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08-01-2001, 12:51 AM
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Lots of Dark Jedi?
Has anyone else noticed the amount of Dark Jedi we are seeing in the screenshots. I mean, I'm not blind, and I can see they are all the same person, but she's in there a lot. This leads me to believe one of a few things.
1. She makes frequent appearances throughout the game.
2. Raven made the last level first to get us hyped up.
3. The screenshots are not actually from the game.
The last one does not seem feasible to me, since as someone commented earlier, the HUD of life and force is active in the corners. (Thanks to whoever that was) Also it seems to me that the screenshots which have her in it take place in different locations. One is in a starship hangar. One is on a catwalk in a huge room (Possibly the cloud city level we've heard about). One is in a narrow hallway by some computer terminals which may be a space station or the inside of a building. My point is, do you think the dark jedi fight will be one level or a continuous battle throughout the game?
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08-01-2001, 12:56 AM
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I observed this as well. Maybe they're all clones?
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08-01-2001, 01:12 AM
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who said it was a her? and maybe this is all different locations from the last super-level...
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08-01-2001, 01:40 AM
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Perhaps they haven't done/don't want to show us another Dark Jedi from the game at this time.
And that kinda of looks like a man with ponytail to me.
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08-01-2001, 01:43 AM
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its not a her, and i was the first person to notice
i believe it might be a recurring nemesis, that would be a new twist in things!
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08-01-2001, 02:01 AM
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unless you want count Abron Mar... but he was nothing to write home about.
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08-04-2001, 08:53 AM
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Mayhaps they're just spawning the one saber-wielding enemy we've already seen. Whenever they want a saber duel screenshot, they spawn that person... regardless of whether they actually appear in that part of the game or not.
It's possible. It'd be a way to keep us guessing (not that that's hard  ).
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08-04-2001, 08:56 AM
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Well this isnt the actual game. Just a level they have developed to show us their progress, a bit like the E3 demo. Its too early for actual in-game screenshots yet.
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08-04-2001, 11:20 AM
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rave- the pc ign guys said they were shown 3 levels
yavin
that one
and another i think
i think we can safely say they are places in the game we'll be going
they wouldnt waste this much time on 1 level that isnt going to be in the finished product
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08-04-2001, 12:41 PM
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Yeah, and there's one more thing you haven't considered. Do you think that the game will have a skirmish map? Something like the Holomatch on Elite Force, where you can play online or just play against computer opponents.
Those picks with that feminine-looking "it" running around, however, is probably from a level that Raven whipped up to show the E3 people.
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08-04-2001, 01:00 PM
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Well there is another option....they could have simply used the same dark jedi because :
1: they wanted to show how it looks to battle a dark jedi and of course the animations that comes with that and they simply used the same model again.
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2: since we're not supposed know all the facts yet they probably used the same model as to not to spoil any secrets yet.
I mean do you really want to see all the dark jedi yet?? ofcourse you dont....you want to find out for yourself. 
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08-04-2001, 02:19 PM
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I hope it was from a skrimish map like the Elite Force holomatch....that was great fun 
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08-05-2001, 03:47 PM
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yes, its quite possible that this jedi may just be a figment, and not make it into the final game at all...
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08-05-2001, 03:55 PM
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Ok. I appologize for thinking that the Dark Jedi was a female. Honest mistake with the ponytail right? Anyway, I suppose that HE could be just a figment in a made up level, but I'd like to hope we are going to see a lot of dueling action in the game. Also, do you remember the really long video demo? The one that was around 5 minutes long? When he was talking about teaming up with NPC there was another jedi fighting the dark jedi and Kyle was standing off to the side. If there was a 2 on 1 fight somewhere in there, that would make things a lot more interesting! But as early as that preview came out, its likely that it was just in there to show off the capabilities. But we can always hope right? 
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08-05-2001, 04:03 PM
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I still say it's a female. Either that or a feminine-looking male. I say a poll is in order!
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08-05-2001, 04:47 PM
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hey,
Like i already said in another post, mabey those are like those robots that Vader had in SOTE that would mean a whole lot more sabre battles wouldn't it
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08-06-2001, 02:01 PM
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Sure that would mean a whole lot more saber battles but your opponent wouldn't have force powers. Hardly fair in my opinion. 
