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Old 04-13-2009, 10:57 AM   #1
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What's the best RPG you've ever played?

I don't know if this has been done before but I figure, ah, what the the heck, I could use some recommendations for some good games to check out that I might not know about...

For me, it's a toss-up between Kotor and Morrowind...

Kotor is easy to follow, immersive, and fun. But Morrowind is the kind of sandbox RPG I've always wanted to play, because there's so much freedom to what you can do.

The pros & cons:

Kotor is great because it is perfectly made, and the story is awesome. but it's not a sandbox game. There just isn't enough freedom.

Morrowind is great because it's a sandbox game, and you have freedom to do anything you want. The problem though, is that Morrowind for the Xbox is extremely glitchy. Sometimes the game will crash every few hours, sometimes every few minutes. But as long as I clear the Xbox's Morrowind cache twice every time I play Morrowind and save often, it isn't a problem.

I wonder what Oblivion is like...

So, what about you people? What RPGs do you recommend? This isn't a debate over Kotor vs. the Elder Scrolls games, just a thread for opinions...


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Old 04-13-2009, 11:14 AM   #2
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IMO, you're playing one of the best ones
Oblivion is pretty fun.. better eye candy, but I like Morrowind better

of course KotOR & TSL should be in the list.. but..

Bladur's Gate
Baldur's Gate 2
Neverwinter Nights (and expansions) are THE 3 games I couldn't do without in my collection.

NWN2 not so much

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Old 04-13-2009, 11:22 AM   #3
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Give me five years, and I'll finally be able to buy and build a customized gaming supercomputer. Give this coming summer when school's out, and I'll be able to finally buy an Xbox 360.

As much as I love being able to mod games, at the moment I'm better off getting RPGs for a gaming console.

What is Baldur's gate, and what is Neverwinter Nights?


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Old 04-13-2009, 11:29 AM   #4
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What is Baldur's gate, and what is Neverwinter Nights?
* dies heartbroken *

Only the bestest rpg games. evar. imo, that is.
Although it is a PC based rpg (but not really tasking avideo card as much as today's games).

As far as Xbox RPG's. I have Morrowind, Oblivion, KotOR, TSL, Mass Effect and Fallout 3 (more of a shooter/RPG though). Hopefully some people who've had an Xbox longer than I can point you to some other goodies


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Old 04-13-2009, 12:02 PM   #5
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KotOR II, but I still haven't played PS:T yet, so that will probably change...
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Old 04-13-2009, 12:21 PM   #6
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KotOR is #1 on my list. My other favorites are Baldur's Gate, Baldur's Gate II, and Neverwinter Nights 2. ChAiNz we are opposite on that, I like 2 better than 1, but I have never played the NWN1 expansion packs, only the OC. I'd also throw The Sith Lords in there. But for Xbox only, well I haven't actually played any RPGs on that system but one I am looking to buy is Fable II, more of an action RPG but I guess it still counts.
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KotOR II, but I still haven't played PS:T yet, so that will probably change...
Torment is one that is on my to-play list also, I have the game, but have not gotten around to getting anywhere in it yet.


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Old 04-13-2009, 12:57 PM   #7
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If we allow hybrids in this thread, I'll put up my usual all-time favourite Deus Ex, if you don't mind. >_>

If not, I'd say Golden Sun along with its sequel as the best RPG I've ever played (a view most likely echoed by my mate Maverick here).

KotOR's good and all, but Golden Sun + The Lost Age has been the most memorable RPG I've ever played.


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Old 04-13-2009, 12:59 PM   #8
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I would say...

KOTOR
Neverwinter Nights 2
Mass Effect
Elder Scrolls: Oblivion

Oh...and some of the 90s classics, you know..with the pixel graphics? They're awesome


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Old 04-13-2009, 01:07 PM   #9
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KotOR 2, though I have yet to play or finish some of the classics that could influence my decision (Planescape: Torment, Deus Ex, Fallout 1 & 2, Baldur's Gate 1 & 2, the list goes on).


