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Troops 1 3.03%
Mechs 2 6.06%
Artillery 3 9.09%
Air Ships 8 24.24%
Jedi 18 54.55%
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Old 08-15-2001, 12:45 PM   #1
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Question Will the dirt mashers prevail??

Who do you think will be the most effectual in the game. Troops, Mechs, Artillery, Air, Jedi, or Ships??? Why???


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Old 08-15-2001, 01:13 PM   #2
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I the hands of a good player....

Any of thouse units could win a game.


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Old 08-15-2001, 01:15 PM   #3
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But which type will be you favorit or which type will prove most effective to you????


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Old 08-15-2001, 01:16 PM   #4
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I the hands of a good player....

Any of thouse units could win a game.
True, but I think for average players it will be the Jedi
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Old 08-15-2001, 01:30 PM   #5
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any star wars fan will shoot for the jedi. i think mechs, jedi and even air units to some degree will effect the outcome of the game. btw, just imagine sending a bunch of troops to a space platform only to confront tie bombers....


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Old 08-15-2001, 01:37 PM   #6
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ok in the hands of the great wraith the artilly will be the unit i try to use the most...

I still can' bring myself to say it will be the best.


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Old 08-15-2001, 04:26 PM   #7
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You forgot bounty hunters. I hope the Impirial version looks like Boba Fett. Anyhow the best will be Jedi. Have you seen that video of the dark Jedi tearing through all those rebel troops? Imagine its a lategame standoff. Both players are building up their forces. One goes Jedi the other goes troops. Who do you think would win?


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Old 08-15-2001, 05:27 PM   #8
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The jedi will definately be very influencial if not the deciding units in many GB battles. They are just soo strong.


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Old 08-15-2001, 07:14 PM   #9
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You forgot bounty hunters. I hope the Impirial version looks like Boba Fett. Anyhow the best will be Jedi. Have you seen that video of the dark Jedi tearing through all those rebel troops? Imagine its a lategame standoff. Both players are building up their forces. One goes Jedi the other goes troops. Who do you think would win?
I REALLY hope they don't all look like Boba Fett! What happens if they decide to use clones in the future? It's gonna look really weird then. They should just have them all look plain, maybe add some cool armor...
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Old 08-15-2001, 07:34 PM   #10
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Yes, that would be dumb having tons of 's...
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Old 08-15-2001, 09:30 PM   #11
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I choose jedi. It just seems to me that the people who can master the art of using jedi will have a very big advantage in any game.
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Old 08-15-2001, 11:16 PM   #12
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I think that Jedi should be difficult to master and require lots of practice. The last thing we need is a bunch of newbies with a million Jedi! !


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1. Green light means go. Yellow light means go faster. Red light means you didn't go fast enough.
2. If you don't like the way I drive, stay off the road. . . and the sidewalk. . . heck don't come outside.
3. I'm going to drive really, really fast. That way I'll pass all the scenes of the accidents before they even happen!
4. Real men don't need brakes.
5. If other cars can't feel your CD playing, it's not loud enough.

Motto: As far as I can, as fast as I can, as loud as i can.
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Old 08-15-2001, 11:30 PM   #13
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well, building a million jedi would quite a daunting taks, unless you had an editor or something.

The newbies are going to be everyone when this game comes out, since it is new. Everyone will have to learn the units and figure out the strategies. Jedi won't be that hard to use, coz they are so powerful, but if you get a hold of some and really know how to use them, then they become even more powerful.
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well, building a million jedi would quite a daunting taks, unless you had an editor or something.

The newbies are going to be everyone when this game comes out, since it is new. Everyone will have to learn the units and figure out the strategies. Jedi won't be that hard to use, coz they are so powerful, but if you get a hold of some and really know how to use them, then they become even more powerful.
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Old 08-16-2001, 12:14 AM   #15
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"...become more powerful than you have ever dreamed"
I believe thats "...become more powerful than you can possibly imagine"
I might be wrong...

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Old 08-16-2001, 12:19 AM   #16
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Sorry, fergie *bash, bash, bash* but I think Kvan's right.


Thrawn's Driving Theories

1. Green light means go. Yellow light means go faster. Red light means you didn't go fast enough.
2. If you don't like the way I drive, stay off the road. . . and the sidewalk. . . heck don't come outside.
3. I'm going to drive really, really fast. That way I'll pass all the scenes of the accidents before they even happen!
4. Real men don't need brakes.
5. If other cars can't feel your CD playing, it's not loud enough.

Motto: As far as I can, as fast as I can, as loud as i can.
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Old 08-16-2001, 12:24 AM   #17
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He is, except it is possibly, not possible.

