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Old 06-01-2009, 04:43 PM   #1601
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Almost forgot the monthly projection...

Posts @ midnight, May 31: 1,595
Projected posts @ year-end: 3,828
Schweet.

Still an improvement on last year's numbers... so that's good. Don't want to go backwards, that's for sure...


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Old 06-01-2009, 04:54 PM   #1602
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Well our weekend was sweet. Sun has been out for a week strait now. Mid 80s.

My son had his "cub olympics" on Saturday. It's a cub scout/webloes thing.

they had 10 events. He placed in the top 3 in 7 of the events. He looked like Micheal Phelps when he got home.

1st in push ups. He had 67 in a minute
1st in sit-ups... 51 in a minute
1st in frisbee toss.... Had to toss them through rings. Rings had point values.
2nd in standing long jump... 6 ft 5in (Wife said he had close to 7ft on one jump but he fell backwards.)
3rd in 50M dash 11.12sec
3rd in the baseball throw...117 feet
3rd in the football kick... 54 feet..

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Old 06-01-2009, 08:42 PM   #1603
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@Gunner: SOunds like a very proud father momment. Glad to see your son is following in the Stallion's footsteps

@Ed: I sense an opening to ask her if she would want to see the movie with you, so she could show you the parts she is in. Who knows it might lead to having her show you her in parts


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Old 06-01-2009, 10:09 PM   #1604
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Old 06-01-2009, 10:43 PM   #1605
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Okay this is gold. and OMG dealing with Star wars!!!!

Talked to Ying again today. She was watching Empire Strikes Back. her co-workers suggested she watch the Star wars movies Chronologically and she has found she likes the movies.

This is Red five I am going in!


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Old 06-02-2009, 01:22 AM   #1606
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.... As much as I hate to say it..... Go in dude.

It's something deep rooted that I can't date Asian girls unless they are Korean. It's kinda racist, but it seriously wierds me out in this odd way.

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Old 06-02-2009, 09:06 AM   #1607
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@Ed: I sense an opening to ask her if she would want to see the movie with you, so she could show you the parts she is in. Who knows it might lead to having her show you her in parts
I pretty much did that... though I have no idea if the movie has even been released yet, or is on DVD or what. I don't think I ever saw it advertised around here.

She said it's been out in Japan already, and that her parents went to see it.

(EDIT: It came out here in February. It might be on DVD soon...)

It might be a moot point, anyway: I haven't completely given up hope... but it really doesn't seem to me like she wants to get involved in anything right now. Or at least maybe just not with me. I dunno.


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Old 06-02-2009, 09:34 AM   #1608
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How'd you get roped into helping her move?
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Old 06-02-2009, 10:01 AM   #1609
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She mentioned a couple of months ago that she might be moving.

I, nice guy that I am, (and trying very hard to get on her good side...) said something at the time like: "Well, if you ever need a hand, be sure to let me know..."

Words that came back to haunt me.

It's OK... I probably just would have been just sitting around my house being sullen and bitter otherwise. I got a halfway decent dinner out of it, and some time alone in the van with her to talk.

It really wasn't that much stuff, (she's renting a single room) nothing was too heavy, and she probably would have been up the creek otherwise: her only other help was another even smaller, super-skinny Asian girl and that girl's boyfriend.

They'd probably still be working at it.


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Old 06-02-2009, 11:01 AM   #1610
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lol nice one, ed. at least she remembered you though, right?


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Old 06-02-2009, 11:14 AM   #1611
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Yeah... like I said: I haven't completely given up hope.

In the van she started talking about some of the creeps and weirdos who come onto her all the time, and how she hates that. And a little about some of the guys she dated... and how that was mostly bad.

Which is mainly why I think she's not really ready to get back into anything right now.


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Old 06-02-2009, 01:26 PM   #1613
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yes, yes they are.

Anyone who begs to differ can spend a week at my house and observe my wife, who of the 30-40 women I dated, was in the top 10% of least insane
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Old 06-02-2009, 03:53 PM   #1614
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heh i'm glad i broke with mine. i drive by her house and she's home 90% of the time!!! WTF!!! go out and do stuff FFS.


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yeah it was like all the lifetime/hallmark/ion/oxygen channel drama just came right out of the television and punched me in the face.

2 out of 3 coin toss made the first quarter of the year very interesting for me.