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Old 04-13-2009, 02:00 PM   #10
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1: Vampire the masquerade: Bloodlines, a black universe, with excelent gameplay and story and no roads to sainthood (well, possibly one, or is that martyrdom?).

2: Planescape: Torment: no, I haven't finished this game, so this is from what I have seen so far.
Pros:
Best story ever
Few lawfull stupid guys around
Sidequest is done because you want, not because you must.
LOOOOONG game means it has max value for money
Cons:
Gameplay is far from good, unless you enjoy the Baldurs Gate ish system
LOOOOOOOOONG game means I have played it since autumn, and probably won't finish it before summer hollidays.

3: The Witcher
Pros:
Grey universe
Good storyline (though worse than the other two)
Choices matter, more than in any other game, and often long after you made them, with plenty of unintended cosequences.
Decent gameplay
Cons:
misogyny
Sometimes the greyness is over the top

4: NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer
Pros
Excelent story
"Good" choices will depend a lot on the person
Nice, mostly nenutral companions

Cons:
The combat system is far from stellar

5: TSL
Pros/Cons: you all know them
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Old 04-13-2009, 02:16 PM   #11
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1. Mass Effect – So I don’t get drummed out of the Mass Effect fanboy club.
2. NWN – strictly because to the expansions and the fan made modules.
3. TSL
4. NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer (MotB only, it saved NWN2)
5. Morrowind – With all the mods out there you can fix the game to suit yourself.
6. Fallout 3/Oblivion – fun exploring games that can be modified to suit yourself.
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Old 04-13-2009, 02:20 PM   #12
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As much as i love the KOTOR series, i'd have to say Persona 3. The first time i played it, those hours of playing it, they were magical.
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Old 04-13-2009, 03:43 PM   #13
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1: Vampire the masquerade: Bloodlines, a black universe, with excelent gameplay and story and no roads to sainthood (well, possibly one, or is that martyrdom?).
Don't forget the great soundtrack. I'm really having fun with this one again at the moment.

Planescape: Torment -- enjoy this one with patience. The dialog is rich. I remember a couple hour-long sessions that had no combat. I was quite attached to my NPCs by the end of the game. When it was over, I realized I hadn't ever been affected by an RPG like that. @Moeller: I was the same way with Baldur's Gate 2 -- had it for a long time before I got around to playing it. Think of it like having money in the bank.

I would also mention that Fallout and Fallout 2 have aged pretty well due to their turn-based isometric combat and excellent character development system.



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Old 04-13-2009, 04:28 PM   #14
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Geez, ChAiNz, perhaps in that state I should neglect to mention that I hadn't really played BG till early last year. I wouldn't want to push you off a ledge. It was ok, but I'm not really into the whole D&D genre (ie swords/sorcerers thing).

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...I was the same way with Baldur's Gate -- had it for a long time before I got around to playing it. Think of it like having money in the bank.
that's how it worked for me with KOTOR. Got it Xmas '04 and didn't start playing it till spring '06.

My overall exp w/RPGs is limited. KOTOR, TSL, Mass Effect (mimartin'd probably murder me if I forgot to mention this one ) and BG. Right now, as far as a favorite might be concerned I'd probably say a tie between KOTOR and ME. Liked the various charachters overall, though preferred the party changing abilities of KOTOR over the more limited and cumbersome options in ME. KOTOR would probably get the overall edge, though, due to the wider range of mods available.


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Old 04-13-2009, 09:24 PM   #15
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I would also mention that Fallout and Fallout 2 have aged pretty well due to their turn-based isometric combat and excellent character development system.
Fallout 2's New Reno: Avellone the designer
Planescape: Torment: Avellone the writer
The Sith Lords: Avellone the sophisticated writer-designer

(My belief that TSL is better written than Torment will probably get me lynched but let me clarify: better written and structured, not more imaginative)


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Old 04-13-2009, 10:23 PM   #16
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Old 04-13-2009, 10:23 PM   #17
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In no particular order...

