Amy Winehouse found dead.

[Taak Farst]

'Bout time. Well done making it this far, with all those drug habits.

Sky News reported it.

Source

[Astor]

Originally Posted by Taak Farst

'Bout time.

'Bout time'?

I didn't like her music, or approve of her lifestyle, but she was clearly a troubled person, and was after all, a human being.

[adamqd]

the 27 Club, although I wouldn't categorize her with those greats. Good singer, but an idiot, I have no sympathy other than for her family.

[Taak Farst]

Originally Posted by Astor

'Bout time'?

I didn't like her music, or approve of her lifestyle, but she was clearly a troubled person, and was after all, a human being.

Was simply referring to the drug habits. It's about time, with all those drugs she took. Not "Bout time, I was waiting for her to die, cause i'm just that sick"

On that same note though, I don't care, and quite frankly don't have sympathy for her. Silly girl.

[igyman]

Agreed. With those drug habits it was just a matter of time. I didn't like her music, but it's undeniable that she had a great singing voice. Such wasted potential. Hopefully others might learn from her mistakes and not repeat them.

Condolences to her family.

[Q]

Shocking.

[Drunkside]

Originally Posted by Q

Shocking.

This.

[SITH LORD 872]

It's sad to see someone waste their life and talent on something stupid, I didn't care for her music, but i don't wish her to be dead, Had she gone for help she would still be here, Sadly some people feel they can't be helped or don't want to get help!!

[Lynk Former]

Come to Ahto and find a thread about Amy Winehouse who I don't really give a **** about and really shouldn't be getting this much attention in the first place. Look around for a thread about 90+ people dead in Norway... nothing.

[beanlord56]

Originally Posted by Lynk Former
Come to Ahto and find a thread about Amy Winehouse who I don't really give a **** about and really shouldn't be getting this much attention in the first place. Look around for a thread about 90+ people dead in Norway... nothing.

This

[The Doctor]

Originally Posted by Lynk Former

Come to Ahto and find a thread about Amy Winehouse who I don't really give a **** about and really shouldn't be getting this much attention in the first place. Look around for a thread about 90+ people dead in Norway... nothing.

Unless those 90+ people were killed as part of an organised terrorist plot that resulted in the worst violence and bloodshed the nation has seen since the second world war, it can't hope to compete with news of a random celebrity being killed by her petty vices.

... wait.

[Jae Onasi]

Originally Posted by Taak Farst

Was simply referring to the drug habits. It's about time, with all those drugs she took. Not "Bout time, I was waiting for her to die, cause i'm just that sick"

On that same note though, I don't care, and quite frankly don't have sympathy for her. Silly girl.

My utter lack of respect for both this post and the OP may actually exceed your utter lack of tact.

[Mandalorian Knight]

Originally Posted by Jae Onasi

My utter lack of respect for both this post and the OP may actually exceed your utter lack of tact.

This

[Taak Farst]

Originally Posted by Jae Onasi

My utter lack of respect for both this post and the OP may actually exceed your utter lack of tact.

um. wut?

[Totenkopf]

Originally Posted by drunkside

This.

I'll third on this. Not surprising.

Originally Posted by lynk

Come to Ahto and find a thread about Amy Winehouse who I don't really give a **** about and really shouldn't be getting this much attention in the first place. Look around for a thread about 90+ people dead in Norway... nothing.

You could start your own thread.....

[Bob Lion54]

Originally Posted by Taak Farst

um. wut?

Allow me to preform a bit of cryptology on the statement eluding your comprehension as it appears the cipher is above your pay grade.

"Your posts were quite rude and [Jae] found them to be disrespectful."

[Ctrl Alt Del]

Tactless jokes about rock, marijuana and other drugs are popping up on Facebook like there's no tomorrow. Comparisons with other artists dead that young (and specifically at 27) are pretty common too.

I'm sad to see her gone. She had quite the voice. It's true that she abused of her body by drugs, most prominently, but she didn't care. I get mad at the hypocrisy of people sometimes. Some will say she had it coming because she was banging seven gram rocks but they forget that alcohol and cigarettes are drugs too, with sometimes even more malevolent effects on the body. She enjoyed her life and didn't care about what people thought of her. Pretty artsy.

And I agree that the Norway incidents are relatively more important and shock-inducing than this bit of news. Sad either way.

[Lynk Former]

Originally Posted by Totenkopf

You could start your own thread.....

