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Old 06-30-2008, 06:56 PM   #1
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Which Exile?

Straight forward enough question I couldn't find asked elsewhere on the forum. If the Exile is canonically female, which face do you feel fits the most?


Was going to start a poll, but the forum only allows ten options, and there's sixteen heads. Never mind, just state the number written by the portrait instead.
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Old 06-30-2008, 07:09 PM   #2
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I myself choose the 7th? It looks differant from all of the other portraits... maybe its because its the only facing forward? Anyways, the 7th is just what I'd imagine the Exile to be like... if she were lightside. 14 if Darkside.
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Old 06-30-2008, 07:29 PM   #3
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None of them look exλctly right to me. I'm not sure why.


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Old 06-30-2008, 08:39 PM   #4
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My Exile isn't female... Cannon can kiss me ***.



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Old 06-30-2008, 09:13 PM   #5
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Heh, saγing things like that at KFM can get you banned.


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Old 06-30-2008, 09:18 PM   #6
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I always use a modded blue twi'lek head that is supposed to look like an older mission vao. I have not used any of these heads in ages. But out of those choices #12 for lightside, #7 for darkside.

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Old 06-30-2008, 10:55 PM   #7
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I'd say 14 fits best in my opinion, I think it's the seriousness and somewhat darkness of the facial expression.


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Old 06-30-2008, 11:30 PM   #8
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My Exile isn't female... Cannon can kiss me ***.
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Oh and you spelled my wrong But if I'm ever female, I'm usually #9, But usually I'm male and pining after Mira


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Old 06-30-2008, 11:33 PM   #9
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7 looks the most real, the others kinda have weird features/shapes going on

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Old 07-01-2008, 05:40 AM   #10
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Every time I play as a female, I plays as 14. I don't know why, but that face seems to fit better than most.






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Old 07-01-2008, 06:36 AM   #11
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Heh, saγing things like that at KFM can get you banned.
KFM?

I don't really think saying that is worthy of a ban, especially considering I don't consider the *** as actually a swear word, but some of the mods do; hence me staring it. I would consider it no loss to myself to banned from a forum where you couldn't say the above.



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Old 07-01-2008, 10:12 AM   #12
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:31 AM   #13
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I always choose 14 for a couple of reasons. #1 is that it actually looks serious enough to be a former general and Jedi, #2 because I always get ticked off that every main character (usually the Jedi ones) ends up being a caucasion (sp?). Is it that hard to get some diversity with our main heroes/heroines? #3 is that some of the other heads seem more than a little...off. Am I the only one who noticed that 12 has a scary resemblance to Atris?! Scared the heck out of me the first time I looked at it.
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because I always get ticked off that every main character (usually the Jedi ones) ends up being a caucasion (sp?)
This is why my Revan is a black woman - she breaks the mould in every way possible



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Old 07-01-2008, 05:01 PM   #15
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My Exile isn't female... Cannon can kiss me ***.
Word.

The one time that I did play as a female, I chose 14 just because. I usually play male though.


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Old 07-01-2008, 05:08 PM   #16
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Word.

The one time that I did play as a female, I chose 14 just because. I usually play male though.
Meet me;

http://theborggaming.planet-multipla...papers_622.jpg

As I actually look very much like PCMHC01...

http://www.lucasforums.com/album.php...3&pictureid=28



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Old 07-01-2008, 05:14 PM   #17
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You do. I don't really look like any of them.

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Old 07-01-2008, 05:15 PM   #18
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You do. I don't really look like any of them.
What are you trying to say? What's wrong with PCMHC01; play as me.

Don't make me set Mace on you Jango... We know how that went last time!



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Old 07-01-2008, 05:45 PM   #19
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My Exile isn't female... Cannon can kiss me ***.
Actually, despite the fact that I started this thread, I kinda agree.

I play TSL as Darth Revan. How's that for anti-cannonicity?!
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Old 07-01-2008, 07:34 PM   #20
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I'm sure the pansy Star Wars canon Exile walked around giving people hugs, telling everyone how she was wrong to join Revan in the Mandalorian Wars, and how the Council was right and how the Republic is so great, chiding Kreia at every turn for her insensitivity toward her companions and the suffering of others. If I had to wager, I'd say Lucas' people would choose #9.

IMO, the story is far more interesting if the Exile still believes in her heart that joining Revan was right. I want an Exile who can stare down the Jedi masters, especially Atris, for what their blind adherence to doctrine and their fear of confronting the unknown did to the galaxy. Furthermore, she needs to have a look that makes her appear insensitive to those she commands, at least outwardly, but who beneath has a compassionate heart. I'd go with #11.
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Old 07-01-2008, 07:38 PM   #21
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IMO, the story is far more interesting if the Exile still believes in his heart that joining Revan was right. I want an Exile who can stare down the Jedi masters, especially Atris, for what their blind adherence to doctrine and their fear of confronting the unknown did to the galaxy.
Fixed and agreed.