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R15 if someone handed the script to someone, no one would believe it and it would have been rejected


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lol, true. It's too much drama, like...overkill.

here's almost the whole script of how it went down:


First of all, my coworker gets me this number, says the chick is like in her late 20's, so i'm like ok, cool....i called her and left a message. she calls me back and wanted to meet, so i met her on my lunch break and went to subways and talked for a bit, she looked about late 20s, but i didn't ask her how old she was, cause i didn't really care, she didn't look older than 30. so i am done with my coffee and say eh i'll give you a call and we'll hang out sometime. ended up going to her house on my next day off, watched some movies and had a sub, didn't really get physical. that's when she asked how old i thought she was and i was like 'eh, 28?' and she was like 'no, i'm 32' and i was like 'cool'...and she seemed like a nice girl

anyway, before my next day off she called and told me the truth, that she's 41, and i almost puked over the phone. then i got on here and was like 'WTF!!!!!!!!!' and just calmed down, thought about it for a good 2 hours, then was like 'ok, coin toss!!!!!' and well...ended up calling back and leaving a message apologizing for my reaction. then i called her the next day and was like 'hey i still wanna date you' and well, i went over to her place and well..we watched a movie and i made out with her and it seemed alright, so i figured what the hell...and well...slept with her a few times...

then valentines day came and well, that night i was out with some friends and i had called her saying i was gonna be over before i went home, well that kinda didn't happen and she got offended i guess, so left a buncha messages like she was going out of town with some of her friends, etc **** trying to make me jealous...

then i wake up the next day and my mom's flipping out cause i told her the night before i was dating a 41 year old woman, and well she had to ask stupid questions and i was like, **** this interrogation resistance bull**** and spilled the beans that i was ****ing her too, which pissed both my parents off....then i call her and she's all pissed at me, and i'm like 'wtf' so i go over and she thought i was going to forget about her, and went insane and smoked a pack of cigerretes, threw out some of my movies (whch i made her recover, btw), and wrote that stupid hate letter (which i made her take out of the trash so i could read it), after all that bs i forgave her, and gave her another chance.

ended up discussing moving in, and well i was like mmm....ok i'll move in, cool. and started setting up my computer, xbox, etc, and she started to get worrisome and called my mom and talked to her about me (in a demeaning way) saying i should grow up, i'm not her son, etc. and me being stupid was like 'eh whatever, bitches really ARE crazy, i'll ignore it....' so i just tuned her out for a few days, anyways while i'm at work she called my parents and my mom put my dad on the phone and they started arguing and ****. then my dad came over to walmart when i was on lunch break and was all 'YOU GOTTA LEAVE HER RIGHT NOW.' in that attitude that i can't ****ing stand, so i rebelled....went back into work and then she called and was apologizing and **** saying i needed to come home, etc. and so i was like ok...so i got management to let me leave early, and well i went in with the intention of leaving cause i was ****ing stressed over both sides pulling at me, and well her apologies seemed sincere, and well...coupled with sex, it made it hard, and well i told her i was gonna just leave her if she kept acting crazy, and she was crying and ****...

then this other **** happened...

ever see the movie 'no vacancy' with the people pounding on the doors and ****? My parents AND the cops did that to me and her cause i didn't pick up the phone when my parents were calling the house, or answer the door when they started knocking and yelling my name. It scared the ****ing **** out of her, but me...having just watched No Vacancy 2, thought it was funny as hell. I'll never forget that ****!!!

the next day we went to this really nice bed and breakfast place, and had a pretty good time talking and stuff...

a few days later my mom calls and says i should just leave, and she has stuff on the answering machine i should listen to, i was like 'no i dont want to listen to it' and well..i probably should have.

Then like 5 days later, coming home from NYC and finding all my clothes, computer, xbox ,all outside on the porch, I should have left right there and then. She hallicinated that I was driving my car behind her, talking on my cell phone, when i was in NYC and my cell batteries died (and i didn't feel like calling from a friend's phone...)



So i gave her another chance....put all my stuff in, she seemed to be ok the next few days, then that night i told kim about the answering machine messages and she was like 'what, i didn't leave any messages!' so that friday i called my parents so we could both listen to the answering machine, well it was basically her asking if i owed any money to them or whatever, and my parents were like 'you should honestly ask him, etc' and i was like 'is that all, that's not a big deal, why are you all making a big deal of this?' anyway she got pissed and yelled at them...it was one of those half-messages where the person doesn't hit stop on the answering machine when they just pick up the phone as the am is coming on.


then...parade day, she hid the keys on me, i didn't know where the hell i put them, so i called my friends and they came and picked me up... then when i was having a good time with my friends down there she calls up saying crazy **** (she wanted us to move away cause she was scared her ex husband was going to hurt us or some ****), which basically really pissed me off, because it made no sense, so i told my friends after i hung up that i'm done with her. Then i proceeded to drink kamikazes, which i wasn't pacing myself and i got really ****ed up.

