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Old 07-24-2008, 04:24 AM   #1
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Darth Revan and Bastila Relationship

Hey ppl of LucasForums......i was sitting here for a couple of minutes though my mind has been asking this question for months...

What was Revan and Bastila's relationship like on the lightside and darkside.....before revan left and after the battle of the starforge.





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Old 07-24-2008, 06:50 AM   #2
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I'm not quite sure as to what you mean, could you please clarify a bit more?


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Old 07-24-2008, 07:26 PM   #3
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Odds are that Revan forgets Bastila and falls in love with Yuthura Ban!

Seriously, I think Bastila looked up to the Dark Lord before he fell. After the Star Forge, it went beyond simple infatuation. Make sense?
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Odds are that Revan forgets Bastila and falls in love with Yuthura Ban!

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Seriously, I think Bastila looked up to the Dark Lord before he fell. After the Star Forge, it went beyond simple infatuation. Make sense?
Probably.

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Seriously, I think Bastila looked up to the Dark Lord before he fell. After the Star Forge, it went beyond simple infatuation. Make sense?
I've actually always thought that.


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Old 07-25-2008, 12:38 AM   #6
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I've actually always thought that.
So you assume Revan is a man in your mind? If Revan were a woman, then... wouldn't Juhani be more likely than Bastila?
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If Revan were a woman, I think she and Bastila would still become close friends. Just not . . . that close.


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Just not . . . that close.
Why not?


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Old 07-25-2008, 09:49 AM   #9
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Why not?
Obviously because Juhani was more open with her feelings. First come, first serve.

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Why not?
hehehehehehehehehe ya like Inyri said Juhani is more like that.
man that cracks me up....roflmao!!!!!

heres a thought......do you think Revan and Bastila might of thought about having a child after the civil war...meaning afta the starforge battle.

but i think they might of thought of having a child on lightside but on darkside i think they were like 2 fuzzy bunnies......lol


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Old 07-25-2008, 06:43 PM   #11
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Nah, I can't see that happening. Not in a galaxy filled with war.

Plus, i'll bet Bastila's 'too posh to push'.






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Old 07-25-2008, 08:07 PM   #12
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ya like Inyri said Juhani is more like that.
I find that statement to be overly pessimistic.


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Old 08-02-2008, 01:21 AM   #13
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So you assume Revan is a man in your mind? If Revan were a woman, then... wouldn't Juhani be more likely than Bastila?
Revan is, canonically, male. Therefore, a.... trans-species, lesbian, catwoman relationship is simply impossible. It doesn't really matter though because the OP is also asking about both LS and DS.

On the subject, the "status" of Revan's and Bastila's relationship is pretty much presumptuous as far as I know. However, I don't think they would have figured having a child would be a bad thing. He would no doubt (hopefully) be a force sensitive, and the galaxy certainly needs more, powerful, jedi. That is, of course, if they were both light side (canon). Dark sided, I'd agree with the assumption they would resemble the bunnies, though, minus the reproductive aspect.
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Revan is, canonically, male. Therefore, a.... trans-species, lesbian, catwoman relationship is simply impossible.

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Did I set this whole conversation off? Cause that's what I meant... if Revan was male, cause he canonically is.

Mah bad.


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Old 08-08-2008, 11:35 AM   #15
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Revan is, canonically, male. Therefore, a.... trans-species, lesbian, catwoman relationship is simply impossible.
Actually, Juhani hits on Revan regardless of gender. So it is possible .

Revan and Bastilla if lightside pobably would agree not to have a child, but I would not be surprised if they had one anyway...the little accident if you will. As darkside...like bunnies yeah, could start a new sith order with the number of kids they would have.

Honestly I see no reason against a female Revan/Bastila romance...

Although I like DY´s idea of Revan ditching Basty for Yuthura.

