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Old 06-10-2009, 12:59 PM   #1
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Fixing the Special Edition poster :)

As I have stated elsewhere I have no problem with Guybrush's new hair, I know many do. However I hate how he looks on the new poster/cover.

Gone is his fearful look of amazement, and now he has this stupid goofy grin and his hair is ten feet tall! Don't mind the hair on the sprite or the closeups, in fact I think it is amusing. He looks like a very lovable dork to me. However I think the hair and face on the poster is hideous! So I went about fixing it.

And viola, here is how I think the cover should look, keeping his hair in the same style at the SE sprite and closeups but fixing it to not look stupid and putting his face the way it was on the original poster -



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Original SE version



EDIT :-

I just created a high definition version of this poster so I can display it and show my love for the SE of Monkey Island (sans hideous surfer moron Guybrush).

Thought I would share it here for anyone that wanted it. Working on a wallpaper now too.

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EDIT: Link to wallpaper -

http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=198410

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Old 06-10-2009, 01:31 PM   #2
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Holycrap! that looks way better! Its almost the exact same expression on their faces.
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Old 06-10-2009, 01:43 PM   #3
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Damn, that does look a LOT better! I wanna play that game now!

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Old 06-10-2009, 01:50 PM   #4
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Yeah, your new version does look a lot better. I don't think his new sprite is that bad, just that poster.


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Old 06-10-2009, 03:21 PM   #5
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Sweet.


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Old 06-10-2009, 03:43 PM   #6
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Haha, that is pretty good. They should make you the new art director on the next game.
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Old 06-10-2009, 04:25 PM   #7
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Why is it important for Guybrush to have exactly the same expression as on the old poster?


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Old 06-10-2009, 04:30 PM   #8
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Well there are a whole host of reasons, the first being that the stupid smirk on his face does not suite his character at all.

I would also say for me that when I first saw this poster in an Amiga magazine, it was Guybrush's face along with the name that attracted me to the game in the first place. For me Guybrush was staring straight into the secret of Monkey island and was both amazed and afraid. And it made me want to discover the secret for myself.

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Old 06-10-2009, 04:37 PM   #9
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Jeez...it's just a cover for a game that I don't think will ever have a retail store debut anyway...I mean...I understand your complaints but I think people need to realize that it's not that big of a deal...

It's the same kind of argument when the Star Wars: SE came out...I understand that people didn't want the changes on some feeling of nostalgia...but when we look at it now...the movies didn't really lose their magic because of it and it's the same thing here...

I consider what I'm getting out of this (a classic LA adventure) rather than what's "wrong" with it...



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Old 06-10-2009, 04:56 PM   #10
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Jeez...it's just a cover for a game that I don't think will ever have a retail store debut anyway...I mean...I understand your complaints but I think people need to realize that it's not that big of a deal...
Who said it was a big deal? And who suggested they were not incredibly happy about the new SE version? Nobody here.

We're just having some fun nitpicking at it. I hate the look of Guybrush on the poster but it doesn't change how I feel about the game.

So either I play around making it look like I want and talk BS with other MI lovers or sit on my hands waiting for the game to come out.

Don't be so defensive, we can nit pick if we want. I think my poster is way better and when they release a wallpaper version, I'm changing it to look like mine. Because as much as I am in-love with the SE, I can't look at the stupid smug grin.
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Old 06-10-2009, 05:09 PM   #11
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It is a shame you can't order a DVD, even if it won't appear in shops. I'd like to have a new Monkey Island game in my disc collection!


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Old 06-10-2009, 05:17 PM   #12
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Yeah, that would be nice. I'd definitely get a DVD copy if it was available.


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Old 06-10-2009, 05:18 PM   #13
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Yeah, that would be nice. I'd definitely get a DVD copy if it was available.
Me too! (although I'd change the cover to my version )

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Old 06-10-2009, 05:56 PM   #14
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I hope the digital download is DRM-free (at least to the point of having an install file that you don't need the internet to run). If such is the case I'll just burn it on a disc and make my own DVD slip cover.


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Old 06-10-2009, 06:03 PM   #15
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I hope the digital download is DRM-free (at least to the point of having an install file that you don't need the internet to run).
Yeah, that'll happen! (Not.)