My friends called her and she didn't want them to bring me over there if i'm throwing up, and she didn't believe them when they told her they were taking me to the hospital. she didn't even make an effort to come to the hospital.

When I woke up, and discovered all the bull****, as hard as it was, I said hell with her...

Then a few days later I fought with depression and misery, my parents were gone on vacation and i was by myself...that sucked. work sucked. everything just sucked. I even considered going back to her, but I held my ground.


Never again will I allow a woman to get as many chances as I gave her.


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She mentioned a couple of months ago that she might be moving.

I, nice guy that I am, (and trying very hard to get on her good side...) said something at the time like: "Well, if you ever need a hand, be sure to let me know..."

Words that came back to haunt me.

It's OK... I probably just would have been just sitting around my house being sullen and bitter otherwise. I got a halfway decent dinner out of it, and some time alone in the van with her to talk.

It really wasn't that much stuff, (she's renting a single room) nothing was too heavy, and she probably would have been up the creek otherwise: her only other help was another even smaller, super-skinny Asian girl and that girl's boyfriend.

They'd probably still be working at it.
Yeah, but any time a guy is too helpful or too nice or too sweet, it warns women off.
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Old 06-03-2009, 09:47 AM   #1620
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Yeah... it's a danger. But whenever I've come on too directly or strongly, it's always warned women off, too. And 'playing it cool' has never got me anywhere either... Not sure what to do.

So my only choices seem to be: to keep at it the way it's going... or just give up on it forever.

Actually, my big fear with her is that we are quickly drifting into "The Friend Zone" and we will get stuck there,.. and it will be awkward, if not impossible to go anywhere else from there.


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Yeah... it's a danger. But whenever I've come on too directly or strongly, it's always warned women off, too. And 'playing it cool' has never got me anywhere either... Not sure what to do.

So my only choices seem to be: to keep at it the way it's going... or just give up on it forever.

Actually, my big fear with her is that we are quickly drifting into "The Friend Zone" and we will get stuck there,.. and it will be awkward, if not impossible to go anywhere else from there.
The success I've had has been when I have been direct and asked them out on a date. If they say no, then stop. Don't ask them out again, and don't be their friend. Because if they don't like you, they don't like you, and you're wasting your time. And as you already know, being their friend will get you nowhere. But they might just not be sure. In that case, you want it to seem like you have other options and better things to do than think about one particular woman. That makes you more attractive to them. You must always remember that women are crazy and posses no reason or logic whatsoever. Only when you have realized that will you have a chance.
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Old 06-03-2009, 10:55 AM   #1622
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I don't gamble.

The reason I don't gamble is because I have never won a dime at it, and have never had any of the positive reinforcement that it takes to want to keep gambling. I've lost every dime I've ever placed on a bet.

Same goes for asking women out for me.

In my entire life, asking someone out has never resulted in a "yes." All the way back to junior high dances up to this year.

I don't know the exact numbers (it's a statistic I've never been proud enough of to bother keeping a record of it...) but I'd peg it at somewhere between "more than 20 but less that 50..." and most of those in a row.

All the dates I've ever had were setups by friends, friends that kinda morphed into more, and that one chick who asked me out from Myspace last year.

But the direct route doesn't seem to give positive results for me... so i'm always reluctant to try it.


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But the direct route doesn't seem to give positive results for me... so i'm always reluctant to try it.
That's why it doesn't work. You have to be confident. Your gambling analogy was bad, because in this case you have nothing to lose. It's not like asking a girl out and getting turned down will somehow ruin your chances with her later. Either she was never going to go out with you anyway, so it doesn't matter, or it will actually INCREASE your chances with her later (assuming you do it right), because you have made a strong, confident, but not desperate or weak, indication of interest.

Are you fat? Poorly groomed? Boring? Annoying? If so, you can fix those things. But other than that, there is nothing to stop you from getting a yes if your approach is right. That's not to say a yes is sure to follow - things happen in other people's lives that you cannot control. But trust me, this is the right approach.

That's not to say you shouldn't be friends first. Asking someone out when you know little about them makes no sense, in my opinion. But you can't let it get too far before you make your move. Otherwise, you hit the dreaded "friend zone."

Just be a man. Strongly state what you want, and if you don't get it, don't let it bother you. Women want men, not women. That doesn't mean you have to be a belching, rude, sports nut. It means you have to be strong and you have to lead and initiate things.

Now go get 'em, tiger.
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Eh... I've tried every approach I can think of, and the results have always been the same.

Trust me: I started out just the way you described when I was younger... but after a couple of dozen rejections in a row self-confidence starts to erode. I just totally gave up for most of my 30's. Didn't even bother to look, or to let myself think about it.

So now I look for somebody who I already get along with and have a somewhat proven track record with.


