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Old 07-02-2009, 10:02 PM   #1
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Live Action Star Wars TV Show?

Well I have been waiting and waiting since I heard that George Lucas was going to make a live action tv show about SW, Can some one give me info? cause since then I have not heard nothing about it, only that George was starting to look for actors and casting for the tv show.



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Old 07-02-2009, 10:15 PM   #2
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Even if it is eventually produced, I wouldn't place too much hope in its being any good.

Not a guarantee that it's going to suck, but, given the course of events over the past ten years...


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Old 07-02-2009, 10:37 PM   #3
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The space between Episode 3 and 4 is pretty neutral, so it probably can't be that bad. They haven't tried to make anything out of the original trilogy, so I'd give it about a 50/50 chance of being good.

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Not having Jedi is a big plus, IMO.

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Old 07-03-2009, 01:29 PM   #5
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Not having Jedi is a big plus, IMO.
Agreed. Star Wars needs more focus on everyone else. Far too one-sided.
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Old 07-03-2009, 01:30 PM   #6
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They should make a Republic Commando TV-series.

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Old 07-03-2009, 03:01 PM   #7
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I wouldn't say not having Jedi would make it better, but it will help the production team delve a little deeper into the continuity, and hopefully pull away from the recent samey Clone Wars/Jedi centric palette. I've been praying for some Original trilogy Love for a very long time now, eg: I was hoping TUF was gonna balance out the continuity, yet it went even more over the top... Lets see if the TV show will do it.


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Old 07-03-2009, 05:51 PM   #8
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Yeah, I'm hoping the series will lean more to the original trilogy than the prequels and Clone Wars. Keeping out the Jedi would certainly help, the focus on the Jedi in the PT and CW were a bit too much. On the other hand, Jedi have always been a part of what makes Star Wars different from anything else, but luckily, Star Wars has much more elements that make it distinguishable than only Jedi.


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Old 07-03-2009, 06:08 PM   #9
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It would be cool to have something about the Clone Troopers transition to Stormtroopers, with an occasional appearance by K'Kruhk.

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I think that having no jedi appearing will give the audience a new perspective on how life in the Star Wars universe works. For most of the films we've seen mostly Jedi so I'm really looking forward to this.

I'm still hoping that Asajj Ventress makes an apperance though, even if it's a minor one.
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Old 07-03-2009, 08:26 PM   #11
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Yeah, I mean what about the histories of Han Solo, Kyle Katarn, and Dash Rendar? Other folks like that? I have enjoyed stuff like Jedi Outcast, but I will always view the Ord Mantell Junkyard level on Shadows of the Empire as bomb ass.
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Old 07-03-2009, 08:47 PM   #12
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It might be interesting to put less emphasis on jedi/sith and on other charachters. But w/o either it really could then be any scifi show. I suppose of they were reduced to secondary or tertiary status, that'd be quite fine. As long as the stories are good, that's all that would really count.


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something includint the mandalorians would be nice as well


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Old 07-04-2009, 01:19 PM   #14
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I would like to see more scoundrels and bounty hunters, and as well some action like a battle or something like that.



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Old 07-04-2009, 03:09 PM   #15
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It might be interesting to put less emphasis on jedi/sith and on other charachters. But w/o either it really could then be any scifi show. I suppose of they were reduced to secondary or tertiary status, that'd be quite fine. As long as the stories are good, that's all that would really count.
Yeah, without recognizable characters there could be a fair disconnect from Star Wars.

I am assuming that "no jedi" simply means that none of the main characters are Jedi, but we'll most likely see some force users now and then.

The Clone Wars TV show has episodes now and then that focus entirely on the clones, and they are actually decent episodes so I could see a series living off of that.
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I would like to see more scoundrels and bounty hunters, and as well some action like a battle or something like that.
Agreed. Star Wars has been all about huge fleets and armies organized by admirals and generals directing forces with finely ingrained military tactics. The wars we have been fighting have been more difficult than we ever expected because we envisioned our opposition using the same tactics of the Soviet Union.
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:57 AM   #17
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Yeah, without recognizable characters there could be a fair disconnect from Star Wars.
I am assuming that "no jedi" simply means that none of the main characters are Jedi, but we'll most likely see some force users now and then.
The Clone Wars TV show has episodes now and then that focus entirely on the clones, and they are actually decent episodes so I could see a series living off of that.
I would overall tend to agree. I wasn't really clear about whether the distinction was one of no jedi/sith charachters in any episodes, perhaps mentioned only in passing, or merely no jedi/sith main roles in such a series. SW is a big enough universe that you could create decent plots w/little or no use of J/S. Just pick good actors and writers.