-The Sith Lords
-KOTOR I
-Mass Effect
-Deus Ex (Both I and II.)
-Planescape
-Ocarina Of Time (Not sure if some of you would consider this a RPG.)
-Final Fantasy X
-Kingdom Hearts I and II.


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Old 04-13-2009, 11:18 PM   #18
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If not, I'd say Golden Sun along with its sequel as the best RPG I've ever played (a view most likely echoed by my mate Maverick here).
What???? Did somebody just say Golden Sun?
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First of all, if you owned a Game Boy Advance and you did not own Golden Sun and it's sequel, Golden Sun: The Lost Age.... FOR SHAME!!!

Secondly, I play a lot of RPGs, but I can try and rank a top 3...

1. Chrono Trigger - if you haven't played this game, GTFO... Oh, and I can't believe nobody mentioned this before me >:[
2. Golden Sun - see above
3. Final Fantasy - (if you make me pick a number, I'd go with 7)

Oh? You say you want more awesome RPGs listed?

JRPGs
Final Fantasy - some are better than others, but I haven't played any I detest
Shin Megami Tensei series' i.e. Persona/Nocturne/DDS
Kingdom Hearts <3<3<3 - kinda more of an action RPG
Dragon Quest is mighty popular
Tales of series is another series with a solid fanbase
Pokémon -

SRPGS
Final Fantasy Tactics.... awesome
Disgaea
Valkyria Chronicles - if you own a PS3 you are required to play this game
Luminous Arc - DS series, sort of an anime art feel

WRPGs
KotOR
Fallout
Mass Effect
Admittedly I don't play many WRPGs

I know I'm forgetting a crapload of good games, but I can't be bothered to jog my memory atm.


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Old 04-14-2009, 02:28 AM   #19
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Oh! Was this only about PC RPG's?


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Like... still gotta play damn Golden Sun. It's won the poll of the most desired sequel some time ago at Gafaqs, beating KotOR 2. Gotta be either terribly good or amazingly unfinished.

Anyway, don't ask me to rate them, but my favorites are:


  • Kingdom Hearts - I never thought I'd enjoy a game with Goofy and Donald as protagonists that much.

  • Kingdom Hearts 2 - I never thought a Square game could beat the first KH.

  • Kingdom Hearts 2: Final Mix+ - C'mon, it IS a new game. Aside from the incredibly new KH2 with a nice amount of additions, we've got the Chains of Memories GBA remake! Only on Japanese, though.

    Also, I never thought I'd ever buy an enhanced edition of a game when already owning the original.

  • KotOR 1 - Any need for explanations?

  • Planescape: Torment - So, yeah, fight with your words. There.

  • Final Fantasy VI - Lucky me for playing this on GBA instead of getting the (said to be) horrible Snes translation. By doing so, I could throughly enjoy an excellent storyline, mechanics that decided the path of the next FF games to come and Kefka. Yeah, you can't do without Kefka.


    Final Fantasy VII - "OMGZ, OMGZ, THE BESTEST RPG ON THE WORLDZ *drools*". Not quite, but certain scenes and events that happened here won't ever cease to be pleasant memories.

  • Final Fantasy X - New turn-based fighting mechanics, VOICED DIALOG! and some memorable characters were gold on this game. Despite the American Graffity like storyline

  • Final Fantasy XII - The most underrated FF game in history, this one catched my attention for it's ability to complete suck you in the wonderful world of Ivalice. That, and the bravery to change the system so radically.

  • Star Ocean 3 'Till the end of time - Eh, disregarding the game's last 4/5, it was a very enjoyable game. Up until the ludicrous plot twist, I was having tons of fun on this odyssey that oddly resembles Star Trek in many ways. But the best Tri-Ace game on the console for me was....

