[WIP] KotOR III: The Search For Revan

[UltimateHK47]

Ive got a name for now, though what are your ideas.

[darth-ackbar]

Everyone, I will be releasing a short teaser video of my progress so far on youtube next week. Subscribe to my channel so you dont miss it: www.youtube.com/user/DarthAckbar25

[redrob41]

Originally Posted by darth-ackbar

Some Party Members:
*
Kaila Atis: This woman works as a freelance mercenary, and she is known across the galaxy for her impeccable covert skills and her ownership of the fastest ship in the galaxy, the Ebon Hawk.*

Yaru Nesh: This duros has worked as technician for Vella the hutt for most of his life, and his father before him. When Vella's palace is overthrown, he becomes one of the few survivors. Although not known for his loyalty, he is a man of his word and serves as a mechanic aboard the Ebon Hawk, he's not bad with a blaster either.*

Hmm... sounds familiar:

Originally Posted by logan23

Kaila Saris
age 20-26
Pilot/ smuggler
Female/species-Human
She was arrested transporting arms to the exchange. When your party escapes the Republic's ship, she will fly you to Natta Hutt’s space station. She is confronted by her contact about her failure. You will be given a side quest to go to a planet and get some arms and bring them to the space station. The Exchange will attack Natta Hutt and take over the station completely. You can do this or double cross your contact and tell Natta Hutt and aid him in getting rid of the exchange from the space station.

Nindo Bahr
Male/ species-Duros
Mechanic, tech upgrades
Nindo Bahr is expert in creating new weapons. He can alter your armor and weapons. The Duro has a dark humor to him. He is Kaila’s smuggling partner. Nindo actually worked on the Ebon Hawk back when it was owned by Davik. His father was Davik’s top mechanic. Nindo’s father died on Taris when the Sith attacked. Nindo survived the attack along with a few friends and his mother. Nindo then started to work on a new ship using the basic design of the Ebon Hawk. Kaila and Nindo meet up and start working for the Hutts as well as the Exchange

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that you shouldn't use the names and characters that you're proposing, I just find it humorous that the Kaila name sounds so similar. Is it a reference to a celebrity or someone on Wookieepedia or something that I'm unaware of?

I also fully understand how choosing the species of party members can be limited. A Duros mechanic on a starship just makes sense. At first glance, I thought that Yaru Nesh's father worked for Vella the Hutt (which would be similar to our Nindo Bahr's history with his father working for Davik). On second read, I take it that Yaru Nesh worked for both Vella and Vella's father, right? That's different enough for a large Star Wars galaxy.

Originally Posted by darth-ackbar

Dustil Onasi: Dustil has reverted to his dark side ways, and is terrorizing Sleheyron city. Having already been turned to the light side, only to revert back, Dustil will be hard to recruit. He has much the same personality as what you see in K1, but his appearance is much older and looks a bit more like Carth.*

HK-47: Unlike in TSL, HK is more than happy to reveal secrets about Revan when you meet him. It seems that ten years of solitary confinement have taken their toll. HK is now more crazed than he was in previous games (if that's even possible). Although his assassination protocols are still in working order.*

Jek: Jek is a mandalorian, he tends to think of his fellow crew members as a lesser species and himself as mandalore. He has a dark humor and gets along with HK very well. Given enough time, he starts to warm to you and will eventually give you the means to talk to mandalore.*

Builder Droid: The very same gatekeeper that Revan found 20 years earlier, this droid is more than willing to join you. This guy packs a serious punch, as you will remember from the other droids in the ancient ruins. He also knows things about Revan and the Infinite Empire which could prove vital in your search...

The 9th party member I will keep secret, at least until nearer the release date.*

Again, familiar:

Originally Posted by logan23

Ancient Builder droid:
The Droid will be found in the ruins on Corellia. The droid will be damaged but you can find parts to fix the droid. The droid will argue with HK-47. The droid’s side quest will be about the history of the Infinity Empire and a secret chamber which can be discovered if you fix the droid to 100 percent. The Droid will aid you in your quest.
You find the broken droid on Corellia but only after you get to Duro that you find a similar droid with the piece which can be used to make the droid full operational. After Corellia you can have the droid in your party.

[...]

