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Old 06-21-2009, 04:37 PM   #41
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Old 06-22-2009, 07:29 PM   #42
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Unfortunately it looks like this whole thing is going to turn bloody. The Iranian government is cracking down on the protesters, and even went so far as to have several family members of a cleric who was aligning himself with the opposition arrested.

I would love to see the Iranian people get what they want, but it doesn't seem like Ayatollah Khameni will allow it, and he is the one pulling the strings.


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Old 06-22-2009, 08:23 PM   #43
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The more protesters they kill, the stronger the resistance movement becomes. As of now, most of resistance has been civil, even when faced with total violence. Yet, I could see it turning into an all-out civil war if Mousavi is either arrested or assassinated, by government-aligned militiamen or the government itself. That is probably one of the few chances of actual change in Iran, unless if an external power intervenes, though that is highly unlikely, as of now.
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:24 PM   #44
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^^^the change or the intervention?
I agree: The more they do (Iran's leadership) to suppress its people, the worse it seems to get for them.

Ah the internet and all those mobile devices capturing this...history in the making. News media around the world. It's all here. Normally I gripe at the media because it is so petty, but in this case it is offering a solution to a real problem.

Power to those people.

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Old 06-22-2009, 10:21 PM   #45
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I'm sure a few people have seen this already, its a video of a university student named Neda just after being shot by a Basiji sniper for protesting. Its spreading like fire over the internet and certainly isnt winning Amidinajad any positive support from the rest of the world.
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Old 06-22-2009, 10:27 PM   #46
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Ahmedenijad wasn't winning any popularity contests before this election. In reality, any action by the military is likely being ordered by the Ayatollah Khameni. He is the real power behind Iran's theocracy.


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Old 06-23-2009, 12:06 AM   #47
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Well, here's hoping for a fairly civil revolution if that's what it comes to.


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Old 06-24-2009, 05:40 PM   #48
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Not holding my breath, with the possibility of Ahmadinejad having actually won the election in the first place still there, it's not even certain that a revolution would be "the peoples choice". That, and Rafsanjanis dance isn't going too well lately, which means that even if Mousavi gets to be press (unlikely), it'll probably not be much change in areas such as foreign policy and the judicary.
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