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Old 09-30-2010, 07:25 PM   #1
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Life supporting planet

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I wouldn't want to live on a freezing cold planet, but this is something, isn't it?


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Old 09-30-2010, 07:33 PM   #2
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What I'd find interesting is to see how a civilisation might evolve on this planet.

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I wonder how well one could grow grass on that planet.


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Old 09-30-2010, 08:52 PM   #5
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Interesting indeed, though I am disappointed that Earthlings won't be able to live on any other planets in the solar system anytime soon. Looks like we'll have to wait until 2020, or 2100 for that to ever happen.


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Old 09-30-2010, 09:13 PM   #6
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Well, even if they manage to go to that planet, I don't think that 90 years will be enough, I don't think they're going to send anyone until a long moment, to we add 20 years of travel, and they would probably die... since I don't think there would be a way for them to return, and I don't think they will have enough food for a life time. Imagine that they were able to communicate us that we can live on this planet, it would happen like 20 years after, so the time to make a big expedition, to conquer this planet, would take quite a long once more, so personally I don't think it could happen before... a lot more xD Maybe something like 2150 would be more reasonable.


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Old 09-30-2010, 09:58 PM   #8
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I wonder how well one could grow grass on that planet.
Well, the sunny side would, but you'd need a GroBot to induce flowering...

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This is CNN's science reporting? It sounds like a 4th grader's book report.

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Old 10-01-2010, 05:39 AM   #10
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This is CNN's science reporting? It sounds like a 4th grader's book report.
This.



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Old 10-01-2010, 07:01 AM   #11
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What I'd find interesting is to see how a civilisation might evolve on this planet.
Why not, if it has a zone of habitable environment?


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Old 10-01-2010, 06:49 PM   #12
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I suspect that colonization of far-off planets will only occur if robotics technology has progressed to the point that we can automate initial set-up. (This is assuming the necessary advancements in travel tech are made, since the whole point is moot if we can't reach these places.)

If we had the right propulsion tech (be it achieving very high speeds, or some sort of warp thing that may or may not even be possible), good enough robotics, and preferably some sort of cryosleep, colonization would be easily achievable. In other words, I doubt it's going to happen any time soon (Though in a mere 58 years, we went from the Wright Flyer to putting a man in space, so who knows).

What I would find intriguing is the possibility that a manned colonization mission could be sent out, but overtaken on the way by a much later effort with improved propulsion. For the original batch of colonists, on arrival to their new home, it would seem as if time travel had occurred. Extrasolar colonies would make communication very interesting.



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If we had the right propulsion tech (be it achieving very high speeds, or some sort of warp thing that may or may not even be possible), good enough robotics, and preferably some sort of cryosleep, colonization would be easily achievable. In other words, I doubt it's going to happen any time soon (Though in a mere 58 years, we went from the Wright Flyer to putting a man in space, so who knows).
The next closest star (meaning the closest one that isn't also the one we currently orbit) is so far away that newborn would not be able to reach it in their lifetime, based on current technology or what we even consider to be feasible.

Yes, amazing advances do occur, but the Wright Brothers were up against technology, not physics. We know that all sorts of things can fly; the trick was trying to figure out how to make US fly. What we're talking about here is something completely different.
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Old 10-01-2010, 11:45 PM   #14
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Space travel to far off planets, even the ones in our own solar system, is currently not feasible. This Solar system is huge, but in reality it is just a speck of nothingness compared to the scope of the universe. until humans are able to put themselves in cryostasis in order to stave off the aging effects that would kill them en-route (presently, any expedition even to fly by Jupiter by a manned craft would result in imminent death) In order to explore our own solar system properly, much less the galaxy proper, would require a form of cryostasis and a method to increase fuel capacity in spaceships while reducing fuel consumption




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Old 10-02-2010, 12:35 AM   #15
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Old 10-02-2010, 01:23 AM   #16
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Space travel to far off planets, even the ones in our own solar system, is currently not feasible.
Travel to other planets in our system is feasible with current tech. Travel to other stars is also possible; it would just require a long time and a huge ship containing a biosphere.


