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View Poll Results: Which Franchise is Better?
Star Wars (default Yoda) 48 88.89%
Harry Potter 7 12.96%
Alien 11 20.37%
Terminator 10 18.52%
Star Trek 15 27.78%
Lord of the Rings 21 38.89%
Pirates of the Caribbean 8 14.81%
Babylon 5 4 7.41%
Battlestar Galactica 6 11.11%
Barbarella 2 3.70%
Flash Gordon 3 5.56%
Buck Rogers (more to the point Erin Gray) 4 7.41%
Predator 7 12.96%
Dr. Who 9 16.67%
Mad Max 6 11.11%
Torchwood 3 5.56%
The Matrix 8 14.81%
FlashForward 1 1.85%
Stargate 11 20.37%
Jurassic Park 8 14.81%
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Old 04-01-2011, 11:21 PM   #41
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1-Star Wars






2-Terminator (yeah i know... the new movies blah blah blah, i still love it)
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Are you saying those have no quality? Or that those mentioned before are quality perfect?
No, I'm saying that the former are genuinely good works, and the latter are genuinely bad works.


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No, I'm saying that the former are genuinely good works, and the latter are genuinely bad works.
That's no fact, though.



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Yes, that would be blindingly obvious. Media is ultimately subjectively rated. They're still crap.


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I voted on the ones I am familiar of and have had at least some interaction with.


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It's the most impressive mix of quality with dross that I've ever seen.
Have to agree with you there, it's a very mixed bag.

I still like the prequels however, even though, i know i shouldn't
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Since most of the franchises I like have had very mixed quality, I've not put down one favorite.

Instead, I voted for any one which I watched and enjoyed (to varying degrees, for different reasons), as long as I had enjoyed more than one instance of it, amounting to at least ~3 hours. In other words, for TV shows, at least 4 episodes, for movie series, at least 2 films, etc.

I made 2 exceptions to the '3 hour rule' though.
1. The Matrix. Although I only really liked the first film, and think it's overrated, I'm a sucker for cool but impractical gunfights that don't try to pretend to be realistic.
2. Predator. Despite not having good sequels IMO, watching it with some friends at an inappropriately young age led to all manner of fun, probably life-threatening games involving sneaking through the forest covered with mud and leaves, armed with sticks, and jumping off of trees we'd climbed to surprise each other. Sadly someone's parents found out what was going on (the mud-caked clothing might have been a hint), and soon we were all forbidden to ever play 'Predators vs. Commandos' again. Still, that alone is enough to make me love the movie forever.



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Lord of the Rings is way overrated. The films are just too long and they bored me to tears.


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How could anyone vote Pirates of the Caribbean?

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Lord of the Rings is way overrated. The films are just too long and they bored me to tears.
Yeah, the epic battle scenes and awesome cinematography are just so dull.


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Yeah, the epic battle scenes and awesome cinematography are just so dull.
Hush you, you appear to be dogging every post I make. I name you, my internetz rival.

and the pirates of the caribbean film was good..notice i say film...i refuse to let dead mans chest and at world's end to be classed as PotC


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Curse of the Black Pearl was a good movie. The rest of the series...not so much.


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Curse of the Black Pearl is no doubt my favorite, but they all had the moments. It is just the rest of them had less of those moments. Still had fun watching Depp and would watch Knightley paint her house.

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Curse of the Black Pearl was a good movie. The rest of the series...not so much.
The first movie was hard for me to sit through. The second one was impossible, so, naturally, I didn't even bother with the third.


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I voted for PotC. Maybe I'm just a mutant freak, but I really liked all three movies, and I honestly have no idea why people rag on the other two movies as being unpiratey - it's not even a Matrix-like deal here, this is hardcore piratey adventure.


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PotC's a freaking live-action cartoon, and not even a good cartoon like classic Looney Tunes. It's more like a crappy Cartoon Network cartoon from the late 90s.

Stupidity overload.


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There were crappy Cartoon Network cartoons in the late 90s?


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The first movie was hard for me to sit through.
I liked it well enough - but it's not a patch on the 'proper' Pirate films like Captain Blood, The Black Swan, Against All Flags or Treasure Island. And the soundtrack is pretty good, too, or at least good enough background noise for when I'm working on my miniature Pirate fleet.

I keep hoping for a more realistic film about Pirates (not that any of the ones I mentioned were, but they were fun), but it seems there's no interest unless the ship is captained by a 60s glam rock star who fights the undead.

And Blackbeard's in the next one...






