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Old 07-11-2008, 04:43 PM   #41
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Can't see what's so bad about a KOTOR MMO.
Watching 12 year olds, who have all named themselves Revan, fighting over who is the REAL one comes to mind.
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Old 07-11-2008, 04:49 PM   #42
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Watching 12 year olds, who have all named themselves Revan, fighting over who is the REAL one comes to mind.
Revan426 says: I am da ReVAn, noob!

Revan987 says: stfu noob, IM REVAN! stupid haXoR.

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QFE. It is going to be a disaster if that this happens.

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Old 07-11-2008, 06:39 PM   #44
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Alrighty...surprised no one has really posted info on this yet as it looks like some rumors were started last month. Anyway, supposedly Lucasarts laid off about 100 people and they spilled the beans. The only site I can get to is below (at work and all gaming sites blocked for the most part ). Looks like, from this site, KOTOR 3 is an MMO. Please, Please, someone google and see what else you can find....link below.

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Old 07-11-2008, 06:51 PM   #45
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Well we don't know if those rumors are true, though I would tend to believe they are as another leaked title was the Clone Wars game which turned out to be announced shortly after.

As for the problem with everyone running around with the name Revan, a simple fix for that is what Galaxies does. Players aren't allowed to use names that are of important characters, so no Skywalkers, no Vaders and probably no Revans.


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So, we'll get revanisdamasta, r33van and revanator instead?
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Old 07-11-2008, 07:14 PM   #48
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That would suck even worse.
Why? Think NWN.
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Old 07-11-2008, 07:26 PM   #49
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Can't see what's so bad about a KOTOR MMO.
That it wouldn't be KotOR comes to mind.


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That it wouldn't be KotOR comes to mind.
Agreed. I don't mind them making a MMO +/- 1000 years away from Revan-Exile timeline so long as they don't call it KotOR.


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Old 07-11-2008, 09:20 PM   #51
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Why? Think NWN.
Now that would be interesting. After all, Pavlos did report on BioWare releasing the final NWN patch. Maybe BioWare are readying themselves to ramp up a SW-based successor to NWN?

However this would also imply that the game would be for PC's only, as I don't see how a NWN-esque game would work on current consoles. And considering how LucasArts is highly favoring consoles and handhelds these days then IMO chances of this happening are greatly diminished.


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Old 07-11-2008, 09:54 PM   #52
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Well if the game was for consoles, I could maybe see it being for Xbox 360 and then PC but even that's a stretch I think. I would be more surprised if it was for consoles than I would if it was for PC. Obviously it looks like bull**** when they say it but LA has said they aren't abandoning PC and maybe this will be their return to the PC.


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Please God, NOOOOO!
Really now? Actually, I'm cheering at this news prospect.

The term "Old Republic" already takes away a major argument against the whole KOTOR MMORPG thing. It imples that the setting can be moved to wherever. We can have it during the Hutt-Republic Wars, the Mandalorian Wars, the Great Hyperspace War, the even during the aftermath of the eventual True Sith genocide. The Old Republic timeline is very broad, you know?

If Bioware sets "The Old Republic" outside of the KOTOR timeline (which looks rather likely considering that they don't add in the very important "Knights of The" title, it cannot seriously be called the KOTOR MMO, can it? Sure, it'd still be full of lame, but at least we can be certain that the KOTOR series is smothered rather than released as an MMO with the "Exileians" and the "Revanics" factions. Okay, "Daughters of Exileians" and "Sons of Revanics" will arrive instead, but hey, it doesn't hurt to have your ego be glorified.


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Old 07-11-2008, 11:59 PM   #54
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You have a point, there, SS. I take it that you're not a fan of the whole "True Sith" cliffhanger. Though I'm rather neutral on that issue, I would like to see some sort of resolution to the whole Revan/Exile story arc; preferably in a game and not a comic book.


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Old 07-12-2008, 12:02 AM   #55
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Revan234 says: No, I'm revna, my mum says so. U is all just poo.



I hope that was intentional

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Old 07-12-2008, 12:05 AM   #56
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There was some info on features in the "More possibility" thread in the Unkown Regions.

http://www.ahazi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10846

Some random guy posted that though, so I wouldn't take it too seriously at the moment.

I agree with a lot of you. I would like to see a conclusion to the story that has been built up through 2 games.


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I hope that was intentional

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Not quite though...

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Old 07-12-2008, 12:24 AM   #58
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I agree with SS how just The Old Republic part could place the mmo anywhere in that time frame or because Knights of has it's time line kinda set where it is.

I'm not a huge fan if they make KOTOR 3 into an mmo but I wouldn't rule me out on playing it, and I think if you look at the story line they left with KOTOR 2 it's kinda... ideal maybe is the word I want because there's so many things that need doing before the Republic can confront the True Sith(The Jedi Order needs rebuilding which is left to the Exile's companions, The Republic forces by Carth and other, the Mandalorian Armies by Canderous and a bunch of other stuff ( Yes, I am a fan of the idea of fighting the big red dudes)

So I can see how they can make an mmo out of that, but I would much rather have a single-player KOTOR sequel
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Old 07-12-2008, 03:37 AM   #59
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I hope that was intentional

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Yes, Ender, it was intentional. I'm just not very good at emulating the writings of trained chimps.

