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Old 09-29-2010, 08:14 AM   #1
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Lucas: I'm doing Star Wars in 3d OMGROFL!

BBC - Lucas to release Star Wars in 3d

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A statement on the Star Wars website said: "The cutting edge conversion will take that immersion to the next thrilling level."

Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace is expected to be released in 2012, with the other films to follow.
I don't think there's an adequate image for the massive facepalm that this is. I still maintain that 3d is a gimmick, and it will only ruin our beloved films even more than they already have been.






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Old 09-29-2010, 08:29 AM   #2
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... Well at least, the starting scene on ROTS with obi and anaki on the ships would be pretty cool in 3D... But letting that appart... no!... just no.


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Old 09-29-2010, 08:59 AM   #3
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Now, in general I'm not bothered by the changes made to the films, and considering that there'd be no real obligation to watch them in 3d, I don't care, and I'm probably not going to bother watching them in 3d. I'll probably still see them in theatres again, though.

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I'm just looking forward to the Blu Ray versions, Like yourself Astor, I have no interest in the 3D gimmick.



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Old 09-29-2010, 09:34 AM   #5
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I agree it's a gimmick, but for someone who hasn't seen the OT in theatres, like me, this is an great opportunity to do so now.


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Old 09-29-2010, 09:54 AM   #6
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I think there is an old rant thread about this already somewhere...

I don't know about you guys, but I would love a 3D run down the Death Star trench.

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And on the sixth day, Lucas said Let there be more money, and there was more money, and it was good.


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Old 09-29-2010, 11:16 AM   #8
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I'm just looking forward to the Blu Ray versions, Like yourself Astor, I have no interest in the 3D gimmick.
Wait, you mean you don't consider Blu-Ray to be a gimmick? How... fascinating.

But really, wasn't one round in theatres too much for the prequel trilogy? I mean, I know LucasFilm exists solely to make money, but isn't there such a thing as corporate ethics - ie. not subjecting the human race to more Phantom Menace or *shudder* Attack of the Clones? I thank the Lord I don't have cable, so at least I'll be able to avoid the inevitable and near-continuous "RETURNING TO A THEATRE NEAR YOU" ads.
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Old 09-29-2010, 11:41 AM   #9
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Wait, you mean you don't consider Blu-Ray to be a gimmick? How... fascinating.
yeah, Blu-Ray is as much a gimmick as the DVD was.
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But really, wasn't one round in theatres too much for the prequel trilogy? I mean, I know LucasFilm exists solely to make money, but isn't there such a thing as corporate ethics - ie. not subjecting the human race to more Phantom Menace or *shudder* Attack of the Clones? I thank the Lord I don't have cable, so at least I'll be able to avoid the inevitable and near-continuous "RETURNING TO A THEATRE NEAR YOU" ads.
When did the governments of the world pass laws that made movie attendance mandatory or made remote controls inoperable during commercials?

You do know if these movies are of no interests to you that you do not have to attend them? I’m pretty sure the mandatory attendance laws have not passed.

I have no problem with LucasFilm Ltd wanting to make money, they are a business after all and isn’t that the goal of any for profit business, to make money?



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Old 09-29-2010, 11:52 AM   #10
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I have no problem with LucasFilm Ltd wanting to make money, they are a business after all and isn’t that the goal of any for profit business, to make money?
How dare you suggest this, mimi?

I, as a fan, have pledged my life and soul to my supreme lord/shogun/master Lucas and am deeply offended by the disregard they show to my endless devotion. To think that an honourable visionary such as Lucas stooped down to mere money-making? Incredulous!


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Old 09-29-2010, 12:31 PM   #11
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Well, I guess on the bright side of things a few scenes would look really cool in 3D. Honestly I'm not sure I'd pay money to see this...

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Well, I guess on the bright side of things a few scenes would look really cool in 3D.


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Ahh, so that's how a live action series would cost $50 million an episode.
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I agree it's a gimmick, but for someone who hasn't seen the OT in theatres, like me, this is an great opportunity to do so now.
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Old 09-29-2010, 01:38 PM   #14
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I really don't see the problem with this. Personally I don't like any movie I've seen in 3D, but I hope in 2012 things will be better. Besides, it's Star Wars...