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The wars we have been fighting have been more difficult than we ever expected because we envisioned our opposition using the same tactics of the Soviet Union.
I think that after Vietnam we realized that an insurgency/guerrilla campaign was a real possibility. Probably even factored into the concept of being abble to handle "2-1/2 wars" before the Clinton era builddown. Given that Iraq was a former Soviet client state, not unrealistic. Don't believe anyone really saw the Afghan campaign as the same. Whole thing sort of reminds you of the old saying...careful what you wish for, you might just get it (and the other about no plan surviving contact with the enemy).


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Old 07-06-2009, 01:19 PM   #18
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you know, they could introduce a few main characters w/out jedi. For example, Han Solo could be the pilot, and they could have Chewie on the ship as well. Of course they would have to make it just after he quit the imperial army...




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I think that having no jedi appearing will give the audience a new perspective on how life in the Star Wars universe works.
This makes it sound like you haven't watched the OT.

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The Clone Wars TV show has episodes now and then that focus entirely on the clones, and they are actually decent episodes so I could see a series living off of that.

Yeah im no fan of the show but having episodes that are entierly focused on the clones if pretty cool


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I would like to see more characters interacting amongst one another outside of the action sequences... that would make the shows cheaper to produce as well. In Star Trek DS9, they had characters grow closer towards one another and form friendships where there were none to begin with. In the Movies, that happened as well minus about 95% of the content you needed to show why two people became close friends. The rest was just assumed to have happened off screen. More 'onscreen' content.
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Old 07-07-2009, 06:52 PM   #22
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You know, that sounds a lot like character development, which was something that was actually featured in the OT. One of the main reasons that the PT sucked as badly as it did was because the character development was so visibly absent, IMO.


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Yeah, I know necro... but I really didn't want to create a new thread just for this. Besides, this thread is more relevant than the ones about the cartoon or the budget per episode

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“It takes place between episodes three and four, when Luke Skywalker was growing up as a teenager, but it has nothing to do with Luke,” he said, adding that there is no young Luke Skywalker in any of the episodes."
boooooooo... was hoping more in line with the KotOR time period. I'm over the PT/OT years

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boooooooo... was hoping more in line with the KotOR time period. I'm over the PT/OT years
As far as I can remember, they've always said that any live-action series would be set between the Trilogies.

I agree it's overdone, but this show, if it ever sees the light, has always been Lucas' plaything, and we all know he couldn't give a Gundark's ass about anything beyond his perhaps limited view.






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But if it is more focused on smugglers and gangsters and the like, I think that would be great.

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Then there is the $50,000 cost per episode that needs to drop before this can even get started.


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As far as I can remember, they've always said that any live-action series would be set between the Trilogies.
True.. just wishful thinking on my part

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But if it is more focused on smugglers and gangsters and the like, I think that would be great.
Definitely! And from the mention of the underground bosses/drugs/prostitution bit (though just descriptor words for the article I'm sure).. I'd say it will be more attuned to that seedier line. At least on a grittier path than we've seen before.

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Then there is the $50,000 cost per episode that needs to drop before this can even get started.
True enough.. but hell, stick the Star Wars name on anything and ad revenue will pour in. Networks will fight to carry that brand. Like it or not, The Clone Wars pulled Cartoon Network to the top of all animated networks and Guinness World Records awarded it "the highest rated sci-fi animation currently on television". I don't think cost would be "too" big of a factor as long as it carried the Star Wars name.


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True enough.. but hell, stick the Star Wars name on anything and ad revenue will pour in. Networks will fight to carry that brand. Like it or not, The Clone Wars pulled Cartoon Network to the top of all animated networks and Guinness World Records awarded it "the highest rated sci-fi animation currently on television". I don't think cost would be "too" big of a factor as long as it carried the Star Wars name.

I agree. GL hasn't killed that goose yet. I'm sure that when it gets to the point of flogging a dead horse, they'll still squeeze more $$ out than many an original concept show.


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But if it is more focused on smugglers and gangsters and the like, I think that would be great.
Yeah, I could get into that. I'm more interested in wretched hives of scum and villainy than anything involving the Jedi at this point.


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A $50,000 price tag per episode seems really low to me.