  • Radiata Stories - Radiata. A simple city, heart to land with not-so-simple people, whom you must team-up with and add to your friend list. A light-hearted plot, with a protagonist that's simply comic, from the beggining to the end, but the story is conducted in such an ingenious way that even with his personality, we notice how much he matures during the adventure. Not mentioning "the choice" you have at about the middle of the game.

  • Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 (FES) - Dark story, dark gameplay, dark environment and bright game overrall.

  • Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 - Take all that dark atmosphere from P3 and change it to rainy or foggy. Nevertheless, another amazing game of the fanchise and of Atlus.


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Old 04-14-2009, 11:50 PM   #21
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Final Fantasy X is my favorite RPG of the ones I've played so far, because of its unique story. It kept surprising me all the way to the end!

Final Fantasy VI was the best of the the first six Final Fantasies (the ones with pixel graphics), but it still didn't have that great of a storyline, or very deep characters, IMO.

Morrowind was fun until I got over the "huge world, go anywhere, do anything" and discovered there wasn't much reason to go anywhere or do anything after beating the campaign... I think I like my RPGs focused more on story than sandbox.

KotOR of course is a given, why even list it?

Nox wasn't that original of a story (or perhaps game), but it had one of my favorite video game villains ever: Hecubah. Her voice acting was superb.

(There's a lot of great RPGs I still need to play...)
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I'd have to say either KOTOR, Fable, or Final Fantasy XII. Each one had me hooked at certain intervals.


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Old 04-15-2009, 08:33 AM   #23
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FF XII was undoubtedly my favourite (if you couldn't already tell ). The atmosphere was marvellous, and the characters all seemed more important to the story in their own right - no weak-link characters (like T3 in KotOR 1). AND, there was a better balance between cutscenes and actual gameplay. Finally, the villains were some of the best in any game I have played! While arguably not so memorable a Sephiroth in FF VII, they were still well-crafted characters.

I would have been glad to see a proper console sequel to this one - it's a pity that X-2 seemed to kill off all possibility of that...


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I would have been glad to see a proper console sequel to this one - it's a pity that X-2 seemed to kill off all possibility of that...
I assume you already know about the DS game since you said "proper console".

At any rate, FFXII: Revenant Wings smells much more like RTS than actual RPG. And, while it can hook you up until it ends, it's nowhere as near satisfying as the original was.


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I assume you already know about the DS game since you said "proper console".
Yep! It was the most recent game that I bought for the DS. Haven't finished it, though...I got to a stage where massive amounts of grinding are required in order to level up (the bit with meeting Balthier & Fran), so it got boring and was set aside...along with the DS...

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At any rate, FFXII: Revenant Wings smells much more like RTS than actual RPG. And, while it can hook you up until it ends, it's nowhere as near satisfying as the original was.
Very true. Somehow, it just doesn't feel as engrossing - maybe a bit too linear and too much a matter of 'brute force wins'...sure, you have to plan which elements to bring into a fight, but overwhelming numbers/level also works a treat. The Galbana (or whatever anyone else called their ship!) though was a nice touch, at least I thought so.


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Very true. Somehow, it just doesn't feel as engrossing - maybe a bit too linear and too much a matter of 'brute force wins'...sure, you have to plan which elements to bring into a fight, but overwhelming numbers/level also works a treat. The Galbana (or whatever anyone else called their ship!) though was a nice touch, at least I thought so.
Indeed, it was very... raw. You practically just have to considerate the strenght and weaknesses of each class (basically paper-rock-scissors) and their elemental powers. Could have been better.

And for some reason I named the ship Ebon Hawk. I know, I do that a lot.


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Old 04-16-2009, 12:21 AM   #27
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Kotor, VtMB, TSL, NWN2. I still need to play through NWN1 completely, along with BG2, along with PS:T, JE, ME, Deus Ex and Morrowind/Oblivion. I cannot bring myself to play Fable. After hearing my husband's character saying that cheesy "Heeeeeyyyy!" while pumping his fist, and the girlfriend/fiancee/wife swooning "I think I felt Albion move!!", I just can't take it seriously.