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Old 09-29-2010, 02:41 PM   #15
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I loathe 3D, I think it is just a gimmick and a excuse to get more money out of people. All I want is the Original Trilogy on Blu-Ray...
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Old 09-29-2010, 04:41 PM   #16
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yeah, Blu-Ray is as much a gimmick as the DVD was.
Er..... yeah, this.

Zero surprise factor here... as sabre noted, GL likes his monies.

There should be a 3D Star Wars based game show... hosted by the modern heir to Monte Hall. "Let's Make Old Fans Cry!"


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Old 09-29-2010, 04:54 PM   #17
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Wait, you mean you don't consider Blu-Ray to be a gimmick? How... fascinating.
Your very Easily fascinated then... well you do like Dr Who though


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Old 09-29-2010, 05:35 PM   #18
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My opinion on 3D is that it's not a gimmick, but rather a technique that has the potential to create immersive, and visually stunning scenes that simply draws the audience into the film if the 3D technique in question is treated with care, and sophisticated means of film-making. Otherwise, a 2D film, that's converted over to 3D, will never reach that level of excitement. In fact, that sort of treatment of 3D will in-fact be gimmicky indeed, and rather a typical, Hollywood sell out (just like Avatar).

I personally think Star Wars is better off without 3D. The original film was, and still is unique in terms of film-making, and I personally believe that the 3D conversation is simply a waste of time, and money. Money, that could be used to create a Battlefront III, KotOR III, or a JediKnight IV.


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Old 09-29-2010, 06:56 PM   #19
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How is Blu-Ray a gimmick? SW in 1080p on Blu-Ray = best thing ever!

SW in 3D = gayest thing ever!



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Old 09-29-2010, 07:06 PM   #20
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Not only is it a huge gimmick, but unless something is filmed in 3d, it tends to look less good. I'm not gonna see it, simply because I don't want to see a giant glowing sword of (+9) death flying around in either a slow paced fight or in an over-choreographed fight scene with 20+ lightsabers and 300 droids for each lightsaber on the screen.
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ITT: Read the word "gimmick" 50 million times.

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Can't do it...won't do it...what I think is hilarious is 3D has been around for over 20 years...and suddenly it's the greatest thing since sliced bread...I'm not shellin out $12 for a movie ticket to see something I can pop into my DVD player and watch in the comfort of my own home minus the 20 year old technology.


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If he really did destroy the OT theatrical negatives I wouldn't feel the least bit bad if somebody shot him in the face.
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Can't do it...won't do it...what I think is hilarious is 3D has been around for over 20 years...and suddenly it's the greatest thing since sliced bread...
3D movies have been around since the 1922. However, they got big in the 1950's and then again in the 1980's.
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I'm not shellin out $12 for a movie ticket to see something I can pop into my DVD player and watch in the comfort of my own home minus the 20 year old technology.
Have you seen a 3D movie lately? My guess is you haven't since all you have to do is compare Jaws 3D to Avatar to know it isn't the same technology. There is a world of difference and I am not talking quality of story, but only the quality of the picture.

You can say you don’t want to pay to see Star Wars in 3D, but saying that is 20 year old technology is unfair. I’ve taken family members to a number of 3D movies in recent years and I was going to see the 3D movies in the 1980’s for my own entertainment and I for one can see the difference.

While 3D does not make a crappy movie good, it can enhance a well written movie making it slightly better. I just hope they continue the current trend and release most movies in both formats.


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If he really did destroy the OT theatrical negatives I wouldn't feel the least bit bad if somebody shot him in the face.
I concur, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was just LucasSpeak™ for "I don't want the AFI to restore my movie."

GL is full of it, you know.

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I don't know about you guys, but I would love a 3D run down the Death Star trench.
OK, I admit that I'd probably pay to see that. Damn you, George!


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Old 09-29-2010, 09:29 PM   #26
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I don't think 3D in its current form is very good. There's a reason why this technology was only used for specialised films such as boring documentaries you'd only see at IMAX for a long time before it became mainstream... and why they always make you take a break half way through for like 10-15 minutes.