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Agreed. The KOTOR franchise has built its name on being a single player experience, not some over done MMO experience.






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If it is indeed called "Star Wars: The Old Republic", that doesn't necessarily have to equate as a direct sequel to the KotOR franchise...thus allowing everyone to speculate and fantasize about a true sequel.


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As I said before theres plenty of room to maneuver around the 2 KotOR's, and by definition an MMO called the old republic cannot be a third KotOR, but to be honest if K3 came out and it followed the true sith crap and similar styling's of K2, I dont want it! I dont think I can take another 50 hrs running round an un-familiar galaxy, with my Gamboge colored saber, in my robes of a later time, fighting force wounds and retconns, dreaming of K1


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Old 07-12-2008, 05:48 AM   #62
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As I said before theres plenty of room to maneuver around the 2 KotOR's, and by definition an MMO called the old republic cannot be a third KotOR, but to be honest if K3 came out and it followed the true sith crap and similar styling's of K2, I dont want it! I dont think I can take another 50 hrs running round an un-familiar galaxy, with my Gamboge colored saber, in my robes of a later time, fighting force wounds and retconns, dreaming of K1
I just want a conclusion to the story of Revan and the Exile and everyone else, and I'm sure everyone here does too. I want to experience it myself rather than having to read it in some comic book in a couple years. I wouldn't mind the 50 hours of running around if it meant some conlcusion to the story.


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Old 07-12-2008, 05:59 AM   #63
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Watching 12 year olds, who have all named themselves Revan, fighting over who is the REAL one comes to mind.
Here's a solution: ignore them?

@ED: Of course, it's not even KOTOR already. It's just Star Wars The Old Republic. The only thing it has in common with KOTOR is the era, as of now.
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Here's a solution: ignore them?
I don't know how many MMOs you've played, but even for most sane people it isn't that easy.

When there's about 5,000 of them all doing the same thing at the exact same time cluttering your screen with all the garbage they spit out, it makes gameplay annoying as hell. And, if you have to cooperate with them for some reason (like a quest or item trading), and they're the only ones that can help you with it, it only makes things frustrating even more.

Maybe you can handle it, but most people can't.


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A simple solution is removing the chat capability in the MMO...

I once played Runescape. Peice of crap of a game, what with all the insane people... The only repectable MMO I've ever come accross is alled EVE online.

MMO's are always unreasonably expensive. First, they start you off on you way, and then, a month after the trial, they make a new installment into the game, which makes you want to replay it, because that new installment continues the story in the game. But then you have to pay more money if you want to find out about the new addition to the storyline/ new features & such. So you pay to play, giving it the benefit of a doubt, and, a month later, after you think you've won, they update it again... and so on and so forth... And before you know it, you've forked somewhere between 100 and 200 dollars/euros/whatever to play a game where you had to tolerate the idiocy of children always being annoying. And when it's finally over, the conclusion just doesn't seem near as worth it as you were hoping, because the hard work of hundreds of hours of gameplay with crazy kids has left you in a bad mood.

That's the only future I see with K3, if it's an MMO.


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Most games don't come out with expansion packs after only being on the shelves for a month, if that's what you meant by installments. Where MMOs really get there money is from the monthly fees.

Also, removing the chat capability would be a very senseless decision, because people need to communicate somehow, especially in an MMORPG where it's pretty much mandatory to succeed at many of the games functions. It's really just a matter of the game being able to monitor what gets said to prevent the 12-year-old annoyances. I know there are other programs that could be used to communicate outside the game...but people get overly critical quickly about everything, and removing the chat ability would be one of those things that gets really nagged about, considering its importance in a game of this type.


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There was some info on features in the "More possibility" thread in the Unkown Regions.

http://www.ahazi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10846

Some random guy posted that though, so I wouldn't take it too seriously at the moment.

I agree with a lot of you. I would like to see a conclusion to the story that has been built up through 2 games.
I would take it REALLY seriously. Apart from some info about the gamplay, that guy revealed the title - The Old Republic. A YEAR ago. (message was posted on 07-21-2007). Revealing the title a year before we knew it makes him more reliable than any other "inside info leaker" ever was.


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This leaked on the ether earlier today. The SW-style opening crawl for KO-MMO

It is a period of civil war....
A pack of whiners, striking
from their hidden wankdens,
have won their first victory
against the evil KOTOR MMO.
In a stunning move, and driven
by net-mob-hysteria, a non trial
evaluation based purely on emotional
responses has won the day....


very moving,

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Aw, come on Astro. Tell us how you really feel now.

