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Old 11-14-2011, 02:41 PM   #41
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Luckily a group of three was having problems with it and requested I join them.
Do you basically have to find people that are more or less of your level in order for them to join you on the quest? I guess I am slightly concerned that if I join this game a bit late and don't have a lot of free time to play, I'll be "left in the dust" by all you good LF folks that I would typically want to play with...

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Old 11-14-2011, 03:31 PM   #42
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Didn't feel really like KotOR to me, until I saw the Jedi Temple. Was having a blast before that, but after that I was completely sold hook, line and sinker.

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Do you basically have to find people that are more or less of your level in order for them to join you on the quest? I guess I am slightly concerned that if I join this game a bit late and don't have a lot of free time to play, I'll be "left in the dust" by all you good LF folks that I would typically want to play with...
No Prime. According to what Lynk told me (so sue him if I'm wrong) you can go back and play along with someone, just not forward. If that is the case, you don't need to worry, I'll go back to help you. It was just all the servers were so busy this weekend we ended going where we could get in not where other LF members were. (he does say it depends on if it is a class mission or not)



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Old 11-14-2011, 04:00 PM   #43
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I pretty much played solo, except for two or three missions that I needed help with. If I had levelled up more, I would've been able to do them by myself.

I played on the Kaleetek(?) PVP server because it was one of the three servers that the devs said new characters should go to. I tried joining one of the existing PVE servers, but the queues for those were like 2000+.

I'm curious, do people have a preference for PVP or PVE servers? I noticed that I would sometimes get flagged for PVP for a "performing a hostile action".
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Old 11-14-2011, 04:09 PM   #44
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I'm curious, do people have a preference for PVP or PVE servers? I noticed that I would sometimes get flagged for PVP for a "performing a hostile action".
When I played WoW I preferred PvP servers, but I ended up rerolling on a PvE server with my brother to play with friends. We both missed the tension when seeing the other faction in the same area as us.

Plus it's always nice to be able to kill someone who stole a node from you. Or just killing someone and taking a node they wanted.


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Old 11-14-2011, 04:22 PM   #45
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I'm probably PvE, but I'm new to MMO's, so maybe my views will change.

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When I played WoW I preferred PvP servers, but I ended up rerolling on a PvE server with my brother to play with friends. We both missed the tension when seeing the other faction in the same area as us.

Plus it's always nice to be able to kill someone who stole a node from you. Or just killing someone and taking a node they wanted.
I remember playing Lineage II and it being pretty annoying to get ganked by some dude at a higher level than you. Until I read up on how PVP works in TOR, I'm leaning towards PVE servers.
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Also everyone go join. So far it is just Lynk, Astor, acdcfanbill, Jeff (when he gets around to it) and me.

That is if you can stand Lynk being the leader.


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Old 11-14-2011, 06:16 PM   #48
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I remember playing Lineage II and it being pretty annoying to get ganked by some dude at a higher level than you. Until I read up on how PVP works in TOR, I'm leaning towards PVE servers.
Yeah, getting ganked is annoying when it happens, but getting into a fight shakes things up in a way that I enjoy. I imagine that the LF guild will be PvE though, since the randomness probably isn't too conducive to carebears RP and chillaxing.

Edit: I don't even know why I'm weighing in on this, since the earliest I'll start playing will probably be in the summer.


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Old 11-15-2011, 04:41 AM   #49
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:40 AM   #50
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Old 11-15-2011, 01:49 PM   #51
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Thats why I cant play MMO's with women, because they are pushed in to a matriarch position and protected by all the guys in the guild... Man, I've had death threats from pre pubescent kids and 40 year old virgins because I 'Disrespected' 'the Girl'.


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Thats why I cant play MMO's with women, because they are pushed in to a matriarch position and protected by all the guys in the guild... Man, I've had death threats from pre pubescent kids and 40 year old virgins because I 'Disrespected' 'the Girl'.
How in the world do you tell if someone is a "girl" or not in a MMO?

That may explain why people were protecting my female Twi'lek Jedi and my female Mirialan Jedi.


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Old 11-15-2011, 06:13 PM   #54
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haha... that's really... sad... and disturbing.

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Old 11-15-2011, 06:50 PM   #55
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How in the world do you tell if someone is a "girl" or not in a MMO?

