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Old 02-28-2012, 04:53 AM   #1001
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Maybe they want to savor their efforts. Afterall, they only get out every 50K years or so...what's the hurry.


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Old 02-28-2012, 05:01 AM   #1002
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@ Sabre: You got something against charged particle beam cannons?

@ DP: They're probably just squashing down the resistance enough to enslave the ones who aren't strong enough to fight back.

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Old 02-28-2012, 06:57 AM   #1003
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Destroying military equipment and facilities makes sense, but random destruction of population centres is pointless, beyond providing some gratuitous Hollywood-style FX sequences. And in a completely inefficient manner to boot, as Sabretooth points out. The way to go would be some sort of tailored disease/virus. Wouldn't even need to be lethal, just make people passive and easy to round up for processing. Should be straight forward given that Reapers can fabricate completely new organisms like the Keepers and Collectors and turn a people milkshake into a giant sentient robot.
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Old 02-28-2012, 07:16 AM   #1004
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Maybe they just like blowing **** up? Nobody said they particularly value efficiency. In fact, given that they are stated to be beyond our comprehension it's a pointless exercise trying to guess their motivations/methodology. Could be like a particularly malevolent god figure that enjoys smiting the weak.
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Old 02-28-2012, 02:01 PM   #1005
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What's the point of terror, you ask? I'm sure in their malevolence, all of this is just to punish Shepard's constant resistance toward them... but the fact that you mention "Hollywood" pretty much puts all of our arguments and reasoning to sleep. After all, you can try and put sensible logic to every Hollywood action movie and find that not one of them makes sense... cause if they did, they'd all be BORING.

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Old 02-29-2012, 03:23 AM   #1006
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Seeing as Youtube/Google is apparently a lapdog of the MPAA and its ilk, here's a crappy version of the same clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeSUuj98Rx0

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Old 02-29-2012, 03:31 AM   #1007
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lol, copyright violation is bad... mmmkay

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Old 02-29-2012, 04:11 AM   #1008
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Pfff.... a 30 second clip is fair use.
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Old 02-29-2012, 05:26 AM   #1009
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So... what you're saying is that Mel Gibson should've written the Mass Effect trilogy?

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Old 02-29-2012, 05:56 AM   #1010
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My point was the Bay-esque approach of mindless explosions and other FX as an end in themselves typifies everything that is wrong with Hollywood, and by extension the games industry seeing as they just want to make interactive movies (the AAA portion of the industry at least). There is no reason an action game (or movie) can't have all the flashy explosions and other stuff and yet also have a logical, internally consistent plot at the same time.
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Old 02-29-2012, 03:23 PM   #1011
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If you're in the UK and were planning to pick up a copy from your local GAME, don't bother.

GAME will not stock Mass Effect 3 in the UK.

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Mass Effect 3 will not be stocked at Game stores across the UK, the high street chain has announced.

The Electronic Arts (EA) title is released at the end of next week.

Game has apologised to customers on its Facebook page but does not give a reason for not being able to supply Mass Effect 3.

"We're contacting you with news that, unfortunately we are not in a position to supply you with your copy of Mass Effect 3," said a statement.

"As dedicated gamers, we know how disappointing this will be for you, and we apologise sincerely for the inconvenience that this will cause."

Game customers who have pre-ordered the title will be given 5 in loyalty card reward points.

The high street chain has refused to comment on reports that other EA games could be affected from next month.






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Old 02-29-2012, 04:43 PM   #1012
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My point was the Bay-esque approach of mindless explosions and other FX as an end in themselves typifies everything that is wrong with Hollywood, and by extension the games industry seeing as they just want to make interactive movies (the AAA portion of the industry at least). There is no reason an action game (or movie) can't have all the flashy explosions and other stuff and yet also have a logical, internally consistent plot at the same time.
@ DP: So you're saying, because the Reapers are using charged particle beam cannon's to destroy cities and such on Earth at the beginning of the game, the plot of Mass Effect 3 must amount to a Michael Bay movie?

It's the opening set piece, not the entire game, what do you want? Jeebus. I'd like to at least play the game in full before I make any judgements about its plot and how everything fits together in the end. Hell, I've even seen all of the leaked content and am still holding off on my judgement. Let the final game have a chance of proving itself.