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Old 10-02-2010, 02:28 AM   #17
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Travel to other planets in our system is feasible with current tech. Travel to other stars is also possible; it would just require a long time and a huge ship containing a biosphere.
well you have to also factor in the fuel requirement (it takes gigantic tanks just to get to the ISS and back) and the age effect. Jupiter is actual light years away. you'd age incredibly fast if you werent in cryostasis. no astronauts would make it back alive




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Old 10-02-2010, 03:52 AM   #18
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Jupiter is actual light years away.
Um, no, no it isn't; not by a long shot. Sorry.


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One light year = 10 trillion kilometres
Minimum Earth-Jupiter distance = 893 million - 964 million kilometres

It's a walk down the block, really.


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Travel to other planets in our system is feasible with current tech. Travel to other stars is also possible; it would just require a long time and a huge ship containing a biosphere.
We'd also need transforming jets that fly in space to protect us against any giant sized humanoid races that lack culture and only know warfare... you know, just in case.

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If someone takes a look at the serious discussion (not the other type) about the challenges involved just getting to freakin' MARS, I think it's pretty obvious that ANY discussion about visiting other solar systems is getting way, WAY ahead of ourselves.
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I'm still waiting for a moon base to be built

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We'd also need transforming jets that fly in space to protect us against any giant sized humanoid races that lack culture and only know warfare... you know, just in case.
You should also make sure to take a few colonists that can sing pretty well... just in case.


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Jupiter is still extremely far away. I mean it takes gigantic tanks of fuel just to get to the International Space Station and back. Heck, it takes quite a few gallons just to launch the shuttles. Seriously, though, space travel is still in its early stages. As Achilles stated, the difficulty in getting to mars makes traveling to other galaxies impossible at least for now. it won't be in any of our lifetimes; (that is, unless someone pulls a sheldon cooper and transfers his conciousness into a robotic body, but I digress) until the entire earth can come together and collectively work on a space project (more extensive then the ISS, a globe-spanning combined effort) humans will likely be stranded on this planet called "Earth."




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Well, an other thing is that by the time we will be able to do it, there will be no fuel left, so we first need a new source of energy able to launch a shuttle.


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Jupiter is still extremely far away. I mean it takes gigantic tanks of fuel just to get to the International Space Station and back. Heck, it takes quite a few gallons just to launch the shuttles. Seriously, though, space travel is still in its early stages. As Achilles stated, the difficulty in getting to mars makes traveling to other galaxies impossible at least for now. it won't be in any of our lifetimes; (that is, unless someone pulls a sheldon cooper and transfers his conciousness into a robotic body, but I digress) until the entire earth can come together and collectively work on a space project (more extensive then the ISS, a globe-spanning combined effort) humans will likely be stranded on this planet called "Earth."
You do realise that when you reach space you dont need to spend fuel to move, without friction there is no passive negative acceleration which means any object with speed will maintain that speed and keep going on.


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So long as it manages to avoid anything with mass (read: gravity) which might slow it down.
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Not only would you need fuel when gravity slows the craft down, but may want to a little fuel for course correction. 120 trillion miles seems a bit far to be able to fly in a straight line without something getting in the way. May also want a little fuel for when you get there and want to slow down.


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Also might need some fuel or technology to accelerate to near light-speed, since even at full light speed it would take us 4.2 years to reach the nearest star to us, never mind a star relevant to actually visit.



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Shouldn't we either fix/finally destroy this planet before looking at others?







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Shouldn't we either fix/finally destroy this planet before looking at others?

This has been my sentiment ever since talk of colonising Mars started to get out of hand. Man hasn't even gotten a proper hold on his homeworld yet; he's nowhere near ready to start latching onto others as well, never mind the fact that the idea isn't yet technologically feasible.
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Shouldn't we either fix/finally destroy this planet before looking at others?

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Not before Belgium has a new government
That might take some lightyears aswell...


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Not before Belgium has a new government
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I guess the point is that It's not for us that this discovery is important, rather for the next generations to come which may or may not be able to explore it.

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