Dustil Onasi:
(Male/ species- human)
You will only be able to meet and recruit Dustil if Revan was light side in kotor1. Dustil will not be a force user when you meet him. You can convince him to go back to the force and either becomes a dark side or light side user. You will come across him in the game after Duro. He will over hear you talking about Revan. Dustil has been working in the area of future trade routes. He will work for the Czerka Corporation which wants to expand its trade in the galaxy. Dustil has given up the use of the force. If you decide to retrain Dustil in the force he will start with a few basic powers. You can also decide to keep Dustil as a non force user. Dustil could be a love interest for the female PC. Later in the game you can reunite Dustil with his father Carth at the end of the game.
When you meet Revan, Dustil will thank Revan for saving him from the Sith. You can also push Dustil feeling for his father in a favorable light or unfavorable. This will affect the ending when Dustil meets Carth.

Originally Posted by logan23

Kelborn
Male/ species- Mandalorian
He was seen in kotor2. The character will be on a secret mission for Mandalore. You will find Kelborn on Rattatak. Kelborn will confront you after your second battle in the Cauldron/ battle arena. He will later tell you that Mandalore is rebuilding the clans as well as their military strength these past 7-10 years. You will come across some old war machines on Duro.

HK-47 (droid)
a.k.a. HI-52
HK-47 will be found on the Hutt’s space station. He has been sent out by his master Revan to keep tabs on the criminal organizations. You will need HK-47 in order to read and understand your Master’s journal. HK-47 will help you in finding your former Master’s contact. The droid will be its normal violent self. HK-47 will have a different name when you meet him. This alias allows him to infiltrate the Hutts and the Exchange. He will have a new skin body.

Hey, Mandalorians and HK-47 are fan favourites, so including them is a no-brainer. Dustil is another (although lesser known) favourite to a lot of players, so including him is a treat. Again, the number of usable models available to choose from provide limits; the builder droid is a cool looking model, and it's history is tied in with Revan's discovery of the Star Forge. It'll be fun and interesting to see how you develop your characters so that they are unique and distinguisable. The worst thing that could happen is that if people compare your characters with ours, and then start a rediculous "this party is better than that party" war. Personally, I think that each set already has just enough differences (beside the Kaila Saris/Atis name) to be considered distinct. I'm betting that they will become even more different as your story and characterizations develop.

I wish you good luck with your mod

( As long as no one PM's you with a female Zeltron bounty hunter named Avinah Tanis wearing a leather outfit as the contest character )

[Christos K]

Oh let me get the popcorn. Can't wait to see what chain of events/posts this last one has triggered.

[Warlord664]

hmm very interesting post redrob41 alot of people would not notice all that stuff.

[logan23]

Hey all!

I agree with what Redrob41 that there are some similarities which could lead to some players wondering about wither you were inspired by RoR or influenced by it.

The biggest or closest ones are the name of Kaila matching my character the pilot and the Duro mechanic/tech which if these two party members are a buddy/ partners will end up ringing to close to RoR's characters.

I'm only mentioning this since there will be others who will start to compare and cause confusion and possible issues/tension.


A possible solution i can see is simply change Kaila's first name and also change the species of the Duro if the Duro and your Kaila are partners....but I would say you could do a Devaronian or Sullustan.

Benefit of a Devaronian is that you can allow different armor to wear while the Duro you can't nor the Sullustan (Sullustan was a co pilot in Return of the Jedi)


On the Topic of Plot,

Sounds like you want to use canon, with Revan

You need to read the Revan book or get the info from someone who read it or the spoilers since you will need it to findout the canon of Mandalore, Bastila, T3-M4, Exile and Revan.

Make sure you do your research.

Wish you the best on your mod.

[darth-ackbar]

Logan, thanks for pointing out the revan book, however i have already read it and in fact much of the later story is based around it. I like your idea of a devaronian/sullustan but is it not possible to make the duros change armour in appearance.2da? I will think about changing kaila's name when I have the time, unless someone is strongly against it.

RedRob, I know that is a huge set of coinsidences, however I can assure you that I didn't copy kailas name(maybe it's my subconcious acting up .) I confess that the builder droid idea stems from RoR but as you said, Dustil/Jek/HK/Yaru is just coincidence.

EDIT: does anyone know how to make a party member into the temporary PC (like with mira in the jek jek tar?)

