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Old 08-11-2008, 09:51 PM   #1
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TSL Content Restoration

Ok this is a new (less cluttered) thread for TSLCR! TSLCR is a mod for TSL, and will serve as a companion mod for M4-78RP and TSLRP.

It's been in constant-ish development for around a year now, and a majority of the content has been restored already, you can catch screens and other previews here.




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- Around 3 hours of restored content including, but not limited to:
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[R] - Restored

[RE] - Restored But Edited
[RM] - Restored But Moved
[NR] - Not To Be Restored
[PR] - Possible Restoration
[TBR - Member] - To Be Restored by Member

Ebon Hawk


[TBR - Zbyl2] Goto threatens Bao-Dur - If the PC knows that Goto is actually G0-T0, then Goto will threaten Bao-Dur that he better take care of the remote before he finds a permanent solution. Presumbly comes before Goto "repairs" the remote himself. Probably removed since the Goto/Remote destruction scene must be triggered and the player may not find out about Goto being a droid.

[R] Disciples Distress Call - Before traveling to Telos, Disciple calls Atris about the impending attack on Telos.
[R]Kreia isn't fond of droids either - After the player has witnessed the message from Bastila/Carth, Kreia, during an entry scene, will blast T3 with some force lightning in anger since the PC seemed to have a fondness for the droid.


Telos

[TBR - Trigger God] Lt. Yimas Mission - Yima, the one Grenn always talks about, was supposed to give the PC a mission to expose a corrupt TSF officer in the Czerka docking bays. Probably connected to the alternate docking bays that can be seen.
[TBR - Pikmin] Bao-Durs return to Citadel Station - Bao-Dur was supposed to take the PC back to Citadel Station and then it'd be there that he'd track the Ebon Hawk to the polar ice cap instead of going through the Czerka base.
[TBR - Zbyl2] Czerka takes control - Czerka was to completely take over the modules, threatening the Ithorian herd. The PC is supposed to get to the communications station and call for help since the TSF can't do anything else. Probably connected to Jana Lorsos lines about taking over Citadel Station due to Onderons succession from the Republic and because of that, Lorso lies to Citadel Station that the Telosian Council has entered an anti-Republic treaty with Onderon.
[TBR - Pikmin] Atton and Bao-Dur take note of surrounding obstacles - Minefields, sentry droids, and mercenaries, Bao-Dur and Atton take note that all are present and that the PC needs to get around them.

[RM] White/Black Corruption - Originally, Atris was supposed to be clad in black robes during the final sequences. As well as the corrupted Handmaidens. Cut since it'd be odd for Atris to conveniently have Sith Robes lying around.
[RM] Come, Last of the Handmaidens - The player was supposed to be the one to kill the Handmaidens and as a result, the Last attacks after killing Atris. Dark side option.

[R] HK-50s congratulate the shooter - After the shuttle is shot down, the HK-50s tell the shooter of his excellent shot.
[R] Atris' Fall - If LS'ed when Kreia kills the Masters, then Kreia would fully corrupt Atris. And Atris would head to Malachor to take up the mantle of traya.
[R] Corrun Falts Plan - Infiltrating the main frame was not always an Ithorian quest. But the PC was supposed to learn from Corrun Falt that he had planned on exposing Lorsos dirty dealings himself, if PC had sided with Czerka. PC can help or expose Falt to Lorso. Exposing Falt to Lorso will result in Falt attacking the PC but then the Czerka guards kill him anyway.
[R] The Crash - Atton is supposed to say a few lines as the shuttle from Citadel Station plummets into the ground. And when the shuttle crashes again at the Ice Cap, Atton takes note that it wasn't his fault.
[R] Duro Thug - A random Duro thug simply attacks the PC for asking questions. Probably asking around about the blaster and then he just spawns in.
[R] An option to see Carth - PC had the option of denying Carth an audience after saving Telos.
[R] Kreia's Last Words - If Atris became Traya and left for Malachor, the player would encounter a dying Kreia in the Academy.


[NR] Attack! - Player had the option of killing all the Handmaidens during the first visit to the Academy.

Dantooine


[TBR - Pikmin] Disciples Hidden Holocron - Disciple takes the Exile into a hidden, locked room in the Enclave and displays a holocron as well as recording of when the Exile left for the Mandalorian Wars, leaving a padawan without a master behind.

[R] Kreia taunts each master - During the Masters infamous speech about how they must cut the Exile off from the force, Kreia comes in as usual and throws them back. However, after she drains them, it's not over. Kreia was to ask each master how they could not have felt the echo and how close they were to giving up the Force but they failed. Kreia puts each of them in a crush, thus killing them.
[R] The Exile reads party members minds - When asked if he could not sense his party members thoughts, the party member with the Exile were supposed to have their mind read.
[R] A Bounty for Vrook - Originally, the player could capture Master Vrook and Azkul would send him to Nar Shaddaa.

