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Old 03-30-2002, 05:24 AM   #41
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I grow tired of this suspense. I dont feel like hearing theories, I wanna just know how to do it
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Old 03-30-2002, 06:21 AM   #42
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That pic is from me, and it's NOT a photoshop. That is quite easy to spot; for one, look at Luke`s pose, it's not the default idle position. Now look at the thrown saber; if this was a photoshop, the blade would simply have been mirrored. Instead, one of the blades has a bigger motion blur than the other blade. If this was a photoshop, it would have took a professional at least 6 hours, and I certainly don't have that skill.
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Old 03-30-2002, 06:34 AM   #43
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well tell us how to get it!!!


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Old 03-30-2002, 06:52 AM   #44
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ya....come on...let the cat outa the bag...how do we get it?
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Old 03-30-2002, 06:56 AM   #45
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Look at the pics, it's not ME using the doublebladed saber, it's some other guy. He wouldn`t tell me how to get it.

Also, stop leeching my bandwith, if you want to show the pic, upload it somewhere yourself.

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Old 03-30-2002, 07:56 AM   #46
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damn it!!!


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Old 03-30-2002, 08:07 AM   #47
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Just tell us raven.
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Old 03-30-2002, 09:13 AM   #48
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gohnker you might wanna check your original post, someone caught on to you leeching the pic from someone elses sight you evil evil man

And how about a hint Toshiya? =)
I have a feeling it has something to do with WP_NONE, but im having problems using the give command.
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Old 03-30-2002, 09:16 AM   #49
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I had a look through the cvarlist and the only command i could find relating to the saber was :

ui_freeSaber "0"

0 meaning somethings off, so maybe we should turn it on? see what happens
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Old 03-30-2002, 09:24 AM   #50
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I think they will tease this for a while longer.

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Old 03-30-2002, 09:27 AM   #51
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*waves hand at Toshiya*
You will tell us the secret location of the double lightsaber...
And these are not the droids you are looking for.
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Old 03-30-2002, 09:35 AM   #52
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I think it's a cool thing but not something I'd want to use because cheats have to be enabled on the server and you know there will be tons of people who won't work well under the honor system just so you can use a dual sided lightsaber model. And if it was done in 15 minutes, it probably doesn't have collision detection or even different animations. But hey, you never know.
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Old 03-30-2002, 09:38 AM   #53
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Yeah, i dont plan on using it on public servers, but like with my friends it would be cool.
And collision detection would be easy, just copy, mirror paste or whatever =)
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Old 03-30-2002, 09:43 AM   #54
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lol, i don't think u understand collision detection morky =P


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Old 03-30-2002, 09:50 AM   #55
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no not really heh =p
Are you refering to keeping the saber from hitting your own model?
Or when it does a "hit" on your target?
Either way I really dunno =)
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Old 03-30-2002, 09:55 AM   #56
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its when the other end of the saber actualy hits and stuff, not just another picture thingie on the end of a normal saber


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Old 03-30-2002, 10:12 AM   #57
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Right, so just copy the hit detection code of the first half, rotate it 180degrees, right?
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Old 03-30-2002, 10:18 AM   #58
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Just hope that we will all soon be able to control a double light saber in its full capacity and beauty, cause only being able to control it in a cheats able server sucks and will be nothing particularly interesting.
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Old 03-30-2002, 10:34 AM   #59
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so, does the ui_freesaber command work? I really wanna see a double sided saber~!


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Old 03-30-2002, 10:38 AM   #60
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You guys don't seem to get it. You won't see this in a multiplayer game any time soon. If ever for this game. It isn't just a matter of adding collision detection for the second blade (which, Mork, is a huge ammount of effort. Collision detection was what took up most of the development time) they would need whole new moves and animations so that you don't stab yourself and for the motions to look fluid. Above that, you would also have to be able to regulate common motions like walking, jumping, running, using force powers so that they work visually with the dual saber.

It's not just a matter of taking 15 minutes and putting it together. The one that is in the cheats is just simply there for aesthetics. It's really cool but it's not what you want. This is not something that is generally feasible at this point. Perhaps in the next portion of the Jedi Knight series we might see it and maybe if Raven wanted to take the long amount of time to put it into an expansion pack we might see it. But the perfect dual sided lightsaber won't be found in the mod community.

That doesn't mean people won't make some wicked looking versions though Take what you can get.
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Old 03-30-2002, 10:42 AM   #61
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A Lead?

Well If it helps I loaded up Cygwin and ran a "strings jk2mp.exe" ... strings is a Unix command that lists all the text strings contained in a binary.

I'll email out the strings output to anyone who wants it- I haven't gone through all of them but one little treasure I found when grepping random ideas is "dualBlade" ..... I haven't tried running the command yet if anyone wants to look and tell me if it does anything.