[redrob41]

Good points there Logan.

Originally Posted by Warlord664

hmm very interesting post redrob41 alot of people would not notice all that stuff.

I started working on RoR 3.5 years ago, so it's on my mind a lot

Originally Posted by darth-ackbar

I like your idea of a devaronian/sullustan but is it not possible to make the duros change armour in appearance.2da?

No, the vanilla Duros in-game are single body+head models, so they can't change outfits. The only Duro that can wear armour and robes is RoR's Nindo Bahr, and that's only because I re-made a standard head into a custom head model.

Originally Posted by darth-ackbar

RedRob, I know that is a huge set of coinsidences, however I can assure you that I didn't copy kailas name(maybe it's my subconcious acting up .) I confess that the builder droid idea stems from RoR but as you said, Dustil/Jek/HK/Yaru is just coincidence.

Yeah, I kinda think of it as a compliment, that RoR is in the back of everyone's mind .

[darth-ackbar]

REMINDER: Only 1 week remaining on the 10th party member competition! PM me your entries, closing date 12th January!

IMPORTANT: If anyone is interested in character modeling, preferably with some experience although it's ok if not, please PM me for more info.

[darth-ackbar]

Everyone, the first teaser trailer is up on youtube. This one is of Nar Shaddaa, which will serve as the prologue to the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B10vm...ature=youtu.be

Please leave comments and feedback, please rate, please subscribe.

The 10th Party Member Competition Is Now Over!: The winner is...

LordDeathRay's Sai Morlev!!

LDR, I will contact you later to discuss more about your character.

More Competitions To Come...

[Ferc Kast]

This seems to have some potential to be a good mod.

[LDR]

Yay, my character got picked!

I'm excited!

[Warlord664]

Lol droid legs running around. Good video.

[darth-ackbar]

Haha, them droid legs As I said, there's a lot of bugs right now but this is the first version so these will be ironed out.

[JediExile]

This looks like it has a lot of potential. I subscribed to your channel on Youtube -- looking forward to seeing more! Good luck with your project!

[d3sd0]

I'd be happy to help with some skinning or re-skinning! You would just have to send me the texture as I don't currently have Kotor on my laptop -______- it would be a good idea to get it setup soon though! Until then, just send me the texture and I'd be happy to re-skin it for you! Just PM me!

Also, I liked the droid legs running around! It was interesting! Good progress though, looks like it's coming along nicely!

[darth-ackbar]

A few people have expressed concerns about some party members, so I've decided to make a few minor changes. These are as follows:

Kotho'Epp: Same as before, Kotho'Epp is a twi'lek, a jedi outcast who has been your master and father figure for as long as you can remember.

Ceddra Malira: Same as before, Ceddra is a human jedi apprentice, training under Kotho'Epp with you.

Khaylia Talatheen: Khaylia is a human freelance mercenary, she is known throughout the galaxy for her impeccable covert abilities and ownership of the fastest ship in the galaxy, the Ebon Hawk.

Yaru Nesh: A sullustan mechanic, he and his father worked for many years underneath Vella the Hutt, he escapes aboard the Ebon Hawk when Vella's palace is destroyed.

HK-47: Same as before, HK can be found on Taris, and he has some interesting stories to tell.

Jek: Same as before, Jek is madalore's right hand man and is sent by mandalore to join the search and report his findings directly to mandalore.

Rakatan Droid: Same as before, the Rakatan droid can now be found with the first star map you uncover.

Vaner Shan: Vaner takes the place of Dustil, and can be found on Coruscant. His mother and father are Bastila and Revan respectively. More details later...

Sai Morlev: LordDeathRay's competition winner, Sai Morlev. More details later...

As before, the 10th Party Member will be a secret

[darth-ackbar]

The Website Is Up!!!

Visit: www.kotorsearchforrevan.wetpaint.com

Just to let everyone know, I will now be posting all updates on my website. I will still post updates here from time to time but if your looking for the latest stuff, the website is the best place to go

[Gorgod]

This mod is looking pretty good so far, but don't take offense when I say that I found "What's this? Humans helping Sullustans? Ambush! Attack!" absolutely hilarious.