[RE] Visas' involvement - Visas notices Kreia is evil. After Kreia goes attacks player or masters, Kreia asks her to take her to Nihilus.

Nar Shaddaa


[TBR - Pikmin] Magic Eight Ball - In the Jek'Jek Tarr, there was to be a Weequay who had an orb where you can ask questions.


[R] Threatening Goto - When stumbling upon the control center, the player threatens to use a certain skill to dismantle his vessel, however, Goto says that his droids will just turn off the oxygen.
[R] Time to abandon ship! - When the Bounty Hunters appear on Gotos vessel, Goto makes note of them and says it's time for him to take his leave. Also, HK-50s were supposed to be among the bounty hunters there. As well as more Zhug brothers.
[R] Fight Back to the Ship - After T3 returns with the codes from the warehouse the party was to fight back to the Tienn.
[R] Attons Lap Dance - Atton was supposed to receieve the Star Wars equivalent of a lap dance - a neck massage. Also, Atton is supposed to do sort of a confession of his "confused, stupid" love for the female Exile. During this scene, under the right circumstances, Atton instantly knows they are assassins from the clothes and concealed weapons.
[R] Bao-Durs old friend - Tien Tubb and Bao-Dur were once friends and important plot points are made.
[R] Zez-Kai Ell's Rescue - Since Dessicus was originally supposed to be in the JekJek Tarr (instead of Visquis) and he was supposed to set off an explosion. Zez-Kai Ell rescues the Exile from an explosive death, though the party still thinks the Exile is dead.
[R] Fassa is a Toydarian - Fassa was probably originally supposed to be Quello, the toydarian who greeted the Exile at the landing pad. And then at the docks, be the overseer instead of the twi'lek.
[R] Spa Treatment at the Jek'Jek Tarr - The twi'leks were supposed to be like the twi'lek slaves at Davik's estate and offer steam baths and massages.
[R] Mira's escape from the Jek'Jek Tarr - Instead of the Exile killing Visquis, it would be a party member and then Mira would lead them out of the Jek'Jek Tarr into her safehouse. Also, Mira was to be held in some cell in which she says that Visquis will execute her, and where the party member would rescue her.

[RE] Dessicus of the GenoHaradan - Obviously, the GenoHaradan would be the organization beneath the Jek'Jek Tarr. Dessicus will challenge the Exile. After they fight, Dessicus blows the Jek'Jek Tarr up.
[RE] Gotos Orders - Goto will command his droids not only to activate the mines but raise the force shield, poison them and deploy guard droids. And finally, Goto notices the bounty hunters on his ship and gives the self-destruct order.
[RE] Mira and the Exile plan things out - Mira, instead of knocking the player out, will explain Zez-Kai Ell early and have the Exile go in first instead of her stealing the environmental suit.
[RE] A Dead Exile - Dessicus (GenoHaradan) blows up the JekJek Tarr and the party thinks the player is dead. Visas or Kreia will say that the betrayals will start to mount between the Sith.

[NR] Environment suit stays on - The player would have the option to leave the environment suit on when speaking with Visquis. This exchange was moved to the arena to replace the GenoHaradan. Visquis later would be able to capture the Exile and order the Ubese to take him to Goto.

Dxun - COMPLETE


[R] Controlling the beast - somewhere within the tomb of Freedon Nadd, a scene where the Sith is controlling a beast and onlookers wonder how it's possible.
[R] An Option to see Mandalore - Instead of player just killing the Mandalorians if he doesn't want to meet Mandalore, the PC has an option of leaving them alone.

[NR] Kreia goes to the tomb - Kreia was originally supposed to be allowed to join the party that goes to the tomb. Cut so that it'd make sense with the Tobin scene in the Onderon Royal Palace where Kreia reveals the Jedis hiding place.


Onderron - COMPLETE


[R] Kadrons Fall - If the player sides with Vaklu, then when the PC arrives in the room where Kadron is then he will defend the terminal with his life.
[R] Vaklus Entrance - If the player sides with Vaklu, then he should not have been waiting in the throne room but after the beast is dead, he arrives and runs to defeat Talia. Kavar rushes in to stop him. PC stops him. The options here are much more lenient to the light side in which the PC has the option of saying "Onderon would be better off".