Anyways, does anyone think that the air is gonna be a major part, or just a bonus feature?
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Old 08-16-2001, 12:24 AM   #18
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Yep he is.
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Old 08-16-2001, 12:26 AM   #19
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He is, except it is impossibly, not impossible.

Anyways, does anyone think that the air is gonna be a major part, or just a bonus feature?
Well thank god I didn't say any of those words Tie!
I did mean to say possibly, not possible though
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Old 08-16-2001, 12:32 AM   #20
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yes you did, look again

Anyways, is someone gonna answer my question, i want opinions here ya know. I'm very interested.
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Old 08-16-2001, 12:32 AM   #21
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Yep he is.
Excuse me but you may want to fix up something before bashing others, Mr. Norghi

j/k It's Nohgri


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1. Green light means go. Yellow light means go faster. Red light means you didn't go fast enough.
2. If you don't like the way I drive, stay off the road. . . and the sidewalk. . . heck don't come outside.
3. I'm going to drive really, really fast. That way I'll pass all the scenes of the accidents before they even happen!
4. Real men don't need brakes.
5. If other cars can't feel your CD playing, it's not loud enough.

Motto: As far as I can, as fast as I can, as loud as i can.
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Old 08-16-2001, 12:48 AM   #22
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I wasn't bashing...at least I don't think I was bashing. Besides it was the Fergie cut that I got that from...not the movies


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Old 08-16-2001, 12:54 AM   #23
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I'm so lost in this thread
Who voted for Navy? (trying to keep it on topics)
BTW I bash you ALL!....hehehe
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Old 08-16-2001, 12:57 AM   #24
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He is, except it is possibly, not possible.

Anyways, does anyone think that the air is gonna be a major part, or just a bonus feature?
when i first saw air units in starcraft, i thought they were just a bonus feature. however, they provide good support and can be used in all environments. they will be a welcomed addition.

tie, i sense distrust in the air force? first you didn't think they could hit one another, now you think they're a bonus feature?


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Old 08-16-2001, 12:58 AM   #25
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I wonder who voted Jedi


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Old 08-16-2001, 12:59 AM   #26
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i did


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Old 08-16-2001, 01:22 AM   #27
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Excuse me but you may want to fix up something before bashing others, Mr. Norghi

j/k It's Nohgri
I was agreeing with the previous poster. Also thanks for giving me the warning, even though it is Noghri.
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Old 08-16-2001, 01:46 AM   #28
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I havveeee been reading all the different opinions here, and I think that most likely we will all be wrong about the jedi. I too voted thaat they would be the most influential, but the more I think about it, if I was going to try and balance out the game I would make sure that they were not that much more powerful. I few things I have read lead me to believe that this is true. First of all, if you read the post about jedi detection units, then you probably came to the conclusion that it is going to be pretty easy to counter the cloaking feature of the jedi with some basic defense planning, secondly they bounty hunters soul purpose is to kill jedi so if you plan carefully in your troop build up you will be able to counter the jedi threat. Yes jedi are powerful, but if properly planned for, they can be countered. If you really think about it, this is true for all units, aircraft would be devestating if you dont have air defense, and I don't know about you, but I tremble at the thought of having an AT-AT unleashed on my base.

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Old 08-16-2001, 01:57 AM   #29
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The Jedi will be very powerful(ie: that video clip), but hopefully they won't be a complete super-unit where if you got enough of em you could destroy everything between slaughtering infantry and converting the big stuff(AT-ATs). But I doubt any one unit will completely dominate every game because the designers of the game, as with most other RTS's are probably spending most of their time balancing the units........at least I hope
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I havveeee been reading all the different opinions here, and I think that most likely we will all be wrong about the jedi. I too voted thaat they would be the most influential, but the more I think about it, if I was going to try and balance out the game I would make sure that they were not that much more powerful. I few things I have read lead me to believe that this is true. First of all, if you read the post about jedi detection units, then you probably came to the conclusion that it is going to be pretty easy to counter the cloaking feature of the jedi with some basic defense planning, secondly they bounty hunters soul purpose is to kill jedi so if you plan carefully in your troop build up you will be able to counter the jedi threat. Yes jedi are powerful, but if properly planned for, they can be countered. If you really think about it, this is true for all units, aircraft would be devestating if you dont have air defense, and I don't know about you, but I tremble at the thought of having an AT-AT unleashed on my base.


Yes, AT AT's will be very powerful. Imagine 20 of those backed up with 10 AT ST's and storm troopers attacking you.