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08-06-2001, 04:15 PM
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I towuld be cool for saber battles.....remember the sith statues designed to protect the temple..if that were done again with the new lightsaber system it would be  ....cool, cool, cool...definatly!!
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08-08-2001, 10:49 AM
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I'm willing to bet she was just one of the few dark jedi that they had finished for E3. They probably do not want their other characters leaking out just yet.
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08-08-2001, 08:50 PM
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I'm hoping for some kind of Sith insurgency  , where there is an extremely well trained Sith as a boss, and several clones of him spread throughout the game--with no Force powers--and maybe an apprentice who attacks you on two or three levels.
But I also hope they don't have entire levels for a single saber fight, as in JK. I want these fights to be integrated into ordinary levels, so as to surprise you. Perhaps a cool FMV sequence to introduce them, but not the descriptive stuff that was in JK. More like a few flourishes of the saber, or a dropping of a cape like Darth Maul and the two TPM Jedi.
Agree, anyone?
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08-08-2001, 08:52 PM
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I AGREE, and Raven will do that. The story will flow SOMEHOW like EF did 
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08-09-2001, 01:51 AM
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Uh, maybe they haven't made any other Dark Jedi models yet and they're just reuseing the same one till they finish another one or something.
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08-09-2001, 04:25 PM
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Maybe, but I think they'll keep them secret until the game comes out. Maybe we arnt supposed to know who the final Dark Jedi boss in until the last level. That would be cool.
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08-09-2001, 05:27 PM
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Yeah, it would. It would be fun for the story to unfold as you go along, instead of knowing who going to fight before you even start the game!
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08-09-2001, 10:48 PM
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Well personally I hope sHe is not the final boss because I don't think a Tom-Girl or Tom-Boy would fit a Major Dark Jedi.
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08-09-2001, 11:05 PM
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Force-sensitivity always seemed to be pretty equal-opportunity to me. A lot of Yoda's charm was that he was so completely not what Luke was expecting, for example. 
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08-10-2001, 06:34 PM
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Denise, I agree with you, but with Yoda, he initially provided a little comic relief. Then, in his hut with Luke, he had a conversation with Ben Kenobi's voice, and dramatically revealed himself to be a Jedi Master.
Unless they can work a dramatic revelation into an FMV sequence, a lot of the charm that Yoda had will be missing. That is, if you think a Dark Jedi can be charming
For example, if they made the maybe-boss one of the friendly civilians who help you, and then revealed himself to be a Dark Jedi, attacking when you least expect it(whoops, I just spoiled it for everyone  ) it would be pretty cool, but otherwise, I don't think gamers will naturally expect the unexpected.
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08-10-2001, 07:47 PM
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I'm not saying that the Dark Jedi needs a Yoda-charm effect, I'm just saying that it shouldn't matter who they are or what they look like, they can still be a Dark Jedi.. :P 
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08-11-2001, 11:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Wraith Leader:
<STRONG>I'm hoping for some kind of Sith insurgency , where there is an extremely well trained Sith as a boss, and several clones of him spread throughout the game--with no Force powers--and maybe an apprentice who attacks you on two or three levels.
But I also hope they don't have entire levels for a single saber fight, as in JK. I want these fights to be integrated into ordinary levels, so as to surprise you. Perhaps a cool FMV sequence to introduce them, but not the descriptive stuff that was in JK. More like a few flourishes of the saber, or a dropping of a cape like Darth Maul and the two TPM Jedi.
Agree, anyone?</STRONG>
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GAH!!!, NO FMV!!! The cut scenes SHOULD be in-game like metalgearsolid 1 & 2!! And dont give me this crap on how fmv looks better, well true but it does take more time to make fmv than in-game, and besides with todays game graphics, in-game is often mistaken for fmv!!  And i hope they introduce the dark jedi ( no sith, sith are gone for good, unless a dark jedi discovers a sith temple and learns of the past and code of the sith) in like a drop in as stated above, maybe two dark jedi, making it harder and if you made friends with a jedi npc (as stated in the video) it would be easier to fight the two dark jedi (as stated in the video!!) 
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