Hey fanboys! George Lucas says STFU. - Page 7

PastramiX · 07-25-2011, 07:56 PM

Hated the new music number at Jabba's Palace; I'm embarrassed to even watch it. I mean, the music isn't really at fault, it's just that f****** cartoon character's solo at the end. Hell, compared to this guy I got nothing against Jar-Jar.

The same goes for the ending of RotJ, and how they replaced the stupid Ewok song with an even stupider orchestral arrangement. I mean, the scene is edited specifically for the Stormtrooper-helmet marimbas, and all of the sound effects of the celebration is basically dubbed over by the piece. Just how necessary is it, really?

Still, all of these are over-shadowed by the heresy of heresies: the replacement of kind, elderly Anakin with a demented would-be rapist.

***Lynk Former*** · 07-26-2011, 04:39 AM

The Jabbs song was meh for both of them, the original one was meh cause it's obviously not what was intended and you could even see it before even seeing the Special Edition that what was on-screen was not what Lucas had in mind... but what they replaced it with was a little too over the top... ugh @ the 90's rap solo. The jazz part was alright though.

I don't mind the Ewok song being replaced at the end of RotJ since in the context of the whole 6 movies it makes more sense to do a whole orchestral thing to tie it together.

As for Vader, yeah, that's a pretty big one... much bigger than all of the Lightsaber ones put together. That said, I can understand their thinking behind it, but they really should've done a few more takes for Haden and told him to cut it out with the rape face.

adamqd · 07-26-2011, 05:01 AM

Yea but Anakin had a penchant for Rape Face throughout the saga though, makes sense for him to continue this expression into the after-life

**Astor** · 07-26-2011, 06:03 AM

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Are you guys kidding me? Mos Eisley's intro was TERRIBLE. Was was a cluster**** on-screen where they just decided to pack as much stuff onto the frame as possible for no reason. If they're going to have the intro they need to redo it to do a better job of it.

This.

I'd like to be able to watch my ANH DVD without skipping past those scenes, but I can't until they either remove it or redo it.

Alexrd · 07-26-2011, 08:07 AM

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As for Vader, yeah, that's a pretty big one... much bigger than all of the Lightsaber ones put together. That said, I can understand their thinking behind it, but they really should've done a few more takes for Haden and told him to cut it out with the rape face.

I don't like watching Hayden at the end of RotJ either. But word is, he didn't even knew he was going to be in it. I believe they recorded his face between takes or something, without him even knowing.

**mimartin** · 07-26-2011, 10:29 AM

With all the praise George is getting in this thread, I thought I wandered into a Trek Forum.

Darth Avlectus · 07-26-2011, 05:50 PM

I'll say the Hayden face replace was a bad move. I might even agree on a few other small things the remastered edition did (like the Jabba scene), but I best like the OT as it was for the most part.

While Ewoks were essetially a money making gimmick, I can't speak too badly of them as Daniel Rogers played a few of them in ROTJ. Daniel is like the uncle I never had--knew my mother in Hollywood and knew my father before he met my mother. When my parents were first together they'd go up to Eureka where the "Endor moon" scenes were being filmed to visit him.

Q · 07-26-2011, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Astor

This.

I'd like to be able to watch my ANH DVD without skipping past those scenes, but I can't until they either remove it or redo it.

Star Wars: Revisited cuts most of that crap out.

Perfectly legal to download if you own the DVD.

***Lynk Former*** · 07-27-2011, 05:49 AM

@ mim: We're not mindless fanboys who kiss GL's ass saying everything he does is perfect

You can do that if you want though, none of us will stop you.

Yeah, I made sure to get the original remastered edition re-release on DVD awhile back just so I had a version of Star Wars that didn't have all of the extra stuff in it to remember.

I really wish they had've included it in the Blu-ray mega set but obviously they haven't since we already know what all of the extras are.

EDIT: Also, jeebus, what's happening with my spelling and grammar lately... or possibly those are just typos in my last posts, who knows...

**Prime** · 07-27-2011, 08:36 AM

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With all the praise George is getting in this thread, I thought I wandered into a Trek Forum.

Don't get me wrong, I still think Lucas is great, and by and large I love what he has created.

**mimartin** · 07-27-2011, 09:55 PM

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@ mim: We're not mindless fanboys who kiss GL's ass saying everything he does is perfect

You can do that if you want though, none of us will stop you.

Yeah, I'm a mindless fanboy, but that only applies to BioWare.

I just tend to ignore stuff I don't like, ie Force Unleashed. Isn't worth my time to whine and moan about insignificant nonsense, but to each his own.

***Lynk Former*** · 07-27-2011, 11:49 PM

That's why this place exists... just as long as the whining is about Star Wars or vidya instead of unimportant things like politics, its all good.

RC-2067 "Evo" · 07-29-2011, 09:38 AM

I'm 15, and when I was little, we had the original VHSseses. The new Jabba's palace songs were good, but the animation just didn't fit. The only things that I liked that they changed are Ian McDiarmid in ESB, the song at the Ewok party, and Hayden Christiansen. Just about everything else made me gag.

EDIT: Oh, yes. And Tamuera Morrison as Boba.

Darth Avlectus · 07-29-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by PastramiX

Hated the new music number at Jabba's Palace; I'm embarrassed to even watch it. I mean, the music isn't really at fault, it's just that f****** cartoon character's solo at the end. Hell, compared to this guy I got nothing against Jar-Jar.

lolplagarism

Q · 07-29-2011, 09:55 PM

I've seen hotlink denial notices that looked, um, far worse than that.

Darth Avlectus · 07-29-2011, 10:44 PM

So have I, this one is actually funny compared to most out there. The other ones I have seen are either boring or something like "don't steal images f-tard" or "u just got pwnd for using images without permission mf'ing noob".