[darth-ackbar]

non taken Gorgod, this is the kind of advice I will need to make the mod good. If you don't like somethig, or think it can be improved, please tell me.

[d3sd0]

I think humor in the dialogue can be very helpful, but there are many types of humor which can give completely different feelings to the atmosphere. Say if you want a dark atmosphere you would want more pessimistic jokes, like "oh great, we're all going to die" I know, I'm not very good at humor -__-

[darth-ackbar]

I agree entirely d3sd0, what i'm trying to say is that the dialogue is in it's beta stage, and will be tested before release. If you don't like something, it can be changed.

[Warlord664]

But of course we won't be looking at every conversation in the mod so if something needs to be changed its up to you and anybody else you might have helping you work on this mod to change it.

[d3sd0]

Exactly Warlord, and Ackbar, it's good that you are taking suggestions into consideration with your dialogue to provide a great user experience! May I ask, who's on your team? Or is it just you?

[darth-ackbar]

At the moment it's just me (I know, very bad idea) but no-one as of yet has shown an interest in joining and to be honest, I've only really just started and haven't had the need to get anyone on the team yet. Still, I'm starting to need some good modelers and skinners if anyone's interested.

Also, please note that I am open to public suggestions for anything you want to see in the mod (quests, people, planets, etc)

[UltimateHK47]

I wouldn't mind doing a couple of minor skins. mainly armour and weapons ect.

[d3sd0]

I'm with Jango/Weasley. I'd love to help with some of the skins if not more! I've been feeling the itch to do some skins. I wouldn't mind doing some character skins, never tried module skinning (wouldn't mind to try but I've heard it's a pain in the you know where), weapons, armor, done some lightsaber skins too. So I wouldn't mind doing some skins. I just may be a bit slow to get them back to you because of busy schedule etc. but I will try to complete them all! I believe I also offered my skinning in my first post to this thread oh well. Sorry this got a bit long...

PM me, or post to this thread I suppose.

[UltimateHK47]

A question while on your site, what role does Taris have in the mod and how are you going to have that type of terrain? A reskin of Korriban? Or a whole new moddeled area?

[darth-ackbar]

First off, Taris will actually play a large role in the game. I'm not going to put all the details here because I'd need a mega long post but keep checking the website, I will be releasing some of the Taris story there probably tomorrow.

I decided right from the start that I wanted Taris to be an iconic planet, and the only way to achieve that is brand new areas. There wont be many updates on Taris for a while because I'm working on Hutta at the moment. When I'm done there will be more info. I might put some concept art up at some point though.

Thanks to d3sd0 and DJ/W for offering their help, I will probably contact you soon because I'm going to be doing some major skinning for Hutta.

[Warlord664]

Good luck with your mod darth ackbar it looks promising!

[darth-ackbar]

d3sd0 and DarthJango/Weasley, I've sent you both PM's so check your inboxes. I'm looking forward to working with you, thanks for your support.

[DeltaVenom]

On the party Members part of one of those posts (meant to quote, too lazy to go back)
where it has the massive list, assuming I read right, Vandar would be in your party? I think he died on the Miraluka Homeworld in a meeting. As far as the story is, sounds like a great idea!

[d3sd0]

Excited to start helping/ doing work on this! Thanks Ackbar!

[darth-ackbar]

DeltaVenom, Vandar definitely isn't in the party. I'll have a quick look and see if I've posted wrong. Vandar will make an appearance, and yes he did die, you'll have to play to find out the details

There is an updated list of party members on my website (see my sig)

[UltimateHK47]

WIll there be rakgouls on taris?

EDIT: Lol im just checking the site every hour

[darth-ackbar]

There will be rackghouls on Taris, with a few changes...

[UltimateHK47]

Oh my, I was about to start screaming id do the rackghoul skins to make them epic (or try) but then... How are you going to get a k1 model onto tsl without porting. Time for some moddlers me thinks.

[darth-ackbar]

The rackghoul models and utc's were left in tsl, like with darth malak. There's no need to port, although I might make a few changes to the models if I have time.

[d3sd0]

Rakghouls? FUN. Isn't there a mod for tsl that's like Telos addition that has rakghouls in it?

[darth-ackbar]

Hi everyone, I've just uploaded the first draft for the opening text crawl, watch it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehD92...ature=youtu.be