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Hey, maybe they won't make him into the Devil, maybe they'll make him what he was in real life - a terrifying lunatic.


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Curse of the Black Pearl was a good movie. The rest of the series...not so much.
This is exactly how I feel. The first film really was great, but the second installment just could maintain such a high level and thus screwed the series.

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and I honestly have no idea why people rag on the other two movies as being unpiratey - it's not even a Matrix-like deal here, this is hardcore piratey adventure.
unpiratey? They are piratey sure enough, but lack quality to back it up.

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QFT. That was one of the best cartoon periods in my opinion.

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QFT. That was one of the best cartoon periods in my opinion.
That's because you were 2-5, prime cartoon watching age, so anything you saw back then would be awesome to you. I don't recommend taking a long hard look back at any of it, since you'll just be sad.

I was in a similar age range when the original Transformers cartoons were playing, so they seemed like the height of awesome to me. I plan to never watch them again, because they probably weren't, and I love my rose-tinted nostalgia goggles. Same goes for ThunderCats, though I always preferred Transformers for the simple reason that robots are inherently awesome, but cats are not.

Around about this second, I'm realizing that I just criticized Transformers and cats on a geek forum. That may not have been a good idea.

edit: Never said you're wrong, or that your opinion is invalid, just that it's an opinion that can be easily predicted for just about anybody based solely on their age.



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On the other hand, Looney Tunes remains awesome.


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unpiratey? They are piratey sure enough, but lack quality to back it up.
Lack quality how? I mean, they're no Prequel trilogy or Matrix Re-whatevers.


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Lack quality how? I mean, they're no Prequel trilogy or Matrix Re-whatevers.

Sometimes it's better that way, Look how bad they screwed up, the rest of the Jaws sequels!


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Lack quality how? I mean, they're no Prequel trilogy or Matrix Re-whatevers.
Well, I guess they have their strong points like a good cast, great ideas, and story lines, etc... I'll agree that the potential was there, but the execution of the later two films was not. Despite that I still plan on seeing the new one being released this year. There is always room for redemption in my book.

I'm not ranting on them if that's how it's coming across. It isn't a terrible series, but average at best IMO.

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Well, I guess they have their strong points like a good cast, great ideas, and story lines, etc... I'll agree that the potential was there, but the execution of the later two films was not. Despite that I still plan on seeing the new one being released this year. There is always room for redemption in my book.

I'm not ranting on them if that's how it's coming across. It isn't a terrible series, but average at best IMO.
No, you didn't come across that way. I just genuinely don't get what people find inferior in the latter two movies. The way I see it, there's nothing in them you can hate without hating the first movie as well...


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I haven't seen At World's End, but Dead Man's Chest was filled with plot holes. For example, Norrington's disgrace. At the end of Curse of the Black Pearl, he basically agrees to let Sparrow go, and then all of the sudden he's become Captain Ahab? Wtf, mate? And then there's the stupid, -stupid- cannibal island section, the overemphasis of Jack Sparrow, and so on.


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I don't consider the Norrinton part to be a plot hole. He did not agree to let Jack go, his quoted was...""Well, I think we can afford to give him one day's head start."
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No, you didn't come across that way. I just genuinely don't get what people find inferior in the latter two movies. The way I see it, there's nothing in them you can hate without hating the first movie as well...
From my point of view, with the first movie the entire premise was a novel concept, but the novelty had worn off by the time the second film was released.


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Yeah, the kind of guy who gives Sparrow a head start is -not- the kind of guy he's seen to be in Dead Man's Chest.

That said, I don't think the plot of Dead Man's Chest was all that bad. It just wasn't done nearly as well as the first movie.


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No, you didn't come across that way. I just genuinely don't get what people find inferior in the latter two movies. The way I see it, there's nothing in them you can hate without hating the first movie as well...
I think that both the latter two movies could have been told in shorter time than they were. Lot's of extra scenes were added that didn't really keep my interest. Like the scene where Elizabeth and Jack are drunk and dancing on the beach. In a really great film your interest is kept the entire time.

I know some people will see this differently than me so it's fine if you like them. I have movies I like just for the general idea of them, even though they suck in the quality aspect of things.

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As I've said above, I liked the first movie.

The second and third ones stink plot wise, but there's some pretty good ship-to-ship action in them.

When they're not fighting Krakens, or supernatural ships with ridiculous bow chasers, that is.






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The scene where Elizabeth and Jack are hammered and dancing on the beach is in Curse of the Black Pearl, Lord.


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Is it? My mistake, it's been a while since I've seen the first movie.

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