Of course, I got sucked into Guild Wars, then LotRO, then Rock Band, and GTA: Chinatown Wars on DS, along with a creative writing class this semester....


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There may be a lot of CRPGs out there that are better in specific areas, but I have to say that Baldur's Gate 2 is the best all-around CRPG that I've ever played. It is not outstanding in any one area save combat, but overall it's the most fun that I've ever had with a CRPG. Bioware has yet to top it. They came close with KotOR, but KotOR isn't nearly as complex and as long as BG2.

Anyone who gets annoyed with how ridiculously easy most CRPGs are will love it.


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Old 04-16-2009, 02:39 AM   #29
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Do not get Neverwinter Nights. Most terrible game, and IMO one of the most over-rated pieces of garbage to ever spew from the terrors of the gaming industry.

Seeing as you've almost certainly played K1 and TSL, I'd recommend Deus Ex and Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, 2 brilliant games, although I haven't played the latter much.


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Old 04-16-2009, 02:46 AM   #30
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You must have played NWN's OC.

Compared to BG2, NWN was indeed a disappointment.


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Morrowind: Great sandbox game. In fact, probably the best sandbox style rpg I've ever played. Story is solid and the writing is above average (imho). Best on the PC due to number of high quality mods that take it from "good for it's time" to "wow!". If you do get Morrowind for the PC, install the expansions but don't play them. The features they add are very much worthwhile, and the areas themselves would be great as stand-alone games, but trying to play them in conjunction with the main story just sucks.

Oblivion: Better sandbox, but apparently they spent so much time on bells and whistles that they forgot to develop the story. If you just want to walk around a kill stuff, collect goodies, and do random side quests in a very pretty setting, play Oblivion. If you want to be engaged in any way, shape, or form play Morrowind.

VtM:B: Hard not to recommend this one. The settings feel confined (who knew that the streets in downtown L.A. were only about 10 feet wide ), but that's a very minor complaint. Don't let your parents know you have this one

NWN: When I got to Act II and I still wasn't the slightest bit interested, I uninstalled it and got rid of it.

NWN2: I'm a NWN2 fanboy. I think it's a fantastic game and I don't care who disagrees with me. MotB is even better.

The Witcher: I like Witcher. A lot. I also dislike it a lot too. The story has a lot of wholes in it. The devs deserve an A+ for effort for the enhanced edition, but I noticed a lot of (relatively minor) bugs. Most of gripes I have which are not related to the story itself are mostly related to my anal retentive style of game play. Even though this game failed to live up to it's potential, there is more than enough there to earn a recommendation.

KotOR: I liked KotOR for a long time, but I cannot recommend it. KotOR was the first game I played after a 14 year hiatus, and compared to Super Mario Bros. 3 it was indeed a whole new world. After playing some other games and seeing how much the industry really had changed, it became difficult to stomach KotOR's sophomoric writing.

TSL: Definitely an improvement on KotOR. The game itself was not as polished as it could have been but the writing more than makes up for it.

Mass Effect: Another Bioware tragedy. This game could have been so awesome. Mass Effect helped me to realize that Bioware is a company full of very talented, very imaginative game developers that really aren't 100% on board with the whole "story-telling" thing. I hope they continue to churn out really good ideas...that other developers can then use to make interesting games with compelling stories.

Baldur's Gate: Played it. Don't understand what the hype is about. FWIW, I think my opinion is obviously skewed by the fact that I played it loooooong after it originally came out. *shrugs*

Planescape:Torment: Really great game. Probably the best writing of any game listed here with a story that I would consider to be better than most. Obviously, you're not going to play this one for the graphics or the amazing DnD experience, but certainly a game you should play if you want to see why some people argue that this is an art form.

So to summarize, I would definitely recommend PC Morrowind (modded), Planescape:Torment, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, The Sith Lords, and NWN2/MotB.