Depending on the person, the 3D effect is a pretty big strain on your eyes and the FACT is that quite a lot of people will start to get eye strain by the end of the movie, and there are warnings that come with 3D TVs that tell you this... so don't go thinking you can pull off a 3D Star Wars marathon


@ The Doctor: I wouldn't say Blu-ray is a "gimmick" (which is a word that's incorrectly used these days and people think it means "useless feature" when it doesn't)... if we were to say Blu-ray was a "gimmick" then, hell, DVD was just as much of a "gimmick"...

What Blu-ray (and other HD media formats) has done is allowed movies to be viewed in (relatively) as close to as it would come watching the actual master copy of a movie itself. It also does away with those ye olden video and colour standards NTSC, PAL, SECAM and all that crap. We have new universal formats that work in every country around the world, which means as someone in what was a PAL region, I don't have to bitch about 24fps movies being shown in 25fps... sure, an extra frame per second faster doesn't sound like a big deal, but when you actually get down to comparing you'll definitely notice the difference.

So yes, Blu-ray and other HD media has done A LOT to make movies better for everyone whether they realise it or not. Of course it also depends if you have the latest TVs or not... no point investing in Blu-ray if you've still got an old standard definition CRT that you can't let go of.





Personally, I don't care if they do it in 3D or not... just as long as I am able to choose whether I want to watch it that way or not. I don't want **** forced onto me, I want to be able to watch **** the way I want.

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Old 09-29-2010, 09:33 PM   #27
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Agreed that 1080p is hardly a gimmick; it's progress.


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I'm not gonna see it, simply because I don't want to see a giant glowing sword of (+9) death flying around in either a slow paced fight or in an over-choreographed fight scene with 20+ lightsabers and 300 droids for each lightsaber on the screen.
Dude, there's no reason to watch the movies on it's original form either then.


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I think they should just redo all of the miniature-model scenes in the OT with CGI with retaining all of the original camera angles. Of course they won't, and will turn the Battle of Yavin into a claustrophobic mess like the entrance of Mos Eisley in the special edition, but am I really the only one who felt that the scant number of deployed TIE Fighters didn't compliment the supposedly immense magnitude of the Death Star?
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I think they should just redo all of the miniature-model scenes in the OT with CGI with retaining all of the original camera angles. Of course they won't, and will turn the Battle of Yavin into a claustrophobic mess like the entrance of Mos Eisley in the special edition, but am I really the only one who felt that the scant number of deployed TIE Fighters didn't compliment the supposedly immense magnitude of the Death Star?
Many things didn't, like why the hell was the Station just drifting around wihout a single frigate to back it up and stuff.

I know someone's going to use the "cocky, overconfident empire" card, but, hell. You might as well say that the small pack of TIEs that intercepted Red Squadron was only small because flight control thought that it would just a waste of Peragian fuel and that a single wing could do the job right.


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I think they should just redo all of the miniature-model scenes in the OT with CGI with retaining all of the original camera angles. Of course they won't, and will turn the Battle of Yavin into a claustrophobic mess like the entrance of Mos Eisley in the special edition, but am I really the only one who felt that the scant number of deployed TIE Fighters didn't compliment the supposedly immense magnitude of the Death Star?
You should watch Star Wars Revisited.


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I think they should just redo all of the miniature-model scenes in the OT with CGI with retaining all of the original camera angles. Of course they won't, and will turn the Battle of Yavin into a claustrophobic mess like the entrance of Mos Eisley in the special edition, but am I really the only one who felt that the scant number of deployed TIE Fighters didn't compliment the supposedly immense magnitude of the Death Star?
That's mostly what the special editions did, and they look like ****. The miniatures look great to this day.
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I don't think 3D in its current form is very good. There's a reason why this technology was only used for specialised films such as boring documentaries you'd only see at IMAX for a long time before it became mainstream... and why they always make you take a break half way through for like 10-15 minutes.

Depending on the person, the 3D effect is a pretty big strain on your eyes and the FACT is that quite a lot of people will start to get eye strain by the end of the movie, and there are warnings that come with 3D TVs that tell you this... so don't go thinking you can pull off a 3D Star Wars marathon
I must admit that part of my reason for seeing 3D as a gimmick is that I wear glasses, which makes watching a 3D movie rather uncomfortable - I can't sit through an entire film wearing two sets of glasses, and I'll wager that is the same for many others.