Korriban - COMPLETE

[R] Korriban Info - There were some additional lines between Kreia, Atton, Visas, and the Exile about the nature of Korriban.
[R] Party cannot enter - Before entering the tomb of Ludo Kressh, a party member chips in about not being able to move.
[R] Dustil Onasi - The dead Jedi in the tomb was supposed to be none other then Dustil Onasi. He was to be insane and then attack the PC.
[R] Doppleganger Fight - Revan was to have the dark clone of the exile fight you, prior to fighting Revan.

The Ravager

[TBR - pikmin/DStoney] Destroy Citadel Station - The player could opt to send the Ravager crashing into CS, destroying it.

[R] Fragile Alliance Falls apart - After Sion discovers the Exile is truely dead, he confronts Darth Nihilus on the Ravager. Sion claims that he is more powerful and never needed Nihilus' help. Nihilus, in anger, shows Sion that he is the more powerful one.


Malachor V

[TBR - Pikmin] Hanharrs Sacrifice - Presumbly, if the player has Hanharr in the party and Malachor V is being destroyed, Hanharr would throw the player onto the Ebon Hawk. Hanharr would then die with Malachor V.

[R] A powerful crystal - When entering one of the cells, the player can find a crystal of a dead Jedi.
[R] Darth Traya is Atris - Instead of Kreia being at the core, it'd be Atris in her dark robes.



[RE -Restored in M4-78EP] Sion travels to the Smugglers Moon - Sion announces that he will travel to the Smugglers Moon (while observing a hologram of the Exile) himself to see if the Exile is truly dead.

[NR] Hanharr and Mira - Hanharr was to slam Mira into the rock wall before their fight.


Unknown Areas

[TBR - Restored in Bao Sacrifice mod/ and Partially in TSLCR] Bao-Durs Sacrifice - In the released audio demo, one of Bao-Durs lines is "Make my sacrifice matter". Presumbly, Bao-Dur dies at some point near the end-game.

Beta Team
  • Darth Stoney
  • Zbyl2
  • nine.roses
  • TriggerGod
  • jonathan7
  • Revan 411
  • Hassat Hunter


Voice Acting
I'm using voice acting for the dialogue spoken by some of the cut human characters. I have already filled most positions, if one opens up I'll post in this thread.


FAQ - Here are answers to questions that will no doubt be asked, I'll add to this list as the thread grows.

[Q] What game is this for?
[A] TSL duh!

[Q] Will your mod be compatible with TSLRP and M4-78?
[A] Yes. In fact parts of the mod won't work right without having previously installed M4-78 and TSLRP.


[Q] Will you restore Atris as Traya?
[A] Yes, and if you were smart you suggested an idea, and will vote on how she becomes Traya.

[Q] How long will it take you to complete the mod?
[A] Well I'm close to the first pre-TSLRP release, but there is no definitive answer.

[Q] When will this mod be released?
[A] Whenever it's done.

[Q] Can I join your team and help you with development?
[A] If I want help I'll contact the people who can actually help.

Preview Screenshots
TSLCR on Photobucket

Videos
TSLCR Youtube Profile


Dialogue
Coming soon...



Credits
Team Exile's former leader
Zbyl2---- Assistant modder, tester.
swfan28----- Nar Shadda help.
Darth Stoney------ M4-78 comp testing, random help.
nine.roses------- Storyline Editor
jonathan7----- Tester
Revan 411------ Tester
Other former Team Exile members.


I'll update this thread when I feel I have good enough content to show off.

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Old 08-11-2008, 10:26 PM   #2
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Very nice, Pikmin. It is a welcome addition to Exiled Studios WIPs ^_^
Anyways:
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Ah, restored content is always nice. And, yeah, you have to set the album to "public".

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Old 08-11-2008, 10:39 PM   #4
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2 new areas that involve Czerka's Corruption.
I have a question about this part:
Is this the "Yima's Suspicion" quest, where she has you catch a fellow lieutenant in an act of corruption?
If not, then I'd like permission to do this on my own. (Or if it it isn't already done) ^_^
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If the last Proton core isn't set before you leave, the Ravager crashes into Telos station.
Will the game simply end at that point if this choice is taken?

(Check your PMs as well for a related question.)
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Old 08-12-2008, 03:59 AM   #6
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Ah, restored content is always nice.
I second that! TSLCR will be one of the most succesfull mods in the history of TSL modding, I think. I hope it's completed soon! Come and think of it, who else doesn't hope that?

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I love restoration! And now, I think I'll make fourth restoration mod, restoring all thing TSLCR, RP and M4 doesn't restoring
And I sended you some question by PM.

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Old 08-12-2008, 09:21 AM   #8
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@TG the stuff is almost done, but I can send you the files and you can fix it up.
@ SH I replied to your PM.
@ zybl2 I replied to your PM.