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Old 07-01-2008, 08:06 PM   #22
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still believes in her heart that joining Revan was right.
...even though so many Jedi flocking to Revan's command was what allowed him to start another war in which he and his subordinates murdered quadrillions of people (Revan also killed thousands of his own soldiers even before he began the Jedi Civil War).

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So it's the Council's fault that Revan decided to start a second war in which his forces massacred planetary populations in the name of "protecting" the Republic against some supposed external threat? If the Jedi Order's doctrine had been properly followed in the first place, then Revan and his band of hooligans wouldn't have gone on their crusade to vandalize the galaxy in the first place.


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Old 07-01-2008, 08:11 PM   #23
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...even though so many Jedi flocking to Revan's command was what allowed him to start another war in which he and his subordinates murdered quadrillions of people (Revan also killed thousands of his own soldiers even before he began the Jedi Civil War).

So it's the Council's fault that Revan decided to start a second war in which his forces massacred planetary populations in the name of "protecting" the Republic against some supposed external threat? If the Jedi Order's doctrine had been properly followed in the first place, then Revan and his band of hooligans wouldn't have gone on their crusade to vandalize the galaxy in the first place.
Things get subjective here, but my Exile, went to war to protect innocents, the Jedi served no-one by inaction, indeed would Revan et al have fallen had the Jedi Council gone to war? I think continually the Jedi Council of the time are shown to be incompetent at best...

If you go DS in K1; you can lie to them all.

In K2, they either get eaten by Nihilus or killed by an old woman.

Hardly the CV of someone to listen to.

Besides regretting the past is a mistake as it has made you who you are now; my Exile made the decision he though was the correct one.

My 2 cents.



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Old 07-01-2008, 08:17 PM   #24
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Trying to defend Revan's genocidal tendancies as anything other than what they are is someone I like to call "Player Character Bias".


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Trying to defend Revan's genocidal tendancies as anything other than what they are is someone I like to call "Player Character Bias".
I'm not trying to defend Revan... I'm defending the Exile, I'm not quite sure how you can possibly have construed this as anything but a discussion about the Exile.

I'm no Revan fanboy...



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What are you trying to say? What's wrong with PCMHC01; play as me.

Don't make me set Mace on you Jango... We know how that went last time!
You know what? I will.

Yes I do know. :/ I'm watching you though.

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I'm no Revan fanboy...
I'm obviously not one either.

He is cool, but I am not obsessed with him. It may seem like I am obsessed with Jango, but to tell you the truth, I am really not. Just a theme.

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Wait, i just noticed something, if the exile is cannonically female why is all the art show him as a male?

ie.http://theborggaming.planet-multipla...papers_622.jpg


and to reiterate what i said earlier, #7 although #14 is also a good choice

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if the exile is cannonically female why is all the art show him as a male?
It's just something they did in the promotional material and advertisements. They can't really be used as evidence for a male Exile, since promotional material doesn't define canon (most of the time), and even if they were considering having the Exile be male at the time, whoever is in charge of canon decided to have it turn out differently between now and then.


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Old 07-01-2008, 10:47 PM   #30
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I don't see anyone trying to defend what Revan did here. We're talking about the Exile's choices. The Exile went to war to protect people who were being slaughtered by the millions by the Mandalorians. She believed that to be Revan's goal, and she agreed with it.

Fighting in a war does not mean supporting all of the reasons (or what turn out to be the reasons) others fight in the same war. In my opinion anyway. That can apply to real world situations if one wishes, but it fits here as well. Of course, many people blame soldiers for the choices their leaders and governments make, so it is somewhat subjective. Certainly many people would agree with the "all Germans/Japanese/Americans are evil" argument.

The relevant question is not what happened to Revan, but what a doctrine that purports to serve the Light Side is worth if adhering to it means standing aside while half the galaxy is slaughtered? Is that truly in the interests of some longterm universal sense of good or right? Or is it a decision influenced by the ambitions, fears, and prejudices of actual people based on self preservation for their philosophy/religion? The Council's judgement of the Exile at the end of KotOR2 provides the clincher for me personally, but obviously there are many ways to look at the argument as a whole.
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I like the bald guy: he had the look of an outcast and a kickass maverick in general. There's also that Jesusface with the beard, but he looks to old for me, especially considering how the game is supposed to let you strike a romance with Visas or Brianna...