That may explain why people were protecting my female Twi'lek Jedi and my female Mirialan Jedi.
I remember when I played WoW that more hardcore healers would make female characters because it made people more inclined to protect them, at least in PUG's.

So, question for those of you who managed to play and get into PUG's: was there a noticeable role disparity (i.e. tonnes of DPS characters and a shortage of tanks or healers)?


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Old 11-15-2011, 07:10 PM   #56
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I'm going to be rolling a Trooper Vanguard (Tank) in TOR as my main, and I did see quite a lot of other people go Vanguard as well on the Republic side, though still more Commando's... there'll be a few tanks around so it looks like the real shortage will be with the healers.

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Old 11-16-2011, 05:56 AM   #57
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I got in played SI and Trooper. Both were very well done, Trooper storyline and quests were a bit easier. Apparently they turned down SI damage which made it really hard to play up until lv 11.


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Old 11-16-2011, 10:36 AM   #58
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How in the world do you tell if someone is a "girl" or not in a MMO?

nearly everyone uses Ventrilo or the likes, kind of a give away PVE yea, you may get some transvestite-gamers, but I know most of the people who I PVP with have a "No Voice chatty, No Groupy" rule.


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Old 11-16-2011, 11:11 AM   #59
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Do you basically have to find people that are more or less of your level in order for them to join you on the quest? I guess I am slightly concerned that if I join this game a bit late and don't have a lot of free time to play, I'll be "left in the dust" by all you good LF folks that I would typically want to play with...
I'd go back and help you out leveling. I'm going to play every class at some point, so I'll have toons at a variety of levels.

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I'm curious, do people have a preference for PVP or PVE servers? I noticed that I would sometimes get flagged for PVP for a "performing a hostile action".
The 'flagged for PvP' thing will happen if you hit someone else with your class specific buff skill, even if it's on a PvE server. What I do then is right click on my portrait, turn PvP on, then turn it off again.

I prefer PvE servers, but I'm not a big PvPer. Some people like the challenge of random players possibly attacking. I prefer to just play the game with what the devs throw at me. That being said, a good PvP match now and then can be a lot of fun.

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Thats why I cant play MMO's with women, because they are pushed in to a matriarch position and protected by all the guys in the guild... Man, I've had death threats from pre pubescent kids and 40 year old virgins because I 'Disrespected' 'the Girl'.
Good, good, keep thinking that way. My LOTRO burglar will be happy to backstab the crap out of the monsters (and quite possibly you in PvP) any day with anyone, and is quite good at it, thank you. You'd be taking up valuable server space that another player who doesn't cower at my steely knives could use if you played on my server with me. Don't friend Jolie'bindo on Belgoth's Beacon unless you plan on staying out of my Consular's way of DPSing.


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Do you basically have to find people that are more or less of your level in order for them to join you on the quest? I guess I am slightly concerned that if I join this game a bit late and don't have a lot of free time to play, I'll be "left in the dust" by all you good LF folks that I would typically want to play with...
Not to worry man, I'll be in the same boat. "I'll be your Huckleberry"

While I have the CE and "early" access.. I don't have the luxury of time this part of the year. Weekends mostly.

With Skyrim seducing me and ME3 on the March horizon.. I won't be power-playing ToR as much as most. Of course I'll be around, just not an every day thing.


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Trust me ChAiNz, once you fiddle around with TOR, you are going to forget all about that Skyrim place for a few months. I'm actually worried about ME3's March released, BioWare knew what they were doing when they moved back its release date.

I really wished I would have been as smart as you and skipped the beta last weekend. I may have been able to complete Skyrim a time or two before the early access.


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nearly everyone uses Ventrilo or the likes, kind of a give away PVE yea, you may get some transvestite-gamers, but I know most of the people who I PVP with have a "No Voice chatty, No Groupy" rule.
Heh. I usually play Women in MMO's. Like I wanna stare at a guy's butt for months or years on end. Granted I do let people know I'm a guy if they ask, or if they hit on me(happened a couple of times), but most gamers nowadays know that there's no women on the internet


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Old 11-18-2011, 01:30 PM   #63
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I remember when I played WoW that more hardcore healers would make female characters because it made people more inclined to protect them, at least in PUG's.

So, question for those of you who managed to play and get into PUG's: was there a noticeable role disparity (i.e. tonnes of DPS characters and a shortage of tanks or healers)?
Definitely light on tanks and healers, but that will eventually settle down. For example, four of us that were grouping together were all classes we would never in a million years be playing live, as they are outside our skillset. I was playing a Sith Marauder, and I usually play ranged DPS. MY GF was also a SM, but usually plays a healer class. Etc etc.