Alexrd · 08-24-2011, 03:14 PM

The Best on Blu-ray: Restoring the Star Wars Saga for the HD Generation

This is looking great. And I was very pessimistic about it.

**Astor** · 08-24-2011, 03:21 PM

^It's a great, and interesting read. It also great that they're showing some examples - and I'd never even noticed some of the defects mentioned in the article.

***Lynk Former*** · 08-30-2011, 04:06 AM

Here's some more: http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articl...s/preview.html

EDIT: Oh wait, nevermind... forgot someone already posted from a different source which I read anyway lol

DarthParametric · 08-31-2011, 07:44 AM

I'll just leave these here....

YouTube Video

***Lynk Former*** · 08-31-2011, 08:05 AM

If true...

YouTube Video

But I'm sure like most everything else on the interwebz, we're all being trolled.

Alexrd · 08-31-2011, 08:36 AM

I don't mind the new Ben' scream, nor the new Ewoks' eyes, Han unfrozen effect, or the new shot of Jabba's Palace gate. What I do mind is that awful 'no noo' from Vader, and the unfixed lightsabers. Why did they ignored that?

**Astor** · 08-31-2011, 08:40 AM

I don't know, if these are actual scenes, and not just someone trying to cause a stir, Vader's noooo! bothers me far less than I thought it would when I read about it.

DarthParametric · 08-31-2011, 08:41 AM

Lol the Obi-Wan thing is rape of a classic, pure and simple, but god damn if I don't piss myself laughing every time I hear it. I think I'll make it my new ringtone. Who would have thought Lucas was a comedy genius? Although I guess there was Howard the Duck.

Alexrd · 08-31-2011, 08:56 AM

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Lol the Obi-Wan thing is rape of a classic, pure and simple,

Well, these are the special editions, and this scream looks way more human than the last one.

DarthParametric · 08-31-2011, 09:03 AM

It's not meant to be human - it's meant to be a Krayt Dragon roar.

Miltiades · 08-31-2011, 09:12 AM

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Lol the Obi-Wan thing is rape of a classic, pure and simple, but god damn if I don't piss myself laughing every time I hear it. I think I'll make it my new ringtone. Who would have thought Lucas was a comedy genius? Although I guess there was Howard the Duck.

I got that same feeling. It's completely horrifying and hilarious at the same time.

Q · 08-31-2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Lynk Former

But I'm sure like most everything else on the interwebz, we're all being trolled.

Yeah, that's very likely the case, especially when one considers the uploader's comment:

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NOTE: The video is not from the blu-ray, I just synced up the leaked audio clip with existing video.

But, never fear. I have no doubt that George and his flunkies will provide us with more unnecessary stupidity and the controversy that it will generate.

Count on it.

adamqd · 08-31-2011, 11:07 AM

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and the unfixed lightsabers. Why did they ignored that?

"cough"

Edit: also the vader "NO" and Obi Wan "YO" are fake, £50 on it.

**Prime** · 08-31-2011, 12:43 PM

Jeez some of you guys are dramatic...

**Astor** · 08-31-2011, 02:38 PM

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Jeez some of you guys are dramatic...

Indeed. The enjoyment that Star Wars has given me over the years far outweigh any annoyance, anger or rage that I could ever feel about these supposed changes.

***Lynk Former*** · 08-31-2011, 03:58 PM

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Jeez some of you guys are dramatic...

If they included the original theatrical versions of both the OT and PT with the full 6 movie Blu-ray set then I wouldn't have a problem with them changing anything and everything they want. Hell, if they want they can have Darth Vader riding a unicorn during his fight with Luke in Cloud City.

The problem I have with these changes is the fact that it's essentially a revisionists history. It's like when the US single-handedly won both world wars and every other country did NOTHING.

Of course thanks to the Internet we won't ever truly lose the original theatrical versions of these movies... but in the mind of the mainstream it'll be a forgotten memory.

TKA-001 · 08-31-2011, 05:13 PM

I'd like to know how many people here would actually buy this set if it was exactly the way and version they want it.

Like, how many actually own a Blue-ray player, and whatnot.

Also, what the hell's with the backdraft on Obi-Wan's crazy old-guy scream? It's arguably the best-done and most warranted change since the first round.

Q · 08-31-2011, 10:03 PM

Oh, frak. It's true. All of it's freaking true.

It's like he's deliberately stirring up controversy to sell more Blu-Rays.

Oh, well. It's not like Lucasfilm was getting another dime of my money, anyway. Troll on, George.

DarthParametric · 08-31-2011, 10:14 PM

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It's arguably the best-done and most warranted change since the first round.

**mimartin** · 08-31-2011, 10:27 PM

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Oh, frak. It's true. All of it's freaking true.

Don't care will be watching Star Wars on blu-ray in a couple weeks without the whining.

If I decide I want to go old school, then I just have to figure out if my laserdisc player can be hooked up to this TV.

Hallucination · 09-01-2011, 12:33 AM

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Oh, frak. It's true. All of it's freaking true.

http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/

DarthParametric · 09-01-2011, 04:45 AM

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also the vader "NO" and Obi Wan "YO" are fake, £50 on it.

So, how will you be distributing the proceeds of this lost wager? I will accept cash or PayPal.

***Lynk Former*** · 09-01-2011, 04:59 AM

Well................ either way............... the truth is.................

I still hate myself enough to buy the Star Wars collection on Blu-ray even if all of the bad stuff really is 100% true... I'll just get the original versions of the movies through... other methods.

**Prime** · 09-01-2011, 09:33 AM

I wasn't really planning on getting it anyway. I'm happy with my DVD set. One day maybe...