lightsabers underwater

jedialphaknight · 03-19-2002, 07:12 PM

hrmm ever think about it? ok well two aspects, prolly in the game it will just show up or not ignite?, but in the "real world" I wonder if it would bend around and stuff heh.

03-19-2002, 07:24 PM

Most lightsabers short out when they are submerged while ignited. There was a scene cut from the Phantom Menace where Obi-Wan get's chastized by Qui-Gon for leaving his lightsaber on(again) and jumping in the water. Ever wonder why he was running from that STAP and didn't just turn around and deflect the shots himself? Qui-Gon had to do it because Obi-Wan messed up his lightsaber in the water. Some lightsabers made by fancier builders have water seals, I've heard, but Obi-Wan's didn't.

Generique Fin · 03-19-2002, 07:27 PM

Episode II has a scene

spoiler:
with Jango Fett & Obi-Wan fighting in the sea and it is raining with Obi-Wans lightsaber on.

<--- Spoiler if you have not seen the more recent Episode II trailers...

03-19-2002, 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by Obi
Most lightsabers short out when they are submerged while ignited. There was a scene cut from the Phantom Menace where Obi-Wan get's chastized by Qui-Gon for leaving his lightsaber on(again) and jumping in the water. Ever wonder why he was running from that STAP and didn't just turn around and deflect the shots himself? Qui-Gon had to do it because Obi-Wan messed up his lightsaber in the water. Some lightsabers made by fancier builders have water seals, I've heard, but Obi-Wan's didn't.

Yeah they filmed this scene. There are pictures of it on the web and there was a behind the scenes video that had a clip of it but it wasn't included on the DVD. Obi-wan had left his lightsaber power on and that's why it wouldn't ignite. If you're in water you have to turn it off I guess.

Jeedii_zaarinn · 03-19-2002, 07:45 PM

in the young jedi knight's book crisis at crystal reefe, all the jedi was able to use their lightsabers underwater and i guess theirs was included with a water seal

Darth Lunatic · 03-19-2002, 07:50 PM

Sabers worked underwater in Jedi Knight and Mots.....

Jeedii_zaarinn · 03-19-2002, 07:51 PM

yeah but i always shut mine off just to make it realistic

Kwup · 03-19-2002, 07:52 PM

I would hope that if you can make a lightsaber you can make it water proof

Desslock · 03-19-2002, 08:04 PM

Interesting variable of Saber Construction of SW:Galaxies I had not considered. Thanks for bringing this up

Chiss Lord · 03-19-2002, 08:25 PM

This isn't comfirmed but it is rumored that the reason activated sabers shorted out when under water in Episode 1 had something to do with the power levels of damage, mentioned in Jedi Apprentice. Of course, they were only used at the Jedi Temple, and Luke's didn't do that. Which meant that the entire New Jedi Order doesn't. This would also explain why the sabers worked underwater in Crisis at Crystal Reef.

I guess that makes technical sense but I think Lucas just made a mistake or an excuse.

TiE23 · 03-19-2002, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeedii_zaarinn
in the young jedi knight's book crisis at crystal reefe, all the jedi was able to use their lightsabers underwater and i guess theirs was included with a water seal

I like those books, I've read like 5 of them, I only own the first one though, one day it was in my book case, I thought it was a crapy Spanish Star Wars book because Jason and Jaina looked like they are Mexican

then I read it, it was awsome, and the light saber thing I think is some thing that they over looked.

Broode · 03-20-2002, 03:09 AM

Did anyone realise, when you fired a blaster bolt into the water in JK1, it would refract? ie. bend in the water. I used this in canyon oasis to shoot someone I couldn't see by bending it around the wall.

On topic, lightsabers should stay on in the water, and it would be cool if they refracted as well. Talking about refraction, thats the problem with every videogames water; the light does not refract. It would take a helluva flot of cpu power, but I think it would break the final barrier into making water seem realistic (besides realistic ripples - major cpu hog)

IES_Horn_SWS · 03-20-2002, 08:17 AM

Speaking of refraction, in JKI, if you shot at an underwater enemy while standing on a ledge or something, the blaster bolts would skip across the water sometimes.

That's hard to hit fishies with

, but very cool.

Furious Fish · 03-20-2002, 10:21 AM

have a look at:
http://www.synicon.com.au/sw/ls/sabres4a.htm

Dirth Vedar · 03-20-2002, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Obi
Most lightsabers short out when they are submerged while ignited. There was a scene cut from the Phantom Menace where Obi-Wan get's chastized by Qui-Gon for leaving his lightsaber on(again) and jumping in the water. Ever wonder why he was running from that STAP and didn't just turn around and deflect the shots himself? Qui-Gon had to do it because Obi-Wan messed up his lightsaber in the water. Some lightsabers made by fancier builders have water seals, I've heard, but Obi-Wan's didn't.

Q: How many stormtrooper does it take to beat a jedi?
A: 4, one to throw a bucket of water at jedi, and the other three to beat him with a stick.

*Kurgan* · 03-20-2002, 05:09 PM

Yasmine Bleeth was the scientist who perfected the water-proof lightsaber, shortly after Senator Palpatine became Supreme Chancellor of the Senate.

Well, okay, I made that up.. but something like that probably happened. Or else Obi-Wan had bought his lightsaber parts from K-Mart... ; )

PS: Luke's saber worked underwater in Splinter of the Mind's Eye, add that to the Young Jedi Knights example of EU sabers working underwater. It's probably safe to say that waterproof sabers were invented sometime later, or else Obi-Wan's was just a crappy one.

I really hope the sabers work in water like in JK/MotS.. or it will get ridiculous (Besides, if sabers don't work in water, neither would blasters, I would think). Otherwise you'd have divisions of Super-Soaker carrying Stormtroopers (Rain Troopers?). ; )

Btw, good article, I like the Synicon site (I referenced him for my "saber color" arguments.. although some of his data will need a revision for Episode II). Pretty good.

Angrysquirrel · 03-20-2002, 05:53 PM

If it is a laser, how come the beam stops at a certain level? If it's electricty and you turned it on underwater, wouldn't you get electricuted? What do these things run on?

SaberPro · 03-20-2002, 05:58 PM

A Lightsaber is a fictional weapon; it is NOT laser, and it is NOT plasma.

Lightsaber might have characteristics of a laser (which is a type of light), BUT it doesn't possess EVERY SINGLE characteristics, such as Light can stop Light.

Same to the plasma.

Although it IS possible to make a lightsaber from ELECTRICITY...I saw it on some magazine...it just won't be "as powerful as you imagine" it would be...