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Old 06-14-2001, 09:49 PM   #41
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maybe a bombed out version of Oasis... after all those conc shots, the bridge, pool, etc. must show some wear and tear..


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Old 06-14-2001, 10:23 PM   #42
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i'd like to see a junkyard style map...... with rusting ships and droid junk everywhere.

a town is also another thing i'd like to see. maybe with a subway system or some kind of transport. shops and malls and stuff...... it'd take a while, but if it was done well it'd be popular


hey, raven might even contact jeff and ask for the right to do a drazen remake


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Old 06-15-2001, 12:44 AM   #43
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That sounds like a cool level, GonkLu4.

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Old 06-15-2001, 12:45 AM   #44
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All these huge maps. I think you guys would really enjoy Star Wars Galaxies.


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Old 06-15-2001, 11:07 AM   #45
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As a map with a lot of atmosphere to it, what about one that's like an abandoned spaceport? Did anyone ever see the original Heavy Metal movie? There was a scene in there with a B-17 bomber crew, and to make a long story short, the last survivor bails out over an island to escape the undead creatures that were taking over his plane. Thinking he's escaped, he begins to explore his new home, and at the center of the island he discovers abandoned aircraft from several eras. There are biplanes and triplanes from WWI. There are all variety of bombers and fighters from WWII. At first he's curious, until he realizes that these planes also come with their undead crews. It's a really cool episode in that movie.

Anyway, along similar lines, an abandoned spaceport with all varieties of ships might be an interesting map. There could be Republic, Imperial and Rebel fighters. There could be freighters, and small capital ships such as Corellian Corvettes, all rusting through, some fallen off of their landing gear. A few might still have operating gunwells that you can use to shoot at people with. It should have a spooky atmosphere, with appropriate deserted-wind sounds, and ocassional dust-gusts.

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Old 06-15-2001, 01:09 PM   #46
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I was talking to Chris Foster (Design Lead for JK2) the other day. And I suggested a multiplayer map too him. Battleground Jedi, redone with the amazing Quake 3 engine... ohh makes me want to drool. Anyway I explained that it is probably the most loved map from JK and seeing it in JK2 would be amazing and the fans would love it.

He said he would mention it to LEC.

Quite cool indeed.

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Old 06-15-2001, 01:20 PM   #47
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Well, let's just say that there are many loved levels from JK and MotS, that being one of them. I'd love to see Spaceport, Imperial Throne Room, Carbon Freeze Chamber / Gantry from MotS redone for JKII.
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Old 06-15-2001, 01:29 PM   #48
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Honestly while I like the JK/MotS levels, I'd rather we get all new levels, rather than revisit the maps we've all been playing for almost 4 years.

For instance, do we really want to play Spaceport again only jazzed up on Q3 tech? Sure it would be fun for a few, but if it's basically the same level again, we're just running in circles.

Although maybe a few remakes would be OK, but not at the expense of getting new maps with new gameplay.

I'd wager that fans will remake the JK/MotS levels anyway, if Raven/LEC don't do remakes.


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Old 06-15-2001, 01:40 PM   #49
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If Raven doesn't do a Canyon Oasis remake, someone will within the first month of its release. As Swoosh mentioned earlier, I hope the MP maps are stellar. It really keeps the MP scene going...
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Old 06-15-2001, 02:14 PM   #50
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New Alderaan was mentioned in the novel The Courtship of Princess Leia. It was an uninhabited planet originally, but because of its similarity to Alderaan was inhabited by the people who formerly lived on Alderaan.
I think it would be a great location for multiplayer. Another place I'd like to see as a location for multiplayer would be the planet Corran Horn goes to in I, Jedi while pretending to be a mercenary.


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Old 06-15-2001, 03:19 PM   #51
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A couple of revisits to old JK and MotS levels would be cool, but not at the expense of new levels.

I would like to see Spaceport, The Valley Tower, Gantry and The Throne Room converted. Oasis would be quite cool for a quick blast, too.


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Old 06-15-2001, 03:27 PM   #52
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I think it would be cool to be aboard some type of small starship as it is flying at lightspeed. Maybe make a room with windows all around so you could see all of the stars rushing by, etc. It would just make a cool atmosphere.


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Old 06-15-2001, 03:35 PM   #53
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Yeah, I'd love that, as long as you didn't actually fly the ships.


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Old 06-15-2001, 05:25 PM   #54
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There may be the possibility of new unknown locations.....like in EF. That would be real annoying, but its unlikely.


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Old 06-15-2001, 06:30 PM   #55
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Raven <U>must</u> have a look at Unreal Tournament, Counter-Strike and of course... JK & MotS maps.

MY fav in UT are:
-Morpheus (deathmatch)
-Facing Worlds (CTF)
-Gothic (deathmatch)

C-S:
-dust (terrorist must plant a bomb. Counter-terrorist my prevent it, or disarm it)
-dust2 (bomb)
-inferno (bomb)
-oil rig (escort VIP to safety)
-high rise (bomb)

JK & MotS
-blades of death
-all the movie maps (but I ask that the weapons and etc be better placed and balanced)
-hum... memory blank.

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Old 06-15-2001, 07:22 PM   #56
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Raven members are obviously gamers...so I have no doubt that they will look at other successful multiplayer maps and try to take what they can from them. Does anyone know about SOF and EF's multiplayer maps? How were they or did those games even have mp modes? This could give us a good idea of the quality of maps we would be getting.