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Old 08-08-2008, 11:39 AM   #16
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Actually, Juhani hits on Revan regardless of gender. So it is possible .
When I first played it I just thought she was very erm... open with her feelings. >_>
Now that I'm older, I see the truth!
It'd be hilarious if you could pick whether your PC was gay or not. lol.

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Honestly I see no reason against a female Revan/Bastila romance...
You would'nt.



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Old 08-08-2008, 11:50 AM   #17
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Honestly I see no reason against a female Revan/Bastila romance...
I resent that. Although I believe there is a mod that makes that possible. Nevertheless, I discourage its use.

And I wouldn't know much about any flirting with Juhani. I ...don't like her. It's like she's got that Russian accent, but it's not that sexy kind of Russian accent. Also, she scares me in her appearance. I don't like cat-humanoid hybrids. Everything about her just sort of deters me from interacting with her. Rofl! I actually don't think I've ever willingly used her outside of the Rakatan Temple. I've been trying to talk to her more on my current playthrough though. Maybe I'll use her. I hear she's a pretty good character.
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Old 08-08-2008, 11:52 AM   #18
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When I first played it I just thought she was very erm... open with her feelings. >_>
Now that I'm older, I see the truth!
It'd be hilarious if you could pick whether your PC was gay or not. lol.

You would'nt.

Ah, just more options to add to the 3rd KOTOR.

Yeah its like my younger cousin. He didn´t understand what Mira meant by "hooking up a power cupling" - I was like just wait a couple of years kid. I started playing KOTOR at 13 I believe, so I knew very well, that Juhani was a lesbian on the second playthrough. (was a male Revan the first time)

Of course I wouldn´t

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Old 08-08-2008, 12:00 PM   #19
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Yeah its like my younger cousin. He didn´t understand what Mira meant by "hooking up a power cupling" - I was like just wait a couple of years kid. I started playing KOTOR at 13 I believe, so I knew very well, that Juhani was a lesbian on the second playthrough. (was a male Revan the first time)
Poor kid.
And I don't know what age I was, but it wasn't until I played through as a male (a few years later) that I realised there was no difference between her dialogue.
I think it's lame how you can't choose which person you want to hook up with though. Like in K2, who ever said I liked Atton or Disciple?!


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Old 08-09-2008, 11:51 AM   #20
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Whoever said I liked Handmaiden or Visas?! Maybe I like Mira better! At least she´s a laugh. Yeah, I wonder if Bioware intended Juhani to be portrayed as a bisexual? Maybe they were going for an affectionate, purring little kitty...with a rather nasty temper. Throws Juhani a ball of yarn to play with "Good Kitty"

Who would you rather, Burnseyy - Bao I suppose?

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Old 08-09-2008, 12:49 PM   #21
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Well, since the player is Revan, try to think what you'd have done. My Revan cut her head off after err, an (extremely) short and intense relationship. On one hand, aprentices have this nasty habit of killing their masters, on the other, I had spent a long time on a ship with just guys/cats/kids/things for company


Checking out seems not to do much.

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Old 08-09-2008, 06:22 PM   #22
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Whoever said I liked Handmaiden or Visas?! Maybe I like Mira better! At least she´s a laugh. Yeah, I wonder if Bioware intended Juhani to be portrayed as a bisexual? Maybe they were going for an affectionate, purring little kitty...with a rather nasty temper. Throws Juhani a ball of yarn to play with "Good Kitty"

Who would you rather, Burnseyy - Bao I suppose?

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I'm never looking at Juhani the same again...

And yes, why didn't you get a Bao romance choice? it seems the best characters were playing hard to get


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Old 08-10-2008, 12:14 AM   #23
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Screw Bastila!

Revan could have any woman in the galaxy. Why have an arrogant little stodgy misfit? I say drop her for the Exile.

I certainly hope no one seriously wants a female Revan/Bastila thing. *shudder*
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She's arrogant because she's good - she's not arrogant in an Atris-type way.