I've always wondered the Exile's age, judging by his history, he/she should have been at least 30 to be a General in the Mandalorian War (except if he/she were extremely, prodigally talented, which must be the case). And I don't have my dates right, but this game must be at least 5 years in the future? All the faces seem to be in the late 20s, except for the Jesusface.

Edit: Curse you, slow image loading! Curse you, impatience! Curse you, Sabretooth!

Among the girls, No. 12 looks like the Exile... and Atris' twin. Other than her, No. 15 and No. 1 seem to be good.


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Hmm... prolly #6 for LS, #3 or #14 for DS. I don't remember the last time i played female exile, tho. 3 and 14 got that creepy "I've returned and I'm going to kill everybody" look. Especially 3. >_>


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I throw my lot in w/ Rev7, Jon7 and Ravnas. Always saw Exile as male, canon be d@mned. When I did play it as female, I tended to use #s 1,7,9, or 10 (or a modded head).


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Wait, i just noticed something, if the exile is cannonically female why is all the art show him as a male?
I think that is because Obsidian intended the Exile to be male. Personally in my universe, Revan was a woman, and the Exile a male... I like it that way

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I throw my lot in w/ Rev7, Jon7 and Ravnas. Always saw Exile as male, canon be d@mned. When I did play it as female, I tended to use #s 1,7,9, or 10 (or a modded head).
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Fighting in a war does not mean supporting all of the reasons (or what turn out to be the reasons) others fight in the same war. In my opinion anyway. That can apply to real world situations if one wishes, but it fits here as well. Of course, many people blame soldiers for the choices their leaders and governments make, so it is somewhat subjective. Certainly many people would agree with the "all Germans/Japanese/Americans are evil" argument.
Unfortunately people love to simplify an dehumanise the enemy (it's easier to kill if they aren't human).

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The relevant question is not what happened to Revan, but what a doctrine that purports to serve the Light Side is worth if adhering to it means standing aside while half the galaxy is slaughtered? Is that truly in the interests of some longterm universal sense of good or right? Or is it a decision influenced by the ambitions, fears, and prejudices of actual people based on self preservation for their philosophy/religion? The Council's judgement of the Exile at the end of KotOR2 provides the clincher for me personally, but obviously there are many ways to look at the argument as a whole.
I think there is more than enough evidence to show the incompetence of the Jedi Council of the time. Though Vash was meant to defend the Exile at the trial before being cut. I also can't diss Vandar, as he's Yoda like.

But Vrook was so moody he basically was DS. Zez el Muppet spoke well, and then followed like a sheep. Some friend Kavar was. Atris - erm, aren't you a Sith Lord anyway - so what are you on about the Exile being DS?



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Old 07-02-2008, 11:16 AM   #35
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Vrook and Atris always struck me as self-righteous to the point of obnoxiousness. Vash struck me as a "team player" who had maybe a reservation or two about banning the Exile, much like ZKE and Kavar. Seems apparent to me that the compromised Jedi were really looking to save their own skins, all the more so when they didn't try to confront the evil, but rather seemed more interested in finding a scapegoat.

In the case of Atris.....I believe it was a form of deflection. She'd already fallen, but used the Exile to mask it from the others. Still fearful and looking for someone to blame for their predicament, they "graciously" accepted.


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i picked 9.
but i don't like any of them lol


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Old 07-02-2008, 12:59 PM   #37
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I'd like to agree with you, Jonathan7. Revan will, and always will be, female in my book. Exile will be male. (Although occasionally I'll play female just for a change in things.)
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*shrugs* I have absolutely no problems with a male Revan, other than the romance scenes. Seriously, I cringed when I saw them. Thanks a bunch LA! And I had just seen the prequels again with my friends a week before... some of the male Revan romance scenes made the ATC ones look good...

But my problem with the FM Exile was how Atris fit into the story, Sion's romanic interest (which is given no backstory...and scared the hell out of me), and that, in Mical vs. Brianna, we all know who is the cooler character and who doesn't make fans seriously want to kill their PMs. Eh, but I'm still happy that we finally get a (decently) well-developed and powerful FM main character.... Finally.
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Old 07-02-2008, 06:41 PM   #39
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*shrugs* I have absolutely no problems with a male Revan, other than the romance scenes. Seriously, I cringed when I saw them. Thanks a bunch LA! And I had just seen the prequels again with my friends a week before... some of the male Revan romance scenes made the ATC ones look good...
LA didn't make the game or the romance scenes...I don't know why they would be blamed for that.

What were you expecting from the romance scenes?


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Old 07-02-2008, 07:33 PM   #40
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in Mical vs. Brianna, we all know who is the cooler character and who doesn't make fans seriously want to kill their PMs
Who?


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