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Old 06-17-2009, 07:53 AM   #1
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Meatgrinder Returns! (High Speed JA DS, up 24/7!)

Yep, folks, I finally broke down and rented a server. So, after eons of downtime, and my recent attempts at hosting sporadically off my home PC, I've thrown in for a decent server from EscapedTurkey for the summer.


Now I repeat, this is ONLY for the summer. I probably won't have the cash to spare or time to monitor it after this, so enjoy it while you can!

I'm currently uploading files and tweaking settings, so if you try it now, it may be buggy, but bear with me! I hope to have it smoothed out and running well by this weekend.

However, if you're curious and want to try it out, please go here:

http://strategy.jediknight.net/jka/server_status.shtml

The trackers should be updated, and I will restart it once a day to make sure things are working properly. Please shoot me an email or PM if things are not looking right.

The rotation should be two rounds of siege (six matches), followed by a run through of the JA basic maps, then the JA Bonus map pack, then I CTF (then the CTF bonus map). There's a "mayhem" map thrown in there every once in awhile too (a Duel map set to FFA, meaning it's basically a mosh pit!).

Dismemberment is enabled, and tons of Star Wars skins are supported... I will also try to get some Siege Destroyer/Asteroids Mod setup for later this summer (if they'll allow it).

Here's the IP:
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Old 06-17-2009, 07:04 PM   #2
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How can I tell whether players are bots or humans?
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Old 06-17-2009, 10:38 PM   #3
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Try challenging them to a duel...


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Old 06-18-2009, 06:13 AM   #4
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sweet, im jumping in!



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Old 06-18-2009, 05:35 PM   #5
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Old 06-18-2009, 06:40 PM   #6
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Excellent.

Also, the following skinpack is supported, as are [url=http://strategy.jediknight.net/jka/mods/weaponenhancements.zip[/url] (note, not created by me, but slightly tweaked to work on the server).

Of course if you have any of the skins in the above packs that you've gotten separately, you may wish to back them up before installing, since these will overwrite them. They have had the single player stuff striped out, and the sounds toyed with to work in JA where possible (to avoid errors).

Adding the following as well:

Amidala's Jedi human female expansion.

a Jedi human male expansion.


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Old 06-18-2009, 07:11 PM   #7
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sweet, im jumping in!
I guess nobody was up in New Zealand time eh? Sorry about that. It was around 4am my time...!

You can keep checking the tracker to see if anyone is in there, btw.


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Old 06-18-2009, 10:44 PM   #8
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I guess nobody was up in New Zealand time eh? Sorry about that. It was around 4am my time...!

You can keep checking the tracker to see if anyone is in there, btw.
lol, was the chat logged?



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Old 06-19-2009, 12:35 AM   #9
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JA automatically logs the chat, I just used a program called "QuakeChat" to isolate the conversations. It helps me gauge how the server is going and how to improve it in the future.

So if you're playing and something is bugging you, feel free to "shout it to the heavens" and I'll pick up on it later. Be constructive though...


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Old 06-19-2009, 05:00 AM   #10
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well, those bots were stupid. they were laming me while i was chatting.
but one of them yelled "LAG!", which seemed a rather humanly thing to do...



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Old 06-19-2009, 05:56 AM   #11
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:07 AM   #12
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well, those bots were stupid. they were laming me while i was chatting.
but one of them yelled "LAG!", which seemed a rather humanly thing to do...
I have a sneaking suspicion that RazorAce programmed them to zero in on chatting players... that little word balloon may send them into a rage.

Or so it seems.

So you've gotta be quick... or be dead.


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Old 06-21-2009, 08:36 PM   #13
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:25 AM   #14
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Okay I realized I had forgotten to disable the "automapcycle" cvar. It should cycle the maps properly now (no more "Siege Destroyer" or other custom maps beyond the Bonus pack until we get those circulated properly).

Only thing I'm not sure about now is whether it will really properly restart each morning, so I may need to do that manually until then. So apologies for any downtime in the AM...


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Old 06-22-2009, 07:27 PM   #15
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Hey, do you know what are some common times when the server is more populated?
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Old 06-23-2009, 06:24 PM   #16
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Sorry, but the answer is "not really", since I work 9-5 CST during the week.