When have you ever seen me start a thread?

[Ctrl Alt Del]

Originally Posted by Lynk Former

When have you ever seen me start a thread?

A few times around there: http://www.twilightlynk.com/

[mimartin]

Originally Posted by Lynk Former

When have you ever seen me start a thread?

Around here?
12/12/2010

Originally Posted by SITH LORD 872

Had she gone for help she would still be here, Sadly some people feel they can't be helped or don't want to get help!!

If curing addiction was easy, then we would not have these senseless deaths.

RIP…knew the name (mainly because of the addiction), but did not know the music. Still my condolences to her family, friends and fans.

[Taak Farst]

Originally Posted by Bob Lion54

Allow me to preform a bit of cryptology on the statement eluding your comprehension as it appears the cipher is above your pay grade.

"Your posts were quite rude and [Jae] found them to be disrespectful."

Oh well then, apologies, but it's simply my opinion. If you're going to get yourself rich, with an amazing singing voice and have everything going for you, and then kill yourself with ongoing drug habits, I have no sympathy for you. It's just stupid.

[adamqd]

Amy winehouse squandered what talent she had and used drugs to destroy her body, and she was probably the furthest thing from our thoughts until she died, now we are falling out and flaming each other over it, why not move along now? And yes sarcasm is flaming.

[Jae Onasi]

Frankly, some of the incredibly and utterly insensitive comments in this thread make me want to throw up. Yes, some are falling over the fact that she's a celeb who's dead.

However, I think it's what she respresents to those of us who've had family members and friends who have struggled horribly with drug and alcohol addiction that makes me sad for her. I have a friend who I went to school with from kindergarten all the way through high school who died in his early 30's from liver failure from drinking himself to death. Several other friends have been in and out of rehab. My husband's half-brother has end-stage liver cirrhosis and can't get off the drugs and alcohol. We don't know if he's alive--we don't keep up with him after learning at my mother-in-law's funeral what he'd done to his younger siblings. He drinks himself to death because he is a tortured soul who tries to escape his horrendous guilt with drugs and alcohol. I see far too many of these same people at the homeless shelter in our town.

Amy Winehouse is likely much the same. True, some people decide on a lark to try drugs or alcohol and then end up addicted. Most, however, use drugs because of something in their lives or their pasts that is so dark, so awful, so heart-wrenching that we would be horrified by it if we found out what it was, and wonder how they even managed to survive the event.

We may never know what drove Amy to try to escape reality by drinking that much or making herself a zombie with drugs, but it clearly was something so bad that she could never face reality without them.

I didn't particularly care for Amy Winehouse's music, or the fact that she was a celebrity. I do care that she was only 27 when she died, and I'm now using the past tense to describe someone who had substantial music talent. I care about the fact that she was such a tortured soul from her inner demons and possible bipolar disorder that she killed herself, either accidentally or on purpose, with the very things she was using to try to flee those demons.

THAT is what is sad about her death, and THAT is what is sad about anyone, celebrity or not, who dies this way.

We should be praying for them, thinking good thoughts for them, and trying to help them in some way--volunteering or helping a homeless shelter or drug center in some way, even if it's only donating a bag of groceries or gently used clothes, or spending a bit of time listening to them as they work through the horrors that drive them to drink or do drugs.

Her death should not give us cause to troll and poke fun. Her death should inspire us to get off our butts and try to make some kind of difference in the lives of those who face the horrors she died trying to face.

[Sabretooth]

If we don't sympathise with the dead, who are we going to sympathise with, the living?

[adamqd]

The Sad truth is that a lot of people dont have Demons until they become drug addicts, I personally know several people who started injecting Heroin because they were fans of Guns n Roses, or wanted that sunset strip lifestyle, whatever... They are shadows of their former selves and I cannot trust then in my house for fear of theft, they are zombies. I had a very happy childhood, but chose to start snorting cocaine at dance clubs in the late 90's, I spent the first half of the 00's as a paranoid recluse who suffered panic attacks, I'm a good place now, but it was my choices that screwed a good 8 years of my life. I guess I have less patience for these types of things than some. I do however respect your kind nature and thoughts of others Jae.

[SITH LORD 872]

Originally Posted by Taak Farst

Oh well then, apologies, but it's simply my opinion. If you're going to get yourself rich, with an amazing singing voice and have everything going for you, and then kill yourself with ongoing drug habits, I have no sympathy for you. It's just stupid.