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Old 06-15-2001, 07:36 PM   #57
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Ef maps were quite good. But could have been better. They should have had more locations from the film etc. The add-on pack gave us a lot of new and interestiong features.


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Old 06-15-2001, 07:37 PM   #58
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Face and morpheus are great!

You just can't find too many servers that host morpheus.


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Old 06-15-2001, 08:57 PM   #59
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Well, I'm assuming we can expect similar, if not a bit better levels from RAVEN. I mean, this is the biggest game they have ever worked on. You'd think they would put more effort into it than any other title to date...right?

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Old 06-17-2001, 02:15 PM   #60
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i hope they create new DM levels, but carry over the organic feel and rolling hills of BGJ to other sabering levels. Flat and blocky levels sets the standard for the movie style dueling which I really don't see possible in online games for awhile. Per se you need to make levels that are designed for WASD(movement) based play. In FF the organic and rolling design of BGJ allowed near countless force speed+force jump possibilites. Sabering only levels = curved terrain is the way to go.

For guns I hope for open levels that offer varying degrees of attack. Levels that put everyone on the same floor tend to get boring after awhile. Levels that give you room to run and give u various top levels to fight for control of produces a sort of play that people keep coming back for. Oasis offered this, Q3DM17 offered this, and so on.

I'm having trouble describing the yardstick that any good DM level is measured by, because the proper words and descriptions don't easily come to mind..

As for CTF, the best way to put it: Large Maze-like levels is how to make for advanced team strategy play. The Challenge at Nar Shaddaa is one of the best ctf levels ever. It offered unique team strategies. Hell, a game of 2vs2 Nar Shadddaa to 200 points is usually at least an hour long commitment between two good teams because a good strategy is so neccessary. I don't think I've ever seen a q3 level offer more than grab the flag and haul ass outta there stategy. I'd like to see even larger levels than Nar that support many more players.(Nar would start to get small in 4+ vs 4+ )


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Old 06-17-2001, 10:38 PM   #61
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i have the SOF demo, and the MP levels seemed to me to have

architecture
many hallway, room, hallway, room type deals. nothing innovative.

weapons placement:
good. they would put high powered weapons either in a place that is hard to reach or a place you are easily seen and picked off from. (eg end of a long narrow hallway, or on top of a bunnch of crates.)

pace/ gameplay:
i think this is where they excelled
the maps my friends and i played on LAN were very entertaining. they had a real nice 'flow' to them, and it was hard to camp any certain spots.


the SOF multiplayer maps are fun but nothing weve never seen over and over before. i hoep JK2's are better.

(btw raven kicks ass hehehe)


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Old 06-18-2001, 02:57 AM   #62
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Hmm, i always thought a rooftops of coursant would be a great lightsaber level. something to the effect of you have to jump from rooftop to rooftop, landing on catwalks, or fire escape-like devices (of course, fire escapes would be too useful many km. in the air). the updrafts of air between buildings could help for longer jumps and softer landings. although if jet packs are included, this could negate some of the fun associated with this level, if i wasnt so terrible with JED i would have worked something out like it already. anybody else feel the same?

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Old 06-28-2001, 02:04 PM   #63
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That's a great idea, acdcfanbill, and I actually like the idea of jetpacks for non-Jedi classes, since they won't have force jump.

From another angle, the dark, belly of Coruscant would be fun too, where only a dim twilight from the sun above filters down to the alleys and shadows below. Rumors are that unknown creaturs and sub-humans dwell in the dankness below, where people seldom venture. This could be a spooky MP map.

Similarly, on Kashyyyk, Wookies live in the tree tops, and as one progresses down toward the forbidden surface, the creatures become ever more vicious. This could be an interesting setting for a MP map as well.
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I like the idea of fully modeled movie locales (and EU locales) using the pretty engine. ; )

How about Jabba's Palace (inside and out)?

Somebody's idea of the battle over the great pit of Carkoon with floating skiffs (pilotable?) sounded cool.

Forest moon of Endor (with speeders?) ; )

Imperial Throne Room, it was great in MotS.

Duel of the Fates saber dueling scene from TPM.

Nar Shaddaa with it's vertigo inducing visuals, passing ships, scum, and graffitti is something I'd like to see again too. ; )

How about the Emperor's secret cloning facility?

Rebel Base at Hoth?

Lot's of stuff that could be done. Of course I'd love to see lots of high quality CTF maps. Taking a hint from the likes of UT and of course the granduer of the larger two JK CTF maps.

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The number one MP map that I hope to see is Mos Eisley, complete with cantina and docking bays. That's always been my favorite movie locale, and it would just ROCK to play a well done map of it.
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Old 06-29-2001, 12:32 AM   #66
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Some of these suggestions are sounding really great! I'd like to see a large hangar bay, with lots of ships and crates around. I'm talking like Lambda-class shuttles, YT-1300s, Mobquet Transports, some cheap fighters like Z-95s...

Anybody else liked X-Wing Alliance?


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Old 06-29-2001, 12:40 AM   #67
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Old 06-29-2001, 01:35 AM   #68
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How about a Jabba's sail barge level set in the Tatooine desert above Sarlaac? Just like the movie, they could have One big barge (Jabba's), and a few smaller ones, and u hop from barge to barge, or battle in the big barge. Or slowly be digested over 1,000 years, haha. I can picture it now... Sorry if this was mentioned. If they dont make this(which they prolly wont) u can bet i will!
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