As for replacing things from the OT with CGI, I'm already betting they completely replace Yoda with the CGI version.






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Agreed that 1080p is hardly a gimmick; it's progress.
But the question is is it really necessary? Im not paying that much more for the discs just to get a sharper image, and im sure im not the only one.


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^Have you seen it on a decent HDTV? The difference between Blu-Ray and DVD is night and day, and it stays sharp no matter how big the screen is.

The discs and the players are getting cheaper by the day here in the States. More importantly, the burners and blank media are, too.


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^Have you seen it on a decent HDTV? The difference between Blu-Ray and DVD is night and day, and it stays sharp no matter how big the screen is.

The discs and the players are getting cheaper by the day here in the States. More importantly, the burners and blank media are, too.
No, but im not much of a hifi freak anyway. If it sometime in the future becomes as cheap as DVD I´ll switch to it, but until that im quite happy with DVD´s. And Im not a big fan of massive screens either, when its too big you need to watch it from so far away it becomes pointless.


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No, but im not much of a hifi freak anyway. If it sometime in the future becomes as cheap as DVD I´ll switch to it, but until that im quite happy with DVD´s. And Im not a big fan of massive screens either, when its too big you need to watch it from so far away it becomes pointless.
I've already explained it pretty well in my earlier post but I guess I'll explain it again...

Yeah, you're right... if you don't have the latest TV and all that there's not really much point in investing in HD media... but like Q said, it's still a progression... a good progression. Picture quality is awesome for many reasons, more pixels is always better, it's also allowing movie makers to produce movies and such in formats they know will be watched by the end user. So we get EXACTLY what they want us to see, which is something that used to be impossible... also, as I said in my previous post, Blu-ray and HD media has done away with older obsolete formats and everything is now becoming universal. There are still many things to improve on over current HD media... people just don't realise it yet.

Also, buying a really big screen doesn't mean you really have to sit that far back... it just means you have to lower the TV so you're at a better angle and don't end up looking up at the picture. For example, I have a 40" HDTV and I sit just a little over a metre away. If I were to have a bigger TV, like a 52" like I really wanted... I'd still sit the same distance away... I'd just have the TV lower to the ground XD

Oh and another thing about Blu-ray is the sound... in fact, I think that's the best part about Blu-ray because that's the first thing I noticed when I switched from DVD to Blu-ray... the sound quality is awesome, I love it.

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3D movies have been around since the 1922. However, they got big in the 1950's and then again in the 1980's. Have you seen a 3D movie lately? My guess is you haven't since all you have to do is compare Jaws 3D to Avatar to know it isn't the same technology. There is a world of difference and I am not talking quality of story, but only the quality of the picture.

You can say you don’t want to pay to see Star Wars in 3D, but saying that is 20 year old technology is unfair. I’ve taken family members to a number of 3D movies in recent years and I was going to see the 3D movies in the 1980’s for my own entertainment and I for one can see the difference.

While 3D does not make a crappy movie good, it can enhance a well written movie making it slightly better. I just hope they continue the current trend and release most movies in both formats.
Nope...sure haven't seen a 3D movie recently mostly because I have absolutely no desire to. I don't see the attraction to be honest, and not worth my money no which movie they attach it to. Same thing with 3D TV...that and I have no desire to sit and wear 3D glasses while watching football. The one pair of glasses I have is enough.


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But the question is is it really necessary?
No, it is not necessary, but that is hardly a fair question considering television, DVD, books, music, games (unless you are Lynk) and other entertainment are not necessary. Blu-Ray improves the movie watching experience. While Blu-Ray may not be worth the added cost to you and others, this does not mean that everyone feels the same way as you.
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I must admit that part of my reason for seeing 3D as a gimmick is that I wear glasses, which makes watching a 3D movie rather uncomfortable - I can't sit through an entire film wearing two sets of glasses, and I'll wager that is the same for many others.
There is this other gimmick called contact lenses.
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Nope...sure haven't seen a 3D movie recently mostly because I have absolutely no desire to. I don't see the attraction to be honest, and not worth my money no which movie they attach it to. Same thing with 3D TV...that and I have no desire to sit and wear 3D glasses while watching football. The one pair of glasses I have is enough.
So you are being overly critical when you have not even seen the new technology.


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