@ Astor: I don't understand that at all. Retailers down here in Australia got sick of waiting for copies of TOR so they imported in copies and sold them down here, breaking the release date by a month or so. EA can't do jack about it cause it's legal down here... is it different for you folks?

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Old 02-29-2012, 04:56 PM   #1013
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Incredibly p'd off. I hope to hell EA are sending GAME's stock to other places...I need the 360 CE. A five pound voucher is NOT what I wanted. In the space of 10 mins, the 360 version sold out on Blockbuster's website before, so all the websites listed by EA as UK sellers are now totally sold out of 360 CEs


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Old 02-29-2012, 05:12 PM   #1014
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At first I couldn't understand why GAME wasn't getting ME3, but isn't this the company that's going under?

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Old 02-29-2012, 05:23 PM   #1015
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At first I couldn't understand why GAME wasn't getting ME3, but isn't this the company that's going under?
Based on what article said, it looks like it's a possibility - I hadn't heard anything about the problems until I read that, but if they're unable to provide what's likely to be the biggest selling game of the year (plus a few things like the Vita), then something's clearly very wrong with their finances.






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Old 02-29-2012, 05:35 PM   #1016
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Based on what article said, it looks like it's a possibility - I hadn't heard anything about the problems until I read that, but if they're unable to provide what's likely to be the biggest selling game of the year (plus a few things like the Vita), then something's clearly very wrong with their finances.
Yeah, this is not good for the GAME.

I notice some comments at some of these articles on this ...and people are worried about future and existing game pre orders...where some are cancelling the ones at GAME to set up a pre -order for these games and future.

GAME should have made some deal for existing pre-orders and stop taking new ones for EA. This is like if COD pre orders were just dropped.

EA or stores in the UK might get those cancelled ones so you might see stores saying we have more CEs.

I doubt this would happen but it would be nice if the pre-order person could be attached to that game so they can get it sent by EA directly to them.

My heart goes out to those who lost their pre-orders, I know I would be pissed if this happen to me.

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Old 02-29-2012, 05:40 PM   #1017
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If anyone's interested, here's a video showing off the new(ish) Normandy:
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Old 02-29-2012, 06:11 PM   #1018
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"Freddie Prinze Jr...of the 90's"

Err...I think someone just got told they're no longer relevant.
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Old 02-29-2012, 06:17 PM   #1019
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"Freddie Prinze Jr...of the 90's"

Err...I think someone just got told they're no longer relevant.
I didn't know Freddie Prinze Jr was ever relevant.

Very interesting vid Alkonium, thanks for sharing. My only gripe is where is my space hamster? and my old automatic fish feeder?
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Old 02-29-2012, 06:20 PM   #1020
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Cool new threads Shepard has, huh? Also enjoy Garrus' new, improved calibrations den.
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Old 02-29-2012, 06:23 PM   #1021
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Will the space hamster's name be on the memorial?

What to soon,...... :-/

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Old 02-29-2012, 07:03 PM   #1022
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We saw Liara. We saw Garrus. We saw Ashley. We even saw James. I feel like there's someone we didn't see.

Hmmm....
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Old 02-29-2012, 07:10 PM   #1023
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SHE'S THERE DAMMIT! I KNOW SHE IS!!

<3 Tali.

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Old 02-29-2012, 07:19 PM   #1024
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Remember this is a late in the game view of the ship,..
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meaning maybe Tali is heading the Quarian fleet - replacing her father. That's my guess =)


I can't wait to play this game!
I have a few different saved me2 games as well as the genius for me2 so i can always create a new build- and want to see how the different missing me2 or me1 characters affect the story, or tweak it. =)


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Old 02-29-2012, 07:25 PM   #1025
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Remember this is a late in the game view of the ship,..
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meaning maybe Tali is heading the Quarian fleet - replacing her father.
I heard Tali gets eaten by a Reaper in Act II.
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Old 02-29-2012, 07:33 PM   #1026
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mind your spoilers and talk of leaked info, ppls...