I would definitely recommend not wasting your time with Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect or NWN1

Oblivion and The Witcher are games that you probably won't feel as though you've wasted part of your life playing, but probably shouldn't be at the top of your list either.

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Compared to BG2, NWN was indeed a disappointment.
Yeah, I think that's it. Moreover, it's a terribly slow game.


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Old 04-16-2009, 09:14 AM   #33
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Play HotU. That's aimed at the people ****ting on NWN after playing the OC or part of the OC, which, while better than SotU, is crap compared to HotU.



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Old 04-16-2009, 09:58 AM   #34
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:37 AM   #35
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Play HotU. That's aimed at the people ****ting on NWN after playing the OC or part of the OC, which, while better than SotU, is crap compared to HotU.
No argument here. I rate SoU as equal to the OC in crappiness/boredom, whereas HotU was actually fun.
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Oh, yeah. I love Morrowind. After installing about 1GB of mods, I'm about to give it another playthrough.
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Baldur's Gate: Played it. Don't understand what the hype is about. FWIW, I think my opinion is obviously skewed by the fact that I played it loooooong after it originally came out. *shrugs*
Did you play Baldur's Gate 2? They're two very different games, IMO.


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Old 04-16-2009, 12:50 PM   #36
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Baldur's Gate 2 was alot of fun. So was Icewind Dale 1 & 2. The later being my most favourite. Sadly I never got to finish IWD2 because it bugged out at at the chapter where youre supposed to make some potion or something. Couldnt even cheat code out of it. :|

NWN was boring compared to the other mentioned games.
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that's tough... it's between Fable TLC, Fable 2 and KotOR...
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I just finished FF7, and I can't help but feel this is the most over-hyped RPG I've ever played. The characters are rather stereotypical, and the translation really could use some work. The story was interesting, and had a few cool parts, but overall wasn't exactly outstanding. The graphics haven't aged well, either. I guess I'd be more impressed with it if I'd played it when it first came out (though I was only 8 yrs old then). Now it just seems like other games have done the same thing better. I was hoping for a little more because of all the hype associated with it.


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Too many unfamiliar acronyms...


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Play HotU. That's aimed at the people ****ting on NWN after playing the OC or part of the OC, which, while better than SotU, is crap compared to HotU.
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Too many unfamiliar acronyms...
NWN = Neverwinter Nights (1)
OC = Original/Official Campaign (of Neverwinter Nights)
SotU = Dunno, but if you drop the t: Shadows of Undrentide, the first NWN expansion pack
HotU = Hordes of the Underdark, the second NWN expansion pack


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I just finished FF7, and I can't help but feel this is the most over-hyped RPG I've ever played. The characters are rather stereotypical, and the translation really could use some work. The story was interesting, and had a few cool parts, but overall wasn't exactly outstanding. The graphics haven't aged well, either. I guess I'd be more impressed with it if I'd played it when it first came out (though I was only 8 yrs old then). Now it just seems like other games have done the same thing better. I was hoping for a little more because of all the hype associated with it.
Unfortunately, I've found that listening to and trusting hype leads to almost inevitable disappointment.

I first played it not long after it came out, without having heard any of the hype other than a friend (the one who gave me it) saying 'it's a good game'. I found the overall depth of the world and the quantity of optional quests, characters, powers, fights and weapons to be one of its strengths. Not to mention how long it is - I was at the game weeks before I was off the first disc! Compare that to the bulk of modern games, where you get 20-30 hours of gameplay at most - some far less than that (TFU - 8 hrs).

As for the characters, they may have been, to some, 'stereotypes' - but at least all had a significant story attached to them - and that's nine characters.

Yes, many games have taken elements from the game - but that to me attests to its popularity and success. Bear in mind that those who took such elements have had twelve years to improve on them. And there are many who would say that there hasn't yet been a game that surpasses it. Even the graphics at that point were remarkable - consider that it was the first 3D FF game, and the limitations of the systems available at the time.

Sorry to hear that you weren't particularly impressed with it, though. To each his own!


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