A check of registered domains shows:
- starwarslegends.com is registered to Paul Baldowski of Boreders in Stockport, Great Britain.
- starwarssagas.com is not registered
- starwarstheoldrepublic.com is registered to CSC Corporate Domains, the same company that maintains registration for the lucasarts.com domain.

That helped clear things up for me.


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*Cries*

Well, it actually doesn't sound half bad, except for the MMO part.

*Cries again*


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I once played Runescape. Peice of crap of a game, what with all the insane people... The only repectable MMO I've ever come accross is alled EVE online.
Galaxies, pre-NGE & CU.

And Guild Wars, if you talk to Inyri, Jae, Niner, Bob, the stoffe...... etc.

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Well you never know... There's a lot of MMOs out there. The majority of them, IMO, are crap. Not saying that the ones you mentioned are bad, but the way it's looking, a K3 MMO will be a disaster to the hardcore SPRPGer.


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^Guild Wars t3h rokczors....untill it got boring...

Anyways, everyone basically called the problem with a Kotor mmo on the spot:
-Kotor is about Jedi.
-About everyone wants to be a Jedi (although I suspect most 'real' fans out here might want to roll another class as well).
-You will need many people. About 90% of them loves Star Wars because it has Jedi. And sabers. And people dying because of the sabers.
-Jedi are the strongest beings in the SW universe.

So we'll have this:
Four respectable roleplayers from Ahto are planning stuff in a cantina. A smuggler, a bounty hunter...a slicer and a mercenary. They are about to make a heist.
Then, 'BurtVader1994' runs in, slices everyone to pieces before shouting: "Saberd. l0lzor."

Conflict between 'action l33t-gamers' and 'rpg-fans' I say...it will be messy. Like it is in Galaxies right now.

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^Guild Wars t3h rokczors....untill it got boring...

Anyways, everyone basically called the problem with a Kotor mmo on the spot:
-Kotor is about Jedi.
-About everyone wants to be a Jedi (although I suspect most 'real' fans out here might want to roll another class as well).
-You will need many people. About 90% of them loves Star Wars because it has Jedi. And sabers. And people dying because of the sabers.
-Jedi are the strongest beings in the SW universe.

So we'll have this:
Four respectable roleplayers from Ahto are planning stuff in a cantina. A smuggler, a bounty hunter...a slicer and a mercenary. They are about to make a heist.
Then, 'BurtVader1994' runs in, slices everyone to pieces before shouting: "Saberd. l0lzor."

Conflict between 'action l33t-gamers' and 'rpg-fans' I say...it will be messy. Like it is in Galaxies right now.
, BurtVader1994. Accurate representation though.

I played Galaxies after the Golden Era, i.e. recently, but couldn't they just do the thing where you have to do a bunch of stuff in order to become a Jedi? Or did no one like that idea? It must have been novel if everyone liked that Galaxies era more than the current one.


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i think the only two reasons no one wants a kotor MMO is that you cant mod it and theres going to be a bunch of people named revan3452 or exile35387 claiming they are the real revan or exile
and that would just suck
and people are always going to put HK47ISMAHROBOT
i view the 'enter your name feature' as an actual star wars name feature and not a false statement feature.
theres a chance they might make the mistake they made in kotor also, which is the robes and lightsabers
we ALL know and agree that the robes were unattractive and the lightsabers were like pipe


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i think the only two reasons no one wants a kotor MMO is that you cant mod it and theres going to be a bunch of people named revan3452 or exile35387 claiming they are the real revan or exile
and that would just suck

Many MMOs have been great without modding...that's not a huge concern for me, LA, and many KotOR fans. It's mostly just the fact that it's MMO. For the naming thing they can just do what Galaxies did and not allow names of important people to be in player names. They also better make it so that you can't use numbers as well...


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overall though, i would enjoy a star wars kotor MMO as long as they dont have kotor 1 robes or lead pipe for lightsaber hilts. and if its free after the first pay
which is unlikely
i really dont like MMO's because of the grind making it impossible for me to get past LVL 14/18
but im hungry so im going to make a breakfeast hot pocket
mmmmmm.......


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I don't think we should assume it's a KotOR MMO. None of the registered trademarks use the word "knights" in them so that leads me to believe that whatever this turns out to be it won't be directly related to the SPRPG KotOR games we've played.

Might I recommend we use the acronym TOR instead of KotOR when referring to this as yet unannounced project?


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I don't think we should assume it's a KotOR MMO. None of the registered trademarks use the word "knights" in them so that leads me to believe that whatever this turns out to be it won't be directly related to the SPRPG KotOR games we've played.

Might I recommend we use the acronym TOR instead of KotOR when referring to this as yet unannounced project?
You're right, it won't be a KotOR MMO. It will be a TOR MMO. In the patent it mentions things like "Entertainment services provided on-line by means of global and local area networks". I'm guessing that's a formality statement so that the patent owner can use any means of online that they want, but any kind of online multiplayer other than an MMO makes no sense, so it's probably a safe bet to assume it's an MMO...


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