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I certainly hope no one seriously wants a female Revan/Bastila thing. *shudder*

Scarily enough, there's people in the world who do.




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Scarily enough, there's people in the world who care about the relationship betwen two clumps of pixels


Checking out seems not to do much.
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Scarily enough, there's people in the world who care about the relationship betwen two clumps of pixels

They're real, I swear.


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I certainly hope no one seriously wants a female Revan/Bastila thing. *shudder*
What exactly is wrong with the idea? I personally find it far more believable than Female Revan and Carth developing a relationship. Elaboration on your opinion would be appreciated.


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What exactly is wrong with the idea? I personally find it far more believable than Female Revan and Carth developing a relationship. Elaboration on your opinion would be appreciated.
Bastila and Carth?

Oh god. :|

Even if it is more believable than that, those two aren't believable in the slightest.


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Old 08-11-2008, 12:39 PM   #30
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I already knew you thought that. I was asking why.


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What exactly is wrong with the idea? I personally find it far more believable than Female Revan and Carth developing a relationship. Elaboration on your opinion would be appreciated.
I do too, though I am not one of those people who is like "thats so cool I have to see that!" The Carth relationship was very unbelievable if you ask me. He goes from openly not trusting you to "wanna be my girlfriend?" At least with Bastila its clear that she is attracted to Revan the whole time, but keeping it in. If you have ever hit on her its pretty obvious. While I would not call this entirely beleivable per say, she is still way more believable than Carth.

I honestly don´t like Bastila in the slightest, looks ore otherwise - the only part I did like was the voice acting. She just flat out annoys me. The Bastila fanboys line to kick my but starts here...

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Because it's evident from the female playthrough of K1, that Bastila isn't like that.

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I do too, though I am not one of those people who is like "thats so cool I have to see that!" The Carth relationship was very unbelievable if you ask me. He goes from openly not trusting you to "wanna be my girlfriend?" At least with Bastila its clear that she is attracted to Revan the whole time, but keeping it in. If you have ever hit on her its pretty obvious. While I would not call this entirely beleivable per say, she is still way more believable than Carth.



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You're not the only one who thinks the Carth/Revan thing was a bit fixed lol but Carth is an all round better person than Bastila by far, so I can forgive him for that


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Yeah he is better than Bastila, but than again I like everybody except for Mical and G0T0 better than Basty. I like the character I idea, but she annoys me to no end with her preachiness and whatnot.

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Goto was just the most useless, annoying, pointless piece of rubbish in the existence of Star Wars but Kreia was annoying too. I hated HER preaching, as well. I think I only ever got her influence up enough to ask about Revan twice. I just could not be bothered with her.


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Visas was too easy to manipulate. If you were dark, she'd follow. If you were light, she'd follow.

Come on! I think you should have to earn her trust or something!
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I get what you mean!

Even two year olds show more need for trust than she did. :¬:
You'd have thought with her past, she'd be less eager to tell her life story to the world, and fall in love without question. Or maaaybe that was what the producers were getting at.


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The Bastila fanboys line to kick my but starts here...
Noted. Butt kicked.
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Bastila is too respectful of the chain of command. I think that when Revan turned to the darkside, she had a revelation like Atris, but was too proud to admit that she loved Revan before he was captured. When he emerged as a greater jedi than her, she felt that she was below his notice... but tried to live up to the expectations of being bonded to him.

I guess she realized that he was better than her because he had emotion and compassion. I can understand why she would love Revan, even if he doesn't follow the jedi code.
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Bastila is too respectful of the chain of command.
I've just started a new game on K1, and she said she thought the Jedi Masters were arrogant and stodgy, and she's become like them because they emphasised her Battle Meditation so much.
excuses

But anyway, she may have respected them, but she knew they weren't perfect.


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Well she always said to put faith in their wisdom... even if those that follow don't know where they're going.

The Exile said Bastila was strongly against Revan and Malak in favor of the Council.
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