@ Everyone else: Album is public and thanks for the praise.
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Old 08-12-2008, 10:41 PM   #9
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I was reading where someone said they didn't understnad the whole i hate the force thing with Kreia.

The reason she hated the force is the idea of control. Kreia could control many people with her knowledge of the human psychy. With all she can do to hold the galaxy in its grasp....she knew she was powerless against the force "the living Force" which creates balance in the universe. That why she said there will always be the darth traya, and why even if the jedi were killed off, there will always be a jedi and a sith. The living force will always unbalance what Kreia or others do. She hated it for its control over her destiny. She knew how to wait to pull the string to make events happen as she wishes but in the end she is only a puppet on strings controled; the force moves these strings. She saw the Exile as a way of finding life with out the force.

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This is a very good mod, I already played the other one, and it was a bit confusing on Nar Shadda, I'm not sure if anyone told you this yet, but I did find a problem with the on KotorFiles..

On Nar Shadda, after the Droid ware house, you control as Atton and fight your way to the place where they sell the ship codes to you, and I did enjoy the sequence a bit, but it was back wards, its not suppose to be like that, your suppose to fight your way to the docks and to Mira/Hanharr, and the game didn't let me choose my party members, It only let me play as Atton and T3-M4.

Just telling you, so you can fix that up in the next version.


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Old 08-13-2008, 06:39 AM   #11
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Actually there are two fights. One to where you get the Hawk, and one to the Jek'Jek Tarr.
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@ SH I replied to your PM.

@ Everyone else: Album is public and thanks for the praise.
Ah but you missed my public question . . . You said for your Ravager additions, "If the last Proton core isn't set before you leave, the Ravager crashes into Telos station."
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Will the game simply end at that point if this choice is taken?
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No, it will load show you taking off of CS, and Mandalore will give the signal for the explosion. Then t3-m4 gives you dessicus' message.
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So soon... so so so soon TSL will be restored to its rightful glory! I love the restoration mods that add a ton of little things. ^_^


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any idea of a date or projected release date for your restoratoins?


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Not gonna speak for Pikmin, but I always wanted to use this:


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Well I have to get the Atris as Traya stuff finished, fix the few remaining bugs on Dantoine, finish up Nar Shaddaa, get Czerka to take over Telos, ensure compatibility with M4-78, and fix any bugs that I or future testers find. Then by that time if TSLRP isn't released I'll make a public release.

But if TSLRP is out by then I have to make everything compatible with their stuff. But I've gone pretty far in doing that already..
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Hi. I have been lurking around the forums of TG, TSLRP(RIP), Deadly Forums (M4-78) and Lukas Forums for quite a long time. I am happy to see, that the undertaken restoration efforts are going quite smoothly and cannot wait till the projects are released. Having looked through this forum, I wanted to ask a little question...

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If the last Proton core isn't set before you leave, the Ravager crashes into Telos station.
I do not see stated anywhere, if the movie showing Ravager crashing into citadel station will be restored. The movie of the station 'going boom' was included in the High-Resolution movie patch, but the one of Ravager going out of control was not. I will probably repeat myself, but it would be nice to have something like that:

http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=QR9VtHF5QFQ

At the same page it states:

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Part one of the video shows a scene only available on the Prima KOTOR DVD Guide. (That's the portion with the captions under it.)

Part 2 was briefly part of the "High Quality Media Pack" before it was removed.

Before you ask, I have no idea why these cut-scenes were removed from the game. Your guess is as good as mine.

The poster of this video is known as "Sith Holocron" on the Team Gizka boards
Therefore, will you be restoring the movie from the above-mentioned Prima KOTOR DVD Guide, will you be trying to get the movie directly from Sith Holocron or something like that (I see that Sith Holocron is participating in the discussion as well :-) )? I would certainly be a great addition to the restoration!
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I actually have the movie. I'm trying to find a way to get rid of the captions though atm.

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I actually have the movie. I'm trying to find a way to get rid of the captions though atm.
That' great to hear! :-)

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Whooops :-/ I meant K2RP of course! Sorry, my mistake! If TSLRP ever dies, then everything would be lost! :-)
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Well, not completly. I could download the leak, and then the source files and finish it. but that would be a last resort which we will never have to suffer through.
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I really hope that will not happen! It is quite unlikely that at this point of its development TSLRP will be canceled.

To be honest, I eagerly await both mods (together with M4-78 that would be 3 mods :-) ). I love restorations, as they make the experience of playing TSL as full as possible.

Therefore keep up the good work!
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Coming along very nicely. I have to adjust something and then I'll probably record this weeks video.
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Can't wait! :-)
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Would you like to see Atris kill Kreia?
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Not much longer now.