Also Jedi will be very powerful, kind of like the AoC War Elephant that could be taken down with like the right units massed together.
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I havveeee been reading all the different opinions here, and I think that most likely we will all be wrong about the jedi. I too voted thaat they would be the most influential, but the more I think about it, if I was going to try and balance out the game I would make sure that they were not that much more powerful. I few things I have read lead me to believe that this is true. First of all, if you read the post about jedi detection units, then you probably came to the conclusion that it is going to be pretty easy to counter the cloaking feature of the jedi with some basic defense planning, secondly they bounty hunters soul purpose is to kill jedi so if you plan carefully in your troop build up you will be able to counter the jedi threat. Yes jedi are powerful, but if properly planned for, they can be countered. If you really think about it, this is true for all units, aircraft would be devestating if you dont have air defense, and I don't know about you, but I tremble at the thought of having an AT-AT unleashed on my base.
You need to remeber that Bounty Hunters have to fight for production because they are in your fortresses. So they have to sacrifice time to your unique unit and Trebuchet. The Jedi may be powerful but they cost a ton (450nova) and they will probably build slower than any other unit in the game. Also Bounty Hunters are expensive too. So defence from Jedi will be hard, but properly using Jedi will be very difficult. Especialy for a game that, in multiplayer, most maches are solved very early in the game with early rushes of militia.


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Old 08-16-2001, 10:09 AM   #32
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Well again if you plan well even 20 at-at, and support units won't be a problem.

Airspeeders can kill an at-at very quickly, and if the group you ust discribed came at a base with just 2 or 3 airspeeders, it would be dead before airsupport could get there.


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tie, i sense distrust in the air force? first you didn't think they could hit one another, now you think they're a bonus feature?
I don't distrust the air force, where did you get that. I was just stating the possiblility that the air units may not be able to hit each other, that thought comes from the C&C series. As for thinking they are a bonuis feature, i was asking a question, not saying it was one or the other.
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I don't distrust the air force, where did you get that. I was just stating the possiblility that the air units may not be able to hit each other, that thought comes from the C&C series. As for thinking they are a bonuis feature, i was asking a question, not saying it was one or the other.

I hope that the air units will be able to attack each other, and not sit there spitting lasers like SpaceCraft.
Also the Air units will be probably the best in the game, they can take down Jedi with a few well placed bombs, but not inside your city where the bombs can waste you to.
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I hope that the air units will be able to attack each other, and not sit there spitting lasers like SpaceCraft.
Also the Air units will be probably the best in the game, they can take down Jedi with a few well placed bombs, but not inside your city where the bombs can waste you to.
Yeah I hope air units move when they fight but some how I don't think that will happen. It might be a good thing too. It would be to hard to select them in the heat of battle if they were all moving around.
I really hope air units don't rule the game (like in Focom).
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first of all what's spacecraft?

second of all, yes thrawn air units will be able to attack each other, but they may not be in motion such as what you suggested. if you're looking for that, buy the xwing series.

air units won't be too powerful (for one thing capital ships are not in the game), but they will support the ground forces as far as i understand.


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Old 08-21-2001, 07:16 PM   #37
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i voted for the aircraft. it adds a whole new dimension and tie bombers can even take out underwater structures of gungans. now that's some serious influence...


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Re: Will the dirt mashers prevail??

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Who do you think will be the most effectual in the game. Troops, Mechs, Artillery, Air, Jedi, or Ships??? Why???
It all depends on the terrain, the opponent, and your resources.
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Old 08-22-2001, 09:36 PM   #39
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I will and yes.

I found in other games air units can turn a battle, but for the best unit type in the game....have to play it first.

Also depends upon the oppent. Someone who has no air defense mean air units are the best, while if the have ton of air defense don't bother with them.
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Artillery is the queen of battle...or so it was for the napolean times....air supieriority is the key in modern warfare, but i'm guessing they made jedi's the equivalent of gods, which in my opinion takes away from the RTS element...it wont be about building troops and using strategies it willbe about who can buy the most jedi first... If you got a unit that powerful in the game then why even make it an RTS,...just cut the crap and make a Jedi first person deathmatch game...yeah yeah, they got bounty hunters so what! I've heard very little in the way of bounty hunter plus it seems tha bounty hunters are only there for jedi's...well if hte jedi has troop support to kill the bounty hunter that can obviously on kick a jedi's ass..then they takes the bounty hunter out of the way and leaves the jedi to do what he wants..i was personally ticked off by monks and protoss dark templars. I got a new title for this game, "Star Wars: Jedi Hunting GRounds"!!!!!!! Cool!!!!
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