You just have to keep checking I guess, since I don't know how to get precise statistics on when people come. Back in the day weekends were big (especially during the summer), but this past weekend it seemed unpredictable.

Why don't you just get some people together and go there? I think mainly it's harder to get people because the "honorz" community has dominated JA for so long. Seriously, if you check the servers list, sure you've got MovieBattles II but the rest is JA+ with sabers only/low force or the rare siege/ctf game is usually a clans only/passworded game.

So you guys can help me (and yourselves) by doing a little word-of-mouth advertising.


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Old 06-23-2009, 07:08 PM   #17
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The server has been experiencing some downtime today... I don't know why. So I'm hoping Escaped Turkey will answer my Technical Support ticket soon...

Sorry about the inconvenience!


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Old 06-23-2009, 08:41 PM   #18
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Okay it's back, and for good I think (turns out it was a cfg problem, which I've now fixed).

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Old 06-24-2009, 08:27 PM   #19
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Found and corrected another map cycle bug. Go ahead and stress test it, it should hold up all day... (and restart at 4am CST).

There should also be an automatic warning before the server goes down (then back up in 10-12 minutes).

Map Cycle is as follows:

Begins with a "Mayhem" map (short match, Duel map in FFA mode, meaning a SABER PARTY). This utter chaos should get the juices flowing... and one of these will follow each "set."

Next the three Siege maps.
Break for Mayhem, another round of the three siege maps.
Mayhem.
Then the five FFA maps, and the four "Bonus Pack" FFA maps.
Mayhem.
Then the five CTF maps, and the one "Bonus Pack" CTF map.
TEAM FFA (one map).
Four Mayhem rounds, then it restarts.

Note: I'm only currently running the official Raven maps that came with the game and the JA Bonus Pack maps. So more people be able to join.

PS: As of right this second, the cycle is on CTF2.


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Old 06-27-2009, 05:02 PM   #20
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Has anyone had difficulty joining?


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Old 07-06-2009, 08:00 PM   #21
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Bump. Still up!


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Why don't you allow voting?

Also maybe lower the number of CTF maps in the lineup.
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we should organize an LF get together on teh meatgrinder. seriously, whenever i go on/check the status, its only those bots that are on. (and who wants to play with bots? i can do that offline)



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Old 07-08-2009, 05:21 PM   #24
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I agree with you, but playing with the bots on that server for a while makes it more likely that someone else will see that the server has a human and join.

But you're right, pick an hour and I'll try to be on at that time.
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Old 07-09-2009, 12:51 AM   #25
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Why don't you allow voting?

Also maybe lower the number of CTF maps in the lineup.
Cause I don't want people to screw up my sweet cycle?

Well I thought I enabled next map voting, and you can kick teammates that are annoying you, but otherwise I find voting just lends itself to abuse usually (or people change everything and then just leave).

If it's screwing up though I'd like to know!


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we should organize an LF get together on teh meatgrinder. seriously, whenever i go on/check the status, its only those bots that are on. (and who wants to play with bots? i can do that offline)
Yeah, but you won't fight my custom made bots offline! (even if you use OJP Basic)

However, yeah, we all prefer to play with humans. You guys will need to organize that and synchronize, because otherwise there's no telling when somebody is going to be on and you not.


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I thought we had already established that i hate your bots...



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I thought I tried voting for the next map but maybe I might have done it wrong.

And while you may take pride in your map cycle that you created, I have a differing opinion. I hardly ever see the server with FFA maps anymore, and that's the main reason I'd want to join the server. The siege levels are nice though, since I never get to play siege. Maybe you could intersplice more FFA maps inbetween the other game modes.
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Hey Kurgan, if you guys need a Ventrilo server let me know.

I can get you set you up on mine.
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Hey Kurgan, if you guys need a Ventrilo server let me know.

I can get you set you up on mine.
Actually, can I say "yes please"?

I was just hanging out with a friend of mine today but he hadn't heard anything from our other vent server prospect yet. So if you can set one up for us "now" that'd be awesome!

I'll be at my computer Sunday night for sure, and I'd love to try it out! I've had these headphones with mic just collecting dust. I should probably get one of those throat spray things that singers use to make sure my voice is in tip top shape for the trash talking...


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I thought I tried voting for the next map but maybe I might have done it wrong.