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Old 02-29-2012, 07:37 PM   #1027
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@Lynk Former- Thanks for placing as a Spoiler band,..my bad


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I heard Tali gets eaten by a Reaper in Act II.
Maybe Tali falls in love with a younger Reaper and their child will be the character in mass effect 4

I wonder if they will show Tali's face?

If Tali's face looks like a Vorcha...will you still love her...in the Romance..


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Old 02-29-2012, 08:23 PM   #1028
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@Achilles- Thanks for placing as a Spoiler band,..my bad
I did that.



Also, I'm sure this is just some kind of conspiracy from BioWare where they've ordered everyone to not show Tali at all.

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Old 02-29-2012, 09:15 PM   #1029
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Remember this is a late in the game view of the ship,..
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meaning maybe Tali is heading the Quarian fleet - replacing her father. That's my guess =)


I can't wait to play this game!
I have a few different saved me2 games as well as the genius for me2 so i can always create a new build- and want to see how the different missing me2 or me1 characters affect the story, or tweak it. =)
I inferred that he was using an imported save, so maybe Tali died in his Mass Effect 2 playthrough.

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I heard a rumor earlier today that some people who got the space edition are claiming that multiplayer is required to beat the story 100%. Has anyone heard anything about this?
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It's not required, it just makes it easier to get the best ending.

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Okay. I'll assume that it's still possible to achieve the best ending without mulitplayer then, at least until the game is officially released and more details are known.
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The GAME thing is not EA deciding not to sell to them, it's GAME not accepting EA's credit policy. The way the bricks and mortar retail games industry works with local publishers is that unsold copies can be returned for credit (which is why you always see articles cautioning about the difference between shipped and sold sales figures). What it boils down to is that GAME is broke and wasn't happy with what EA was offering. They wanted a special deal and didn't get it, so they will no longer stock any upcoming EA releases, including ME3. As much as it pains me to say it, EA are not the bad guys here. It's just one of the inevitable outcomes of a transition to a digital distribution model. Expect more of this sort of thing in the future.
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Old 03-01-2012, 12:25 AM   #1034
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Makes sense. I mean, how does EA benefit (read: make more money) from GAME not selling Mass Effect 3?

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I doubt it will even be a blip on their radar. I don't know much about the specifics of the UK situation, being on the other side of the world and all, but an article over at RPS indicates that a number of chain stores there are poised to swoop in and take GAME's market share. Which would likely be why EA wasn't willing to cut a deal - they are the ones in the position of strength.
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Okay. I'll assume that it's still possible to achieve the best ending without mulitplayer then, at least until the game is officially released and more details are known.
Yep, they've explicitly said that you don't require the multiplayer for the best possible ending. I should point out at this point that the multiplayer is actually pretty fantastic. I was as skeptical as anyone when they first announced it, but it's really fun. And I also enjoy playing as other races from a geeky point-of-view. It's this sort of thing that is to blame for fan-fiction
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http://au.pc.ign.com/articles/121/1219765p1.html

Still pushing the "great entry point for new people" angle. As Vader might say, I find the comparison to the Star Trek reboot disturbing.
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Yep, they've explicitly said that you don't require the multiplayer for the best possible ending. I should point out at this point that the multiplayer is actually pretty fantastic. I was as skeptical as anyone when they first announced it, but it's really fun. And I also enjoy playing as other races from a geeky point-of-view. It's this sort of thing that is to blame for fan-fiction
While I'm very sure that multiplayer is fun, the issue is that I don't have an Xbox Live connection. If I ever get Live in the mid-far future, ME3 multiplayer will be the first multiplayer I play.
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The whole entry into the game series is just them making sure new players know they won't be entering a game and go ...wtf is going on.

I think the star trek reboot example is a poor one but most likely it is used to get scifi like trekis to look at the game.

Basically it's marketing lol

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I'm not sure how anyone can say that the 3rd and final part in any series - be it games, books, movies, etc. - is the ideal entry point with a straight face.

The Star Trek reboot comparison is troubling because he makes out it was beloved by one and all, newcomers and the existing fanbase. I've never been a big fan of Trek, but my understanding of the reboot is that it went down with the old time fans about as well as the Star Wars prequels did with most OT fans. Not a scenario you'd like to see emulated in the ME series (although it would be unsurprising given what happened with the DA series).
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