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Old 04-13-2011, 01:01 AM   #41
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Based off the implication that placing a number against a bracket makes it "stronger". I've not heard of implied multiplication taking president over other forms. If this was true, the answer to the first problem would be 2.

16 ÷ 2[8 – 3(4 – 2)] + 1
=> 16 ÷ 2[8 – 3(2)] + 1
=> 16 ÷ 2[8 – 6] + 1*
=> 16 ÷ 2[2] + 1
=> 8[2] + 1
=>17

* = or distribute here: (16/2*8 - 16/2*6) + 1 => 17
This method can also be used on the first problem:
24*9 + 24*3 => 288



Augh. Looking online it seems there's huge debates on this even in math and physics forums. God I hate maths.

My 89, 92 and MATLAB agree with me on both problems though. And they've never steered me wrong before. The biggest problem with all of these equations are that they are poorly written and would hopefully never be used in real life calculations for the reasons this thread has demonstrated.

Also, This.

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Old 04-13-2011, 02:06 AM   #42
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Augh. Looking online it seems there's huge debates on this even in math and physics forums. God I hate maths.
Also, This.

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"Augh" is about right. I noticed the same problem in many of those forums myself. The baby thing was kinda funny, though.


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288.
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That settles it... it's 2


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Old 04-13-2011, 05:23 PM   #46
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I should've remembered, PEMDAS isn't really valid. It really should be PE(M&D)(A&S), but that would defeat the purpose of the mnemonic. Multiplication has the same priority as division.

The only thing that makes this math problem a matter of opinion is whether the sloppy notation allows implied multiplication. The solution is, of course, not using sloppy, ambiguous, notation.

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Old 04-13-2011, 06:20 PM   #47
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What exactly was sloppy about it? Besides using an ÷ instead of /. I'm no math genius but it seemed pretty straightforward to me. Why use ()s if your just going to ignore them? Values side by side should be multiplied as in: E=MC² is the same as E=M*C².

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Old 04-14-2011, 12:29 AM   #48
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It's very ambiguous in it's delivery. Is it 48 over everything else or what?

For instance, if this had to compile for a microprocessor, I would most likely use the distributive property to rewrite it like this:

Where 48=a, 2=b, 9=c, and 3=d:

((a/b*c) + (a/b*d))

Unless you want it to be 2 *fist shake* and then it would just be a matter of doing this: (a÷(b(c+d)))
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Come on people, you should all know better.

The answer is obviously, and unequivocally, 42.


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It's very ambiguous in it's delivery. Is it 48 over everything else or what?

For instance, if this had to compile for a microprocessor, I would most likely use the distributive property to rewrite it like this:

Where 48=a, 2=b, 9=c, and 3=d:

((a/b*c) + (a/b*d))

Unless you want it to be 2 *fist shake* and then it would just be a matter of doing this: (a÷(b(c+d)))
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48/2(9+3) = 48/2*(9+3) = 48/(2*9+2*3) = 48/(18+6) = 48/24 = 2


(48/2)(9+3) = 288

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288? must be some new kind of math.

(48÷2)(9+3)=288
48÷2(9+3)=48÷2(12)= 48÷24=2
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The answer is obviously, and unequivocally, 42.
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This gives me all the tools i need for trolling, but i can´t be bothered so I´ll simply put it this way: I don´t speak English as my first language, so I could have memorized words, grammar etc.

And by the way, I didn´t do any English homework in the entire high school, which is a feat I´m rather proud of.
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48÷2(9+3) =

48
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48
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2

24(12) = 288

My College Algebra teacher last year gave us this question and 288 was the answer.
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I only assumed otherwise because Lynk was referring to 'English' as a subject the way a native speaker means it. It would be reasonable (though in this case incorrect) to assume that you were referring to the same subject as the person quoted. English as a foreign language class is a totally different beast to English as a native language class, as is true with any language. Not really sure where trolling would happen, unless you went for 'lol American doesn't know other countries exist', which really doesn't provoke anyone, since being jealous of our freedoms is perfectly understandable.
You do know that i live in "the best country in the world" (according to this article: http://www.newsweek.com/feature/2010...ountries.html#) so i don´t have to be jealous of your freedoms. Why did you think that would provoke me?

Let´s just drop this, I won´t come back because i became rather allergic to math when i prepared for the exams...


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You do know that i live in "the best country in the world" (according to this article: http://www.newsweek.com/feature/2010...ountries.html#) so i don´t have to be jealous of your freedoms. Why did you think that would provoke me?

Let´s just drop this, I won´t come back because i became rather allergic to math when i prepared for the exams...

I always knew Canadians were better than us US folks. I mean hell... look at who we chose for President... that indicates that major rough times are upon us, when we choose the Democrat that will increase our debt rather than try to break even.
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48÷2(9+3) = WTF?

WAIT JUST A DOGGONE MINUTE HERE! OKAY, WHO THE HELL GAVE YA'LL THE COMBINATION TO MY SENTRY SAFE?!


And most important question of all, why in the hell are you guys playing around with it, as if it was some complex math problem? I mean really....beats all I ever seen.


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My College Algebra teacher last year gave us this question and 288 was the answer.
See end of post #37.

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Well, Newsweek? That explains everything.

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48/2(9+3) = 48/2*(9+3) = 48/(2*9+2*3) = 48/(18+6) = 48/24 = 2


(48/2)(9+3) = 288

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