And while you may take pride in your map cycle that you created, I have a differing opinion. I hardly ever see the server with FFA maps anymore, and that's the main reason I'd want to join the server. The siege levels are nice though, since I never get to play siege. Maybe you could intersplice more FFA maps inbetween the other game modes.
Well here's the thing, you must "hardly ever" see Siege, if you are joining at a certain time of day.

Here is how the cycle works:

FFA (6 minutes on a Duel map, that's why)
Siege Hoth
Siege Desert
Siege Korriban
Siege Hoth
Siege Desert
Siege Korriban

So that right there may take quite awhile, especially if the teams don't progress quickly (remember, it does map switching for offense/defense).

After that it goes to FFA... first a six minute "duel map" (which I call Mayhem because it's a big mosh pit), then the five standard FFA maps. THEN it does the four FFA BONUS maps (from the raven Bonus pack), then it does another Mayhem round (again, just six minutes) and then it goes into CTF... does all of the standard CTF maps and the Bonus CTF map, then iirc, it does a Team FFA map and then a series of short Mayhems (which again are essentially FFA, just sabers only in a confined space, so it goes quickly), then it starts over.

I assure you then, that after each "round" of a gametype, there is a quick deathmatch in between. Mayhem, Siege, Siege, Mayhem, FFA, Mayhem, CTF, Mayhem, Mayhem, Mayhem, etc. repeat...

So in the morning when the server restarts (around 4-4:30am CST iirc), until Siege completes, it is going to be FFA for at least half the time.

I thought you could vote for gametype change, but I could be wrong (might have disabled it because it might screw up the game, can't remember).

When I get home I'll test the voting options again. I'd like to give minimal options so people can't screw it up accidentally, but still change if it's getting too boring or something.


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i just went and found out what a "vent server" is.
and i think its a great idea!

(now if only i can get on when there are humans around. i dont want to have to chat with your bots.

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Actually, can I say "yes please"?

I was just hanging out with a friend of mine today but he hadn't heard anything from our other vent server prospect yet. So if you can set one up for us "now" that'd be awesome!

I'll be at my computer Sunday night for sure, and I'd love to try it out! I've had these headphones with mic just collecting dust. I should probably get one of those throat spray things that singers use to make sure my voice is in tip top shape for the trash talking...
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i just went and found out what a "vent server" is.
and i think its a great idea!

(now if only i can get on when there are humans around. i dont want to have to chat with your bots.

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The more the merrier.
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Now we just need to record some simulated audio for the bots... like sound board prank calls.

(just kidding)


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Now we just need to record some simulated audio for the bots... like sound board prank calls.

(just kidding)


Just tell me when/if you decide
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Old 07-15-2009, 08:29 PM   #36
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I decided, I decide! Trouble is, my internet hasn't been working the last couple of days, but Nedak, I defiantly want a free vent server to use... pretty please?

I can check my email again tomorrow afternoon, send one to kurgan @ qwest . net with all needed info. If I have to have a name or something for it, call it Meatgrinder (which is the name of the JA game server as well).


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Old 07-19-2009, 05:38 PM   #37
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Internet is back, Vent server is set up:


A "Vent" server for the game is now up! So now you can voice chat with
other players (assuming they're logged in as well).

Get Ventrilo HERE.

Vent Server: vent8.gameservers.com
Port #: 4544

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Old 07-19-2009, 07:12 PM   #38
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Hope you enjoy!

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And may I say you have a fine radio voice?

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Old 07-22-2009, 02:13 PM   #40
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Hey guys, the way to get people to join is this... go INTO the server, and wait awhile. You may have to be patient, as this game isn't as popular as games released last year. But if people see that someone is in the server, they will join and it tends to accumulate from there.

What seems to empty out the server is the Bonus maps, because people still don't have those. It's sad really, because these are official, and let's face it, people are willing to download over a GIGABYTE of files to play MB2, but not a paltry 15-20 megs for some professional maps made by the game's dev team? Strange.

Also, for you guys who are still having trouble telling the bots from the human players, do this:

In the console type:

/serverstatus

Ping of 0 = bot. Ping of anything above zero = human player.

I am going to turn on voting, so if you are on a map and getting bored waiting and nobody is joining, you can switch to the next map. If it is screwing up, I'll disable it.


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