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Old 07-31-2001, 08:00 PM   #1
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Old 07-31-2001, 08:04 PM   #2
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good call I'll read it now,

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Old 07-31-2001, 08:07 PM   #3
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Another cool preview . This is getting quite exciting .


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Old 07-31-2001, 09:20 PM   #4
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Preview says the lightsaber can deflect thermal detonators .... interesting.


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Old 07-31-2001, 09:23 PM   #5
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wilhulf, how would that work?

what does it mean by 'deflect'

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Old 07-31-2001, 09:34 PM   #6
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Yea, wouldnt they detonate on impact?? Or be sliced in half and detonate??


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Old 07-31-2001, 09:49 PM   #7
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I dunno. I would think that a saber would destroy an incoming detonator, rather than whack it back at the pitcher, like a baseball.


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Old 07-31-2001, 09:52 PM   #8
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That could be a sort of multiplayer mode.

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Old 07-31-2001, 09:58 PM   #9
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Thanks Im gonna read it right now
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Old 07-31-2001, 11:37 PM   #10
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Yes, that does sound a bit odd.


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Old 08-01-2001, 01:56 AM   #11
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well, it wouldnt detonate if it was sliced through, i think they have some sort of detonater device in them, you know, complete the circut, so, if you cut it, no circut!! viola!

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Old 08-01-2001, 06:40 AM   #12
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I think he meant that you can force push it, like in the GameSpot preview, it says you can force-push missiles back at your enemies.
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Old 08-01-2001, 12:33 PM   #13
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hmm....yes...id like to see how it could be deflected as well
like wilhuf said, it cant be like a baseball only because the lightsaber is energy and can cut through almost anything, where as a thermal detonator is matter, and not super enduring at that...
im eager to see how it turns out!


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Old 08-01-2001, 01:41 PM   #14
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I haven't read it yet, this deflection of thermal dentonators sounds so cool.


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Old 08-01-2001, 03:25 PM   #15
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Did it actually say that you can deflect them with a light saber?....or did it just say that you can deflect them ( without specifying how )?

Maybe I'll have to re-read that one.
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Old 08-01-2001, 04:38 PM   #16
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it does not specify...
but think man, what else can you "deflect" with in JK....a bryar pistol? a conc? a bowcaster? a stun baton?(maybe)
it almost HAS to be a saber!


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Old 08-01-2001, 04:57 PM   #17
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u can deflect blaster shots with your byrar if u take advantage of the lobby error in CTF Nar(jump off in waiting area into pit fall so that you are swinging saber when u fade away - you'll be able to deflect blaster shots with your byrar until the next time u die!)


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Old 08-01-2001, 05:00 PM   #18
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ok....well obviously someone had too much time on his hands to notice that glitch...
but thats obviously along a different line than what we are talking about


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Old 08-01-2001, 05:49 PM   #19
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I think it would be cool being able to push it away, but i cant see it being possible to cut a "detonator" in half....because it will detonate


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Old 08-01-2001, 05:52 PM   #20
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hmm...thats a good idea for its own thread maybe
"if you slice a detonator, will it explode or not?"
i dont think it will explode, because of the circuitry or whatever that someone mentioned above


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Old 08-01-2001, 07:01 PM   #21
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Yeah, I guess I just assumed they were talking about force push/pull or something. I mean, I figured slicing a thermal detonator in half would be a very bad idea. Thoughts?
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Old 08-01-2001, 07:20 PM   #22
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One level we saw seemed to indicate superior noise reaction too. Kyle was hidden around a corner, and made some slight noise. The Stormtroopers commented on it, almost like the guards of Thief. When the noise didn't persist, they relaxed.
OK, everyone talking about the thermal detonator enigma, but when I read the review I couldnt help but find this interesting. This stands, to me, as being something that will greatly increase the SP aspect of the game. Having been in some more recent games I relise, but it will add a great element to the SW gameplay. An AI element that sadly was weak in JK.


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Old 08-01-2001, 08:35 PM   #23
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a thermal detonator wouldnt explode because its not a conventions explosive... just the same way a nuke wont explode if it is dropped, or sliced through with a saber... the detonater has to complete a circut, or do something-or-another wich isnt done by cutting it...

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Old 08-02-2001, 10:34 AM   #24
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Yeah, Syndrix, that exact kind of interaction was what made Elite Force so great.


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Old 08-02-2001, 06:23 PM   #25
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The thing that made Elite Force good for me was they way you had to think, but you didnt have to think. On the dreadnought you could either fight the enemy, or think strategically and destroy the things they beams in with. In some cases if you used your mind instead of your gun all the time you could complete the levels in half the time. I really hope this kind of intelligence is build into JK2.


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Old 08-02-2001, 10:18 PM   #26
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Well in MotS if you shot a td pickup (detonator belt) it set them off. ; )

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Old 08-02-2001, 10:41 PM   #27
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A lightsaber is more of a heating implement than it is a cutting tool. It "cuts" by making things really really hot. There's no proof of this until TPM, though... but melting through the blast doors is pretty compelling evidence.

So the question is, is the payload of a TD a combustible or something that needs an electrical charge?

My money's on combustible. Thermal detonator, after all.
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Old 08-02-2001, 11:44 PM   #28
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umm, i seem to remimber in shadows that thermal detonators were minature thermonuclear devices. but, those (like leia had in RotJ) had a deadmans switch (goes off once you let go, like right in your hand...) and a five minute delay (get this, it delays, five minutes). of course, this varity wipes out a lot more area than the ones in jk/mots. so, maybe these thermal detonators are something different, and dont conform to what we know about the other thermal detonators.

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Old 08-03-2001, 12:17 AM   #29
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Hmm so Darth was using his 'healing implement' to 'heal' Lukes hand at Bespin? And likewise, Luke was really just trying to 'Heal' the AT-AT so that he could lob a friendly healing explosive inside. And who could forget the way Darth Maul 'healed' Qui Gonn through the back.


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Wilhuf, what the hell are you talking about? did i miss something?

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Old 08-03-2001, 12:35 AM   #31
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T, not L.
Heat. As in "OUCH that's hot!"

I was just stating the obvious in that a lightsaber doesn't have the same properties as a conventional bladed weapon (which would not set off ANY form of explosive) and is more like cutting with a laser than a sharp edge. :P

"Healing implement" indeed... do I really seem that daft? Wait, don't answer that.

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Old 08-03-2001, 12:50 AM   #32
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LOL my mistake.
Although you could still replace 'heal' with 'heat' in my earlier post and it would still make sense.

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Oh, no problem. I'm just never going to let you live it down...

As to the "heat" thing, it's a minimalization to be sure, but it's the basic principle behind what's going on. That door melts, and Luke's hand is rather obviously cauterized (else it would be just gushing with blood in a manner more appropriate to RoboCop than Star Wars).

Of course, if we're to believe the TPM evidence (specifically the speed with which the metal was reduced to a molten state) clothing should burst into flame with near-misses and even holding a saber should prove unpleasant at best. But that's another issue entirely...
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hey hey, guess what, this thermal detonator takl got me thinking, and i consulted my SW encyclopedia, and guess what, it says TD's are minature fission devices, set off when the circut is complete... so, i doubt that it would go off by sliceing it... oh, that is of course the TD's in RotJ are the same as in DF/JK/JKii.

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Old 08-03-2001, 06:30 PM   #35
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I dont think they are the same. This has been said before......if the thermal detonators in JK were used be Leia in ROTJ Jabba would have just laughed....so no, i dont think they are the same.


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