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Maybe you should just give it up and become a monk. Though I doubt they'd let you wear the vest over the robe
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Believe me... I've thought about it.

I'm far more chaste and celibate than many of those that take the vows already.

Thanks for the concern and all the advice, though.
I'll try to get back in the game and put it into action sometime soon.

After all... something's gotta give.

But if I go through another round of rejection like I did in the past, the monk option might just start to look damn good.


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These days "Date" is too strong of a word. "Meet-up" is preferred for first time meetings. Asking them out for Coffee/tea/drinks is a low commitment, low risk, casual event. Tho Ed I would have to say you need to be more blunt. But be specific. DInner and a scenic stroll.. movie, etc. Or find out some sort of hobby she likes that is fun.

Otherwise... find another fish in the sea and learn


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this **** cracks me up

no offense meant to you aspiring gentlemen, but this forum should not be giving out any dating advice, just taking it


well except ya know, gunner has a wife and kids, and I got a wife.....


although of the 4, keyans method seems alot like what I did....with a little KK mixed in.

being strong with intentions while still being nonchalant is key, otherwise you seem like you are trying to be a player, or a creep, or a total loser
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Hmm... I've already asked her out for several things already, (along those lines of casual meetings...) and she's never actually said "No"... just that she's too busy right now,.. maybe later.

She does work a lot, and has even more community volunteering obligations, so I have been inclined to give her benefit of the doubt. (She's actually mentioned not being able to find time to meet up.)

But it could be that's she's politely turning me down, and trying to nicely spare my feelings without alienating me.

Hard to tell.

Since I don't have anything else lined up on the radar if I give up on this, I figure I'll give it a little bit more time. Let her get settled into her new place for a few days before I make any other overtures.

Besides: I'm working a lot of nights in the next couple of weeks. It's hard for me to make plans myself... which is the main reason I think the thing with the last woman fell apart. She didn't understand why I couldn't just meet her when she got out of work.


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the line "Too busy now, maybe later" means she isn't ready to commit to a serious relationship. bail now, and find someone else. Give up. If she really wants to be with you she will MAKE time. an hour, or 2 is not hard to find in a day. Most often "Busy" could be nothing more then relaxing at the end of the day with some quality "ME" time.

The Legal secretary lady MADE time to spend with me. it was only an hour. But she did make time for me. One time was coffee/tea after we both got done with work, another time we took advantage of my having a day off to get lunch near where she worked.

One lady even ended up bringing her kids along. Another told me what days she had off from work and left it open.

That is one of the reasons I like eharmony. Everyone there has made some sort of commitment to find a relationship in the form of a member fee. Out of 100 matches I get, one of them ends up being a meet/date


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Maybe... but it will probably be at least 2 years or longer before I find anyone else who catches my interest. That's just how it works with me.

Don't think I'm going the internet dating route.


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Old 06-03-2009, 08:15 PM   #1632
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internet dating route has been fail for me so far. of course, it could be the fact i'm using a free site, but it's pretty much crap when nobody sends the first email or even responds to any of mine.


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Old 06-03-2009, 09:40 PM   #1633
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although of the 4, keyans method seems alot like what I did....with a little KK mixed in.
I know what I'm doing. I snagged the girl of my dreams...and then lost her But it was more bad luck than anything, mixed with the complete irrationality of women. In the past, I've looked back and kicked myself, thinking "if only I had done that/not done that." This last time, though, even though it was apparently a failure in the end, I am quite satisfied that I did everything right. That does make it a little easier - no regrets on how I conducted things.
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Old 06-03-2009, 10:59 PM   #1634
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I know what I'm doing.
I wish I could say that again regarding women...


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Old 06-04-2009, 12:30 AM   #1635
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I have no idea what I'm doing and never have.

But at the moment my current track actually feels OK... and even if it doesn't lead anywhere, so what?

I know myself well enough to know that the time I spent trying to get to know her better wouldn't have been spent doing anything more constructive... and probably would have been spent alone, growing progressively despondent and bitter in my isolation.


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i look so much cooler without glasses. i miss contacts.




just ****ing around with my camera, waaaay too bright, but it looks awesome!


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I know what I'm doing. I snagged the girl of my dreams...and then lost her But it was more bad luck than anything, mixed with the complete irrationality of women. In the past, I've looked back and kicked myself, thinking "if only I had done that/not done that." This last time, though, even though it was apparently a failure in the end, I am quite satisfied that I did everything right. That does make it a little easier - no regrets on how I conducted things.
that does help

my biggest what if was one girl I dated that I never got serious with for no apparent reason, we were super compatible and really got along, then she graduated and moved and since we had never really dated dated, we lost touch


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