I just finished recording the video and am fixing it up and then I'll upload it.

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Would you like to see Atris kill Kreia?
That would be a very interesting thing to watch. I have read through http://lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=190982 and the ideas are quite nice.

I do wonder, by the way, if it would be possible to keep the old ending as well - I mean, is the part Atris as Traya going to completely replace the oryginal ending of Kreia being Traya? Or will there be some kind of a turn in the plot, where it will flow as it oryginaly was? I will try to explain. In one of the ideas before of after making Atris completely fall, Kreia would fight her. The player could for the time of the fight take the control over of Kreia (just like Atton vs. Sion in the TSLRP). If the player wins, the plot goes further like in the oryginal version. If he loses, then the restored content kicks in and Atris cuts off Kreia's remaining hand or something else You plan on implementing.

To be honest, I do not exactly make out all of the cut plot issues or wheather there is a chance to make that work altogether. I do not know if Obsidian wanted to implement something like Atris being Traya from the start, but since Lucas Arts made them publish the game too early, they had to do think of an alternative - and thus Kreia mas made Traya. Or were they planning, that Atris or Kreia will become Traya depending on players choices, alignment, gender, influence etc. Or that they just abandoned the idea but left all the VOs.

Phewww...

But if it was possible to keep the normal ending as well, then that would be very nice and would make the more interesting.
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If you were lightsided Atris was to become Traya, as Kreia was semi-redeemed.
If you were darksided Kreia was going to leave you to die at the enclave and go finish what she started.

If you kill the masters Kreia goes all super-hypo Sith and and becomes Traya, if Kreia has to kill the masters Atris becomes Traya. That is as indepth as i will go without spoiling too much.
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Excellent work Pikmin


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Thanks for the answer Pikmin. This mod indeed shows great promise :-)

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If you were lightsided Atris was to become Traya, as Kreia was semi-redeemed.
Will it possible to play Light Side and don't 'redeemed' Kreia?
Also, I have an idea (I hope you didn't think about this before ). TSLRP will be restore scene, where Kreia taking Brianna to Malachor V, and on Malachor she fight with Visas. So maybe you can make new scene there, and make Atris taking Brianna to Malachor? I'll be happy if you'll not remove Brianna vs Visas, I really like it.
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Sorry about labouring the point of the restored content, but I have one more question :-) Is there going be included something, that will fill up the plot hole between the Ravager falling down on the Citadel Station and and Exiles departure for Malachor.

I mean something like the crew of the Ebon Hawk back on the station realize the threat of it being annihilated by the destroyer's remains (i.e. someone from the crew telling that they are in danger and they should evacuate - Atton has some VOs like that). Then on the Ebon Hawk they talk about this situation when the Exile enters the ship (since there is no station anymore, he entered i.e. from the shuttle directly after docking withe Ebon Hawk) and others ask him 'what the hell happened' :-) . If there are no appropriate lines, the Exile could just brush them off, so the dialog would be fairly short (I suppose, that if the station is destroyed, the Exile is rather DS and does not care what others think) and just orders them to fly to Malachor to take his revenge. Then the ship jumps into Hyperspace and leaves for Malachor V...
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Well, the Ravager doesn't blow up citadel station until after you meet with Carth/Kreia.

@ zybl2. you can still have Brianna vs Visas as Brianna heads to Malachor alone if Atris becomes Traya. Now no more questions about Malachor in public. If I wish to show/tell you I will. Otherwise you are waiting till I send you the final beta.

EDIT: Ok, I recently had semi-hard drive failure. Thankfully I've uploaded the majority of my modified files to the internet and have sent others to friends. I will be spending the rest of today getting my modding enviroment setup again and then I have to reinstall TSL. Rest assured that progress will not be affected by this. I'll notify you all when I get everything fixed up.

EDIT: It's all working now. And I've got the Atris video uploaded. But I had to use megavideo this time as youtube wouldn't accept it.

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=H1D9Y1YH
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These colour on video are stange... Is it only me?
Anyway, why Atris usign double lightsaber?
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[q]These colour on video are stange... Is it only me?[/q]

Nope... they are strange and the video is quite distorted. But on the other hand it does show quite a lot of new things. Hope any future vids will be better
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Egh, let me fix that.

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Anyway, why is Atris using double bladed lightsaber?
Because my exile had a double bladed lightsaber.
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Dustil was originally supposed to attack the player?


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This is k2. And yes, if he actually appeared. It was cut.
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Is there dialog? Or does he just appear as some random guy attacking you?

Also, I was aware it was K2.


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