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Old 06-10-2009, 06:09 PM   #16
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Why is it important for Guybrush to have exactly the same expression as on the old poster?
It's got nothing to do with him having the same expression... it just looks a lot better. As parabolee points out, his expression does a great job of drawing you into the picture. I actually want to find out what's going on when I look at it. I also just happened to show it to my girlfriend, who isn't interested in Monkey Island in any way, and she echoed parabolee's comments without any prompting. It just simply looks more interesting.

It may have been inspired by Purcell's original artistic choices, but it's not better simply because it's similar to the original. (What type of mindless type of mindless sheep do you take us for?)

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Old 06-10-2009, 06:35 PM   #17
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Who said it was a big deal? And who suggested they were not incredibly happy about the new SE version? Nobody here.

We're just having some fun nitpicking at it. I hate the look of Guybrush on the poster but it doesn't change how I feel about the game.

So either I play around making it look like I want and talk BS with other MI lovers or sit on my hands waiting for the game to come out.

Don't be so defensive, we can nit pick if we want. I think my poster is way better and when they release a wallpaper version, I'm changing it to look like mine. Because as much as I am in-love with the SE, I can't look at the stupid smug grin.
I understand that...but if you look at the 15 other threads that nitpick and complain about his look you might start to get the feeling that there's something seriously wrong with the game in the first place.



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Old 06-10-2009, 06:47 PM   #18
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I understand that...but if you look at the 15 other threads that nitpick and complain about his look you might start to get the feeling that there's something seriously wrong with the game in the first place.
You mean the two other threads?

You shouldn't be so defensive. I HATE the new look of Guybrush... but DAMN if I can't wait to play this new version!

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Old 06-10-2009, 07:29 PM   #19
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^yeah I know you're right.



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Old 06-10-2009, 07:30 PM   #20
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Yeah, I guess I should add that I'm also definitely buying and playing through the special edition in the future. It really just bugs me that they are so close to making nearly everyone happy since the two universal complaints, besides the poster expression, seems to be 1) Guybrush's sprite is ugly and 2) Guybrush's hair is ugly. Just seems they failed to test that out with people's impressions first.

But that's not the biggest deal really. All of the other characters look great to me. Elaine looks fine. LeChuck looks really cool. The Sword Trainer is awesome. Just weird they would mess up Guybrush, the most important character. It's like they wanted to make a Guybrush so different and memorable from the rest that they got something that really wasn't suitable. The backgrounds and such may be a little stiff, but eh, so were some of the originals.

Either way, the game is well worth it, especially since it will be coming out as a budget title.
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Old 06-10-2009, 07:42 PM   #21
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I just wish they'd hurry up and release it! I have a horrible fear that some idiot in LucasArts is holding back the SE until Tales of MI is released, in order "capitalize" on whatever publicity it gets.

Releasing the SE now would be perfect -- everyone is talking about Monkey Island and excited about it again. Lots of people would be happy to play it in order to "prepare" for the bigger/more time-consuming adventure that's coming... It will also be a great way for NEW players to see what the fuss is about (I'm sure a lot of people will feel they NEED to play to the original before embarking on a new sequel-series). The budget release of SOMI:SE now would allow them to do just that.

As soon as Tales gets released, however, it will change the current excitable feeling surrounding MI. All discussions will be focussed on how Tales measures up to the original series... Releasing the SE at this point would just saturate the market with MI, probably get lost in all the critical debate, and just plain confuse newcomers.

The SE is probably going to cost somewhere between $15 and $20 (I would assume the latter, considering it took 8 months to make), so newcomers are going to be faced with a confusing option: Get the latest, brand new, 5-episode series of MI for $35 or pay $20 for a remake of the 1990 original... How many people looking to try out Monkey Island are going to say "both"?

They're essentially shutting off all sales from new MI players... It's nuts.

They should strike NOW while the iron is hot and get it out!


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Old 06-10-2009, 08:02 PM   #22
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I just wish they'd hurry up and release it! I have a horrible fear that some idiot in LucasArts is holding back the SE until Tales of MI is released, in order "capitalize" on whatever publicity it gets.
Why do I get this sinking feeling that what you said there is exactly the reason why we have yet to get a release date for SMI:SE.
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Old 06-10-2009, 08:11 PM   #23
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They have said it will be released around the same time as Tales so I wouldn't expect it till July.


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Old 06-10-2009, 09:11 PM   #24
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They haven't officially announced when SMI is gonna be released, but July is the assumed date isn't it? Their merchandise will start shipping in July, so I think that'd be the best bet right?