A strings on jk2gamex86.dll shows another interesting set of strings (internal variables probably):
cg_debugsaber
BOTH_SABERPULL
BOTH_SLAMSABERDOWN
BOTH_SABERTHROW2STOP
BOTH_SABERTHROW2START
BOTH_SABERTHROW1STOP
BOTH_SABERTHROW1START
BOTH_SABERKILLEE1
BOTH_SABERKILLER1
BOTH_REACHFORSABER1
BOTH_SABERSLOW_STANCE
BOTH_SABERFAST_STANCE

I'll play around with it some more and see if I can't find anything else.

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Old 03-30-2002, 10:49 AM   #62
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debugsaber just shows the saber locations in the console as they move.
the rest are animation codes I believe, and no freesaber didnt work.
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Old 03-30-2002, 10:52 AM   #63
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so, what is it? How will it turn out to be?


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Old 03-30-2002, 12:04 PM   #64
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The thing is, once someone does unlock it, don't expect crap from it. I mean, Toshi said he only did in 15 minutes so don't expect to go around wielding it like Darth Maul doing all the Bo type attacks.
Unless...Toshi you're not that good a programmer to program a full move list in 15 minutes...

Now we all need is the ability to wield 2 lightsabers at a time ala the latest Epi2 trailer.
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Old 03-30-2002, 12:07 PM   #65
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Until I see this thing for myself, on my comp, I'm gonna be goddamn skeptical...

The dual lightsaber thing would be goddamn cool, much cooler than a dual-bladed one IMO...


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Old 03-30-2002, 12:17 PM   #66
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Dual Sabers would make me wet my pants. That is a fact people...

Double ended will have to do for now though
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Old 03-30-2002, 01:40 PM   #67
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Maybe this is an easter egg. Try playing with the date on your PC.

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I remeber the biggest easter egg of all time was the cloud city and fighitng darth vader. VERY L33t!
I never knew about this. Tell me more.
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Old 03-30-2002, 01:47 PM   #68
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easter egg
this easter the final day of easter falls on april 1st...
april 1st is known as ...... april fools day

what was that big april fools joke pulled a couple years back on voodooextreme.com ... hidden stuff in a game and even the developers got in on it ...

place ya bets ppl.
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Old 03-30-2002, 02:47 PM   #69
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Babbling idiots eh?
Well I just won't tell you now!

-spite

PS: Some of the different Lightsaber styles actually look really good with it. I'm not saying anything else about it ^_^
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Old 03-30-2002, 02:57 PM   #70
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was expecting someone to say that.
And we allll believe you too...really =p
If you really knew you wouldnt be an ass and keep it from everyone, youd tell us.(not the raven people they made the game and keep it secret for a reason)
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Old 03-30-2002, 03:18 PM   #71
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Ok I lied.
Set your timeclock to April 1st
start a map
Here's the tricky part, you CANNOT have cheats on when you do this.
Get a -666 score during that map
Type "I do not know the power of the darkside"
devmap map
Select your lightsaber, select again to holster it

then..

/THEDESTROYER


You're all horrible disbelievers and do not deserve this knowledge.
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Old 03-30-2002, 03:33 PM   #72
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"Get a -666 score during that map"???????????????????????????
YA SURE..........................

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Old 03-30-2002, 04:02 PM   #73
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Spite speaks the truth. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go kill bots while wielding my new saber.
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Old 03-30-2002, 04:27 PM   #74
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Fighting with a double-saber would be kewl, but two-saber fighting would be even better.
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Old 03-30-2002, 04:39 PM   #75
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Kalashinikov, can you post some pics to ease our mind?

How exactly do you go about getting a -666 score?

IMO this is bull until proven otherwise.
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Old 03-30-2002, 05:40 PM   #76
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This is one of the strangest ways to enable something in a game that I have seen.

It does work and it's quite fun

The code is suprisingly not as bugy as described. The moves you can do with this thing look simply amazing

Plus I'm pretty sure the hit location is coded in the additional beam. I have blocked a few swings by some bots with it many times... and have seen the extra beam kill a few bots as well.

Now all I need to do is download that Darth Maul skin and I'm all set.


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Old 03-30-2002, 05:54 PM   #77
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How about posting some usefull information. I dont see why the developer would say that "Cheats need to be enabled" but yet you think we should go jump off a ledge and kill ourselves 666 ****ing times with cheats not enabled. where exactly are you supposed to type the bull**** you say? Not that im falling for your crap but be more thurough about it when you try too con people.
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Old 03-30-2002, 05:56 PM   #78
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I never said that every word spite said was true, just that he speaks the truth. Given that it's known that cheats must be enabled, take a guess at what point in spite's message that he begins speaking the truth. Hint: It's at devmap map. And yes, the second blade works for hit detection. back against a wall and you'll see it burn just like the normal blade.
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Old 03-30-2002, 05:57 PM   #79
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But still.... how the hell do you get a minus 666 score?

Plus, I want screenshots before I try this. Call me sceptical but I've always been a gullible goon.
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Old 03-30-2002, 06:09 PM   #80
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So...

Whats the name of a Map? I try DEVMAP Bespin_streets but it starts loading then comes up with an error about a sound not being able to load or something like that. So whats a mapname? I also tried ns_streets but that comes up with a different error as well.
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