And as far as the female topic... we know because we're on vent/ts/mumble with them. lol


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Old 11-21-2011, 06:47 PM   #65
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I'll be there this weekend!

I wish i had a screen shot of my most ugly smuggler character, looks like the golem character from lord of the rings but with some hair....will see if i can get a pic if my characters are from last testing still there


Hey with Guilds can you join more then one?
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@ logan23: One character cannot join more than one guild, but they can leave one guild and then join another if they'd like.

Additionally, you can have more than one character on your account, so if you have a Jedi, he/she can join a guild and then your Trooper can join another guild... or even the same guild as your Jedi.

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Thanks!

I didn't want to do something that would be improper or rude.

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Old 11-22-2011, 01:13 AM   #68
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Thanks!

I didn't want to do something that would be improper or rude.

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And the other half of the fun of an MMO is being part of a greater community, where you can run by other people and randomly give them a buff to help them on their journey even though you don't even know who that person is.

Or when you see someone fighting a group of enemies, you help them out by throwing a sticky grenade into the group (which they've already tagged and have white circles under their feet so you know that that player you're helping gets the credit for those kills) to help out that person you don't even know get on with his quest with a few less enemies to worry about.

Some people are even known to just randomly trade away nice items to lower level players for the hell of it. These people are rare, but it happens.

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I would've mentioned that half, but the whole not-wanting-to-be-improper-or-rude thing made me think he had it covered.


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I actually found my self constantly checking the health of other Player characters to see if they are in a fight where they look as if they were losing or heavily out numbered with low health. I would jump in to help out. (in the last testing weekend I did)

It just felt natural to go in and help other players, feels good

I didn't know about the white circle, what it meant.
I will take note of that.

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Some people are even known to just randomly trade away nice items to lower level players for the hell of it. These people are rare, but it happens.
That last bit is probably going to be fairly unique to testing, once we hit release instead of free trades, crap is going to actually go up on the Galactic Market and you're gonna see trade chat spammed with "WTS **** for way too much"


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Since I went DPS this time, I'll probably be helping a lot of people out with earlier quests. Plus on my race to see new planets, I skipped a bunch of heroics and some side quests. Now that my class quests have become nightmare difficulty, I can go back and hit those "lesser" quests. I can assure that anyone who starts the game late will have plenty of others to help them out. Or you could join a guild early and have them help you out(my guild is pretty good about that). PLUS there's all kinds of people who roll alts. I know I do. Once I get to max level with one class, I roll a second that is counter to that one(ie if I have DPS I roll a healer).


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I got in as well...

Going to try out the Inquisitor probably, since it´s the most appealing class for me...too bad I'll be visiting my girlfriends parents this sunday...having to pretend to be a likable guy while I'm elctrocuting Jedi in my mind

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After 24h of download: 48h to wait until I can join.
Those 48 hours will be sooooooo loooooong...


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Old 11-24-2011, 02:06 PM   #77
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Do you basically have to find people that are more or less of your level in order for them to join you on the quest? I guess I am slightly concerned that if I join this game a bit late and don't have a lot of free time to play, I'll be "left in the dust" by all you good LF folks that I would typically want to play with...
No need to worry about that. Guild members and friends will always be happy to go back and help you with early stuff.

The one thing you need to watch out for, though, is that they don't kill all the enemies, find all the objectives, and solve all the puzzles for you. I got a little frustrated with that in Guild Wars. My old-timer guildmates ran through the missions, and I was wondering what happened.

That should not happen on your class questline because only characters of another class can accompany you into the areas where you work those quests. They can help you kill monsters, but they can't make any decisions in the quest. That part is "instanced", and all conversations are for you only. I really like that.

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I, finally, got the to download the .exe file. So, if someone can tell me the common server on here. It would be appreciated. My signature has my future character's name.



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Gotta say guys, I'm bored ****less of it! I'm hoping its my hatred of low level find n' grind, and the fact I have no investment in a throwaway beta character thats pushing me to watch crap TV rather than play TOR


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Old 11-25-2011, 02:15 PM   #80
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No one told you to play the beta so much XD I've had my fill of the beta and now I"m playing other games. The next time I'll be playing TOR is for real during early access.

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