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Old 07-22-2008, 06:26 PM   #1
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Knight: MMORPG World Engine

Ok, the Bioware MMORPG is KOTOR. Argue with me if you want; You are in denial.

So, for those of us that are interested in the Knights of the Old Republic MMORPG, this is the game engine and design tools that Bioware is using for this MMORPG.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/starw...59&mode=recent

http://www.heroengine.com/home.asp

Here are a few videos on landscape building.
http://www.heroengine.com/world.asp

Default Character System.
http://www.heroengine.com/charsys.asp

And an interesting addition: Smart objects.
http://www.heroengine.com/objects.asp

This engine is fairly new, and Bioware's KOTOR MMORPG will be the first license for HeroEngine.

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Old 07-22-2008, 06:37 PM   #2
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Ok, i'll admit i pretty much skimmed through it but it's not something i really understood. What stood out to me was the character customization system. Here's to hoping it really is more than select a head and outfit.
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Old 07-22-2008, 07:06 PM   #3
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^ Uh here, here.

Oh, actually it has a full body morphing system. So you'll be able change facial features, body builds and musculature (it can morph the skeleton, too). That's not bad at all.
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Old 07-22-2008, 07:56 PM   #4
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that's pretty sweet

i hope it's used in future RPG's too, not just MMOs...
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:43 PM   #5
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Wow, I really like the character building system!
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Old 07-23-2008, 01:03 AM   #6
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And an interesting addition: Smart objects.
http://www.heroengine.com/objects.as...om/objects.asp
This link doesn't work for me.

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Yes, I guess that you might say that I am in denial about KotOR III being a MMORPG, but I am not here to argue about that at all. :/ It certainly sounds like a very realistic choice for LA/Bioware to use. It all looks pretty good to me. Thanks for the links Avery!

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Old 07-23-2008, 05:08 AM   #7
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Ok, the Bioware MMORPG is KOTOR. Argue with me if you want; You are in denial.

So, for those of us that are interested in the Knights of the Old Republic MMORPG, this is the game engine and design tools that Bioware is using for this MMORPG.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/starw...59&mode=recent

http://www.heroengine.com/home.asp

Here are a few videos on landscape building.
http://www.heroengine.com/world.asp

Default Character System.
http://www.heroengine.com/charsys.asp

And an interesting addition: Smart objects.
http://www.heroengine.com/objects.asp

This engine is fairly new, and Bioware's KOTOR MMORPG will be the first license for HeroEngine.
Great post, I dare say best of the week. I have mixed feelings with middleware, I think that in certain cases middleware can be a good thing (Mass Effect using Unreal 3 engine) or a bad thing (SWG using a retooled Everquest engine).

I just hope that with Bioware being able to save so much time with using this middleware (Up to two years of tool/engine development [See HeroEngine.com]); that they focus heavily on unique gameplay mechanics and storyline/questlines.

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Old 07-23-2008, 08:03 AM   #8
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This link doesn't work for me.

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Yes, I guess that you might say that I am in denial about KotOR III being a MMORPG, but I am not here to argue about that at all. :/ It certainly sounds like a very realistic choice for LA/Bioware to use. It all looks pretty good to me. Thanks for the links Avery!
The link was hyperlinked twice.
http://www.heroengine.com/objects.asp



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Old 07-23-2008, 01:55 PM   #9
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I saw the videos and if this is indeed the engine they use for a KOTOR MMO it should be one of the better looking mmo, the character creation was cool be interesting to see with the different star wars races
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Old 07-23-2008, 03:54 PM   #10
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ill take anything that looks better then WoW and be happy....
Seriously though the engine looks amazing, good feature set and all. I really hope it helps Bioware take off some development time they can then invest on pulling off an impossible MMO with an actual compelling story line.
If they can do that and not make a grind fest as the core system for leveling i could give a rats ass about the graphics. Give my inner nerd the ultimate game!
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Old 07-24-2008, 01:28 AM   #11
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http://www.heroengine.com/objects.asp
Makes sense. Thanks!

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Old 07-24-2008, 10:11 AM   #12
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No information besides confirmation has been released for this game.

Where'd you get these links?
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Old 07-24-2008, 02:46 PM   #13
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well when they make the game to good looking you can have a problem like aoc. nice eyecandy but the game itself sucks. crashes every hour


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Old 07-24-2008, 11:23 PM   #14
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No information besides confirmation has been released for this game.

Where'd you get these links?
probably googled bioware, mmo, and engine or something. it's got a quote from a Bioware developer on one or more pages...
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Old 07-25-2008, 12:46 AM   #15
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Doesn't mean anything.

This game is barely confirmed, let alone the engine confirmed.

Take those links with a massive grain of salt.
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Old 07-25-2008, 01:04 AM   #16
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Er, BioWare has said that's what they're using for their secret MMO project, which I calculate to have a 98% probability of being Star Wars: The Old Republic. 2% probability these meatbags are looking for trouble and need to be blasted. That may be wishful thinking on my part, Master.


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Old 07-25-2008, 01:06 AM   #17
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Nerdy HK reference FTW!
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Old 07-25-2008, 01:22 PM   #18
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Bioware Austin talked about their upcoming MMO and the engine they used back in November of '06

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3155486

People who talk out of ignorance don't look bright, research 1st. then post like the original poster did.
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:28 PM   #19
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Old 07-25-2008, 05:52 PM   #20
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Bioware Austin talked about their upcoming MMO and the engine they used back in November of '06

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3155486

People who talk out of ignorance don't look bright, research 1st. then post like the original poster did.

That was my original intention, actually. To look bright for you.
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Old 07-26-2008, 12:08 AM   #21
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Doesn't mean anything.

This game is barely confirmed, let alone the engine confirmed.

Take those links with a massive grain of salt.
lol

How's that rock you've been living under feel?

... Unless I have trumped by sarcasm, then only my first comment applies, he he. Either way, just poking fun.
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Old 07-26-2008, 06:09 AM   #22
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Getting back to the engine...

The character creation looks pretty good, and the landscape building looks cool too, except didn't BioWare Austin say they're not going to include the latter?

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3155486

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If we're going to create immersive, epic stories that are believable, that really goes against having a simulation-type world. Those two things don't go together well.
Sure, they will be able to use it when they build whatever planets they're using, but it sounds like they're not using it to the fullest extent. Or maybe I'm reading it wrong.


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Old 07-26-2008, 10:03 PM   #23
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i think they're using the tools, but they're not going for a alternate-reality simulation type game like SWG or WOW.
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