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A $50,000 price tag per episode seems really low to me.
Doesn't Lucasfilm have to fund it all by themselves, though? Where other shows have the fundings of the tv networks, Lucas does tend to work independently.


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Doesn't Lucasfilm have to fund it all by themselves, though? Where other shows have the fundings of the tv networks, Lucas does tend to work independently.
Why would they do that? Does that warrant all the revenue for them too?


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I just can't get over the fact that it seems most Star Wars fans hate Jedi...

It's like saying "Yea, I'd go see the new X-Men movie, but the Mutants have just been done too much. I love the universe they created for it, though. I just want a movie without Mutants in that universe!"


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I just can't get over the fact that it seems most Star Wars fans hate Jedi...

It's like saying "Yea, I'd go see the new X-Men movie, but the Mutants have just been done too much. I love the universe they created for it, though. I just want a movie without Mutants in that universe!"
Well, originally SW had very little do to with the Force and Force users. Actually, as much as telekinesis, mind tricks and lightsabers were cool, the firefights in land, the dogfights in space and the Galactic Civil War - which had more of the previous two than any Jedi/Sith action - were the selling points for me back in the OT days. And I'm sure many people would agree.

I'm certain most people are ok with seeing Jedi waving sabers around (although that should make little sense on the timeline they've chosen (then again, after TFU and some comics, maybe not)); what they're asking for is that the series is not centered on the Jedi or Sith, instead focusing on the riff-raff of the galaxy and other minor groups.


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I was under the impression that he claimed each episode would cost around $50 million.

Besides, no matter when the story takes place, I have absolutely no faith in this show as long as Lucas is in charge of script-writing.
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It was $50 million, and I just took it as Lucasspeak for "We're not working on it".


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Its gonna be in about 10 years, and its gonna be bad, and its gonna screw continuity, and its gonna divide fans... Its just... Gonna... Suck.

George Lucas' Star Wars is now garbage, Its like all along he wanted to be Walt Disney, but people with integrity pointed him in the right direction... I dont believe for a second that this supposed Live action show will be about Criminals drugs and Prostitution in an Original Trilogy setting, It will be about a small boy who loses his toy wampa, but a kind older bearded man tells him about the magical fairy people of Nolnoidia, and they all lived happily ever after, and some politics, and a Gungan.


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I dont believe for a second that this supposed Live action show will be about Criminals drugs and Prostitution in an Original Trilogy setting, It will be about a small boy who loses his toy wampa, but a kind older bearded man tells him about the magical fairy people of Nolnoidia, and they all lived happily ever after, and some politics, and a Gungan.
Ain't that the truth... Hell they took Spice outta Star Wars Galaxies, because it was kinda sorta a drug reference. They made a kinder gentler Han who's reacting to a shot instead of shooting first. They put JarJar Binks into the movie...

And to those that think it's strange that those who love the OT tend to not like Jedi, time how much screen time sabers get in the OT. There was far more space action and blaster action than saber action.


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And to those that think it's strange that those who love the OT tend to not like Jedi, time how much screen time sabers get in the OT. There was far more space action and blaster action than saber action.
I also think it's partly because the prequels destroyed the mysticism surrounding Jedi. The OT used the exposure of lightsaber fights and force attacks scarcely, while the prequels completely destroyed the myth, from the revelation of midichlorians to battles with hundreds of Jedi fighting beside troopers. It made the appearance of Jedi less special.

I think it's a good idea for the Live Action series to leave out Jedi and Sith, since it's been overexposured and is just one part of what makes Star Wars cool.

@CAD: I may have interpreted it wrong, but I was under the impression Lucas created his own studio as not be dependent of other studios who would curb his creativity (heh, yeah, I know) and that he would continue to do so with all his projects, and that both the funding and the revenue would be in Lucasfilms' hands.


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Well, originally SW had very little do to with the Force and Force users. Actually, as much as telekinesis, mind tricks and lightsabers were cool, the firefights in land, the dogfights in space and the Galactic Civil War - which had more of the previous two than any Jedi/Sith action - were the selling points for me back in the OT days. And I'm sure many people would agree.
Totally agree. When I was growing up Han was the coolest because he had the ship and got the girl. Everyone wanted to be X-Wing pilots. In the winter we pretended we were troopers on Hoth. Most people had never heard of the Sith, and at best only knew that Vader was one.

I like Jedi as much as the next fan, but to me and many older fans, there is a lot more that makes Star Wars cool than Jedi. That is why I don't really agree with the X-Men analogy.

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