Sometimes Fame and Fortune can be a scary thing for some, Some handle it by showering themselves with little things, And some use Drugs and alcohol as a means!!

[Taak Farst]

I never doubted the sadness of the situation, but anyone who even starts on drugs is stupid in my honest opinion, but fine. Lips sealed.

They tried to make her go to rehab but she said no, no no.

[Elite Duck]

The living are the one's who should be pitied

Besides, I understand completely what you mean Jae. I don't think the majority of people can comprehend exactly what a situation means without experiencing it themselves. It is a sad and basic form of our human nature but what is even sadder is that she had so many oppertunities to turn her life around and she didn't. I don't pity her now she is dead. I pitied her while she was alive, because in death your 'soul' is essentially cleared of everything. A dead soul is as innocent as a unborn soul.

The main point here is that her family are the ones who should be pitied. I'm not saying we should send them letters saying "Poor you, hope you cope at some point" but I think that, as Jae worded magnificently, we should as a community try to help those who need help such as those in, considering and relucted about rehab.

That's all I have to say about that really

[Darth Avlectus]

Um who? I'm sorry, I seriously have never heard of her. But in any case it's sad that this is another tragic casualty of the celebrity drug life. Let this serve as a lesson that life is what you choose, so choose wisely.

R.I.P. Amy Winehouse

[mimartin]

I'd go along with 99% of what you wrote, however...

Originally Posted by Elite Duck

It is a sad and basic form of our human nature but what is even sadder is that she had so many oppertunities to turn her life around and she didn't.

I would say, she didn't or couldn't turn her life around. Sometimes we fail even though we try. Most of us are only human after all.

Also find it extremely funny sad that people think they know everything about someone's life just because they saw a story in some gossip media. Not everything about someone in the media spotlight is accurate or true, despite the Murdoch’s empire best efforts to hack everyone’s phone.

It almost sounds like everyone just bought into the Nancy Reagan form of drug prevention “Just say No.” Sorry to say, drug prevention and drug addiction is not that simple. Watching someone you know go down that road works pretty good as a deterrent (at lest for me).

[Darth Avlectus]

One can't truly know anyone else, only presume.

It is understandable that people use substances and alcohol as coping mechanisms. I'm certainly not ignoring that nor saying anything is easy. At some point eventually it is upon the individual to make a choice and even then nothing is assured. That's why these sorts of things are casualties, at least in my view, regardless of intent. I can't claim to know what Amy Winehouse's issues were. I can only guess at it because I have seen success destroy people. Maybe it was something else more than meets the eye. We'll never know now.

Originally Posted by adamqd

The Sad truth is that a lot of people dont have Demons until they become drug addicts, I personally know several people who started injecting Heroin because they were fans of Guns n Roses, or wanted that sunset strip lifestyle, whatever... They are shadows of their former selves and I cannot trust then in my house for fear of theft, they are zombies.

I agree. These are the people that those campaigns "above the influence" and the like are aimed towards. I suppose their problem is such a static life that they want something to do.

Then there are those who for whatever reason can't cope with reality. Inner demons, or a hopeless situation, or even that they simply can't handle some of the more cruel parts of reality.

Alternatively some people with demons don't necessarily use, but may have other destructive outlets. I can personally attest to this, as well as having known others like this.

I had a very happy childhood, but chose to start snorting cocaine at dance clubs in the late 90's, I spent the first half of the 00's as a paranoid recluse who suffered panic attacks, I'm a good place now, but it was my choices that screwed a good 8 years of my life. I guess I have less patience for these types of things than some.

It just takes a willingness to understand.

[Lynk Former]

Am I the only one here who thinks she didn't have "an amazing singing voice"?

[mimartin]

Originally Posted by Lynk Former

Am I the only one here who thinks she didn't have "an amazing singing voice"?

I agree with Lynk again. Something is wrong.

It was decent, but not great or amazing IMO.

[beanlord56]

Originally Posted by Lynk Former
Am I the only one here who thinks she didn't have "an amazing singing voice"?

You're not alone. Although this derives from my general uninterest in her style of music, I still don't think that she is worthy of worship, whether it be in life or death. But then, I'd be acting just the same if any member of one of my favorite bands spontaneously died, not worshipping mind you, but extremely grieved. My sympathies to her friends and family, though.

[Ghost Down]

Am I surprised? Not really.