content for the Next Gen Consoles to worry about), I wont lose sleep over it either, I just think it looks dumb.
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Old 06-06-2008, 07:09 PM   #8
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Sorry if it came across this way, Fortune, but I really didn't intend to criticize your viewpoint. I was really speaking about an earlier thread on the topic where people seemed genuinely upset by it.


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Old 06-06-2008, 08:20 PM   #9
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There's another topic a little down this one commenting on the "fancy" way the Apprentice holds his saber. I shall repeat my comment there: People, you're way to orthodox.


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Old 06-06-2008, 10:42 PM   #10
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Old 06-06-2008, 10:55 PM   #11
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Personally I like an accurate representation of Shien, lol (not like kotor where changing styles just changes stats).
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Old 06-07-2008, 12:27 AM   #12
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I like it, I think it looks cool. But I'll have to wait and see how it looks and plays in-game, though. Still, I think it'll be great.


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Old 06-07-2008, 12:40 AM   #13
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The form is called "Shien" and I like it better, mainly because it isn't used in any other game that I know of


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Old 06-10-2008, 10:20 PM   #14
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I think it looks pretty tight, it's a good way to break the mold as far as lightsabers go.

Plus it's pretty much bad ass.


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Old 06-10-2008, 10:52 PM   #15
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I agree - I think it looks cool too and I think it adds an element of the Apprentice being an arrogant bada$$.


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Old 06-10-2008, 11:02 PM   #16
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It really doesn't bother me. I think that it is pretty cool actually. It is different. Starkiller is a different kinda guy I guess. To me, he really isn't 'conventional'.

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Old 06-10-2008, 11:57 PM   #17
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It's awesome, no one else uses Shien as their primary form, I love Shien, whenever I'm having a saber fight with a friend I try to use Shien, it's fun, and hard...


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Old 06-11-2008, 01:36 PM   #18
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I think it's something new and kinda cool, edgy, ya know? If you think of the first time you saw Darth Maul's dual lightsaber, and thought "Oh cool, I hadn't thought of that" Or Dooku's curved hilt, it's not traditional, but neither is the SA. He's unleashed, a bit rough around the edges, and I think it was very fitting to have a new force 'wrecking ball' come out with a badass way of holding his saber.

that being said, I can see how it would bother some... just the same way not being able to dual wield is bothering some.
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Old 06-11-2008, 03:01 PM   #19
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Yeah, it's new, it's cool, it's different, it's Vader's Secret Aprentice...


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Old 06-15-2008, 08:32 AM   #20
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I like it, its aggresive and it fits the apprentice's character well.


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Old 06-15-2008, 01:14 PM   #21
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It's a personal style. We see a lot of different styles all over the movies and Expanded Universe (Count Dooku being particularly noteworthy), so Starkiller's style doesn't bother me one bit.


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Old 06-15-2008, 03:18 PM   #22
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that being said, I can see how it would bother some... just the same way not being able to dual wield is bothering some.
despite the fact that jar'kai is my favorite style, the fact that you can't do it in this game still doesn't bother me. XD

SA's shien looks too cool for disappointment
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:07 AM   #23
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Holding a lightsaber normally isn't new and edgy enough. Didn't you get the memo?
He's only expecting to get enemies from behind. With his uber-coolness radiating so strongly, no one would dare attack from the front.


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Old 06-18-2008, 04:58 PM   #24
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He's only expecting to get enemies from behind. With his uber-coolness radiating so strongly, no one would dare attack from the front.
OR...his eyes shoot Force Death-Beams! XD
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Old 06-18-2008, 06:23 PM   #25
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Old 06-18-2008, 11:02 PM   #26
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It doesn't bother me, but I do wonder: What possible advantage is there to holding your lightsaber like that? I mean, yeah, you can hold your lightsaber any way you want and call it a new form, but how exactly is that helping?


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Old 06-19-2008, 01:04 AM   #27
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It doesn't bother me, but I do wonder: What possible advantage is there to holding your lightsaber like that? I mean, yeah, you can hold your lightsaber any way you want and call it a new form, but how exactly is that helping?
it has the element of mystery. not many people use Shien as a primary style, so not many would know how to counter it well either. keeping your opponent guessing is half the battle.
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Old 06-19-2008, 01:32 AM   #28
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I personally think it's kinda cool to have the change. I would be a little unconventional in my saber holding if i was that powerful

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If he holds it normally, the player won't be able to see it from a third-person perspective.
In JK, JK2, JA, BF2 (I cant think of any more at the moment) the 3rd person perspective shows the lightsaber.

Believe it or not, it is a bit more defensive with a different attack style added. It also is a way to hold a sword (anyone seen equilibrium. I know it's not real but the idea for such a grip had to come from somewhere)

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Old 06-19-2008, 02:09 PM   #29
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it has the element of mystery. not many people use Shien as a primary style, so not many would know how to counter it well either. keeping your opponent guessing is half the battle.
I agree. The imprevisibility of the form is it's strong point.


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Old 06-19-2008, 02:40 PM   #30
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It's different, it bugs just a little, because I don't know how he'll swing I love to watch Shien in use when fighting with friends, because they always hit something sensative I'm curious to see how'l he'll swing and fight...


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Old 06-24-2008, 11:09 PM   #31
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Old 06-28-2008, 08:06 AM   #32
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I think he is a Shien user - after all, Vader is his master, and as Anakin he was most proficient in Form V.
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Old 07-06-2008, 12:46 PM   #33
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If he holds it normally, the player won't be able to see it from a third-person perspective.
If I am correct the Jedi Knight games were in 3rd person and I never had a problem seeing the lightsaber. Regarding the original post, I think they just did it so the SA would stand out, wich I hardly see as a good reason.
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Old 07-06-2008, 03:31 PM   #34
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I didη't claim that it was a good reason. I was simply repeating what one of the game designer persons said[ about it].


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Old 07-06-2008, 09:54 PM   #35
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Standard grip in Wii Version?

Here is a Wii gameplay video that was put out several days ago: http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/88536...ii_070208.html

I'm watching it right now and not seeing the apprentice use the reverse grip, it looks like he is holding his lightsaber like we're used to. TBH I kind of like the reverse grip for him, makes him like "I'm too badass for a normal grip".


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Cool, I bought a wii last week, so I've got 360 and wii versions a comin best of both worlds, Oh yeah thats master Kavar from TSL speakin to the apprentice...


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Old 07-07-2008, 11:05 AM   #37
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I don't know what all the fuss' about.

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I'm watching it right now and not seeing the apprentice use the reverse grip, it looks like he is holding his lightsaber like we're used to. TBH I kind of like the reverse grip for him, makes him like "I'm too badass for a normal grip".
Makes sense. If people are meant to hold the Remote as a saber grip, then the devs must assume that most people won't have training on holding the saber that way.

It's kinda like Twilight Princess. Everyone knows Link is left-handed, though on the Wii version he holds his sword on the right hand, since most people are right-handed.


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Here is a Wii gameplay video that was put out several days ago: http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/88536...ii_070208.html

I'm watching it right now and not seeing the apprentice use the reverse grip, it looks like he is holding his lightsaber like we're used to. TBH I kind of like the reverse grip for him, makes him like "I'm too badass for a normal grip".
That is probably just for the Wii version.

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That is probably just for the Wii version.
That's what I said. People may have some problems holding and shaking the remote the way the Apprentice does.


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