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Old 06-10-2009, 09:45 PM   #25
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I have a feeling it will be at least a few weeks before Tales myself. When asked they said very very soon. I'm pretty sure it will be any week now, my bet would be the 24th (XBLA games usually hit Wednesday).
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Old 06-11-2009, 03:42 AM   #27
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I hope you dont mind parabolee but i posted a link your new version to the facebook fanpage for monkey island adventures where it got nothing but positive feedback, even from Craig Derrick the project lead !!

Fantastic work

p.s. sorry for spelling your name wrong twice in my original post

EDIT: apperently facebook either completely dropped the comment/like system or their having some bug. unfortunately this means all comments are gone, including the dev Q&A thankfully thunderpeel transcribed, hopefully its just a bug and the comments will be back after

EDIT2: And they're back, whew


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I have a feeling it will be at least a few weeks before Tales myself. When asked they said very very soon. I'm pretty sure it will be any week now, my bet would be the 24th (XBLA games usually hit Wednesday).
I hope it's that soon! That would be amazing!



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Old 06-11-2009, 10:01 AM   #29
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I hope you dont mind parabolee but i posted a link your new version to the facebook fanpage for monkey island adventures where it got nothing but positive feedback, even from Craig Derrick the project lead !!

Fantastic work

p.s. sorry for spelling your name wrong twice in my original post

EDIT2: And they're back, whew
Cool, thanks. How cool would it be if they changed the artwork!? Having the original artist change the face to one closer to this head.

I really think less people would complain about his hair if their first exposure was this image rather than the horrible original.
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I hope you dont mind parabolee but i posted a link your new version to the facebook fanpage for monkey island adventures where it got nothing but positive feedback, even from Craig Derrick the project lead !!
Where's the quote from Craig Derrick??

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Where's the quote from Craig Derrick??
He didn't posts a message, just clicked I LIKE THIS. See the who likes this post info under the original post.
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For me Guybrush was staring straight into the secret of Monkey island and was both amazed and afraid. And it made me want to discover the secret for myself.
This articulates it really well. I love that those old covers made you ask questions or feel inquisitive.
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Purcell's Zak McKracken cover is in a way closer in tone to the new Monkey Island Special Edition cover. It's funny how just a characters expression can change the tone from a story being told within a cover to the normal, "Hey this is a game with these characters."

Monkey Island 2 is my favorite of the LucasArts covers. Hell, any Steve Purcell cover gets me all giddy. The Telltale Sam and Max covers were great in terms of color theory and atmosphere. I can't wait to see what he comes up with for the new Tales of Monkey Island DVD.
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I just created a high definition of this poster so I can display it and show my love for the SE of Monkey Island (sans hideous surfer moron Guybrush).

Thought I would share it here for anyone that wanted it. Working on a wallpaper now too.

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Niiiiiiiice. You took that shot of Guybrush from the scene where he's looking at the parrot, didn't you? That bit of blue on his face to the left gives it away. Any way you can change the colour to a normal flesh tone?


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Niiiiiiiice. You took that shot of Guybrush from the scene where he's looking at the parrot, didn't you? That bit of blue on his face to the left gives it away. Any way you can change the colour to a normal flesh tone?
Well in the new hi-def version I did I changed the blue to yellow to match the original poster better.
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how did you incorporate the cannibals and ghost ship into this?

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It still looks a little too blue on the left side of his face.

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how did you incorporate the cannibals and ghost ship into this?
They were already there....


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I just created a high definition of this poster so I can display it and show my love for the SE of Monkey Island (sans hideous surfer moron Guybrush).

Thought I would share it here for anyone that wanted it. Working on a wallpaper now too.

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Very-very cool I look forward to printing this out

While ill probably still order the original purely to satisfy the collector in me this one will hang right beside it

It would be ridiculously cool if they change the poster themselves though...

Unfortunately though the fact that there is already products listed in the LA store probably means the the final proofs are signed off on and they're at print as we speak (Which is total shame as your redone scene captures the tone so well)

That right there is Serendipity, hopefully they are able to capitalize on it in some way. Never pass up serendipity, its a gift


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It still looks a little too blue on the left side of his face.
OK how's this -



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how did you incorporate the cannibals and ghost ship into this?
I found a nice high definition version of the poster which had the layout you see here.

Which was lucky because I didn't feel like hours moving everything around. Although I got some work to do to get the layout to work as a wallpaper. Which is what I am working on now.
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