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Old 04-15-2002, 10:57 PM   #41
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ROFL

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ArtiFag, you are a freakin' moron. Plain&Simple! -You must clearly be between the ages of 6-12 or you have the mentality to match. It's ignorant idiots like you that ruin MP gaming for other players,particularly JK][! Congratulations a$$hol3, you have just blackballed yourself.
-This proposed code is not a law to force other players how to play but rather a simple proposal of goddamn respect to your fellow players! You ignorant fishheads are taking it like we're trying to dictate how you should play. Thats not the case idiots,learn how to comprehend properly what you read kiddies! -This code is about respect and common decency to other online players. But you kids(you know who you are) with your childish intellects would'nt understand anything about decentcy,respect,or honor! -Some real shallow/ignorant freakin' SOBs here
ROFLMO, Oh man, stop, you're killing me! HAAHAHA! WHHOOOoooooo....man. Damn.
I bet you're gonna wear homemade Jedi Robes to the Episode 2 premiere, aren't you?


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Old 04-15-2002, 10:59 PM   #42
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How is using a heavy swing like playing Quake 3? Remember, no matter how hard you try, you won't be a jedi. Really. No kidding. It's a game. If you want to win, use what works, not what makes you feel warm and fuzzy.

myg0t? You're comparing me to the most notorious cheaters on the web? Have I said or done anything that would lead you to believe that I cheat? No? Rethink your statement.

Man, it's so easy to get you guys riled.
No, I bought Jedi Knight to play as a jedi, If I wanted to run around fraggin with a gun I'd buy Q3.


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Old 04-15-2002, 11:02 PM   #43
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No, I bought Jedi Knight to play as a jedi, If I wanted to run around fraggin with a gun I'd buy Q3.

If you want to stand around in a FFA server with your sabre off you obviosuly want to die ! Grow up, move out of your parents house, get a job, shut up.
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Old 04-15-2002, 11:02 PM   #44
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What I don't get is why the duels must be honorable. Did Luke and Darth Vader bow before dueling? I mean, since some people here seem to really want to live the movies, where is the basis for all this bowing and goodwill?

I do remember that Daniel-san bowed to Johnny before their climatic fight in Karate Kid. Maybe we're all just waiting for a big Karate Kid multiplayer game. You could wax cars and paint fences to build up your stats. It'll be like an RPG. Man, I may be sitting on a gold mine...
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Old 04-15-2002, 11:03 PM   #45
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No, I bought Jedi Knight to play as a jedi, If I wanted to run around fraggin with a gun I'd buy Q3.
Ok, you play as a jedi, and I'll play as a guy with a computer and an internet connection, ok.

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Old 04-15-2002, 11:05 PM   #46
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What I don't get is why the duels must be honorable. Did Luke and Darth Vader bow before dueling? I mean, since some people here seem to really want to live the movies, where is the basis for all this bowing and goodwill?

I do remember that Daniel-san bowed to Johnny before their climatic fight in Karate Kid. Maybe we're all just waiting for a big Karate Kid multiplayer game. You could wax cars and paint fences to build up your stats. It'll be like an RPG. Man, I may be sitting on a gold mine...
Holy **** man, you almost gave me an aneurism with that one! Karate-Kid FPS's forever!


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Old 04-15-2002, 11:05 PM   #47
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What I don't get is why the duels must be honorable. Did Luke and Darth Vader bow before dueling? I mean, since some people here seem to really want to live the movies, where is the basis for all this bowing and goodwill?

I do remember that Daniel-san bowed to Johnny before their climatic fight in Karate Kid. Maybe we're all just waiting for a big Karate Kid multiplayer game. You could wax cars and paint fences to build up your stats. It'll be like an RPG. Man, I may be sitting on a gold mine...
woohoo ! man i think you are...that's pretty funny. you could probably make a fortune selling it to these SA guys alone.
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Old 04-15-2002, 11:10 PM   #48
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I find it rather funny that their most widely used counterpoint is that they bought the game because they wanted to "play Jedi". Helloooooo? Did you arrive late, or just decide not to ride the Logic Train? You bought it to "play Jedi", meanwhile, they bought it to play with guns as well as the sabers, or whatever the **** they want - the point is, you think that just because you play it a certain way, that subsequently everyone else has to play the same way. This is the psychological thinking that is supposed to be replaced with rational thought and such things as common sense after one has passed infancy. You play your way, they play theirs.

You know, there are other game modes, and different servers with different rules subsiding in each of those modes, logic dictates to find one that suits how you want to play. Play in the servers that are set up in the mannor you wish to play. Don't impose your beliefs on others because you don't like how they wish to play. Then again since you lack the common sense to know this, I'm sure you're sitting there thinking(and I use this term lightly) to yourself "Duuurr..wha he sayed???//"

And on a side note, I look forward to the comical replies that surely will insue.
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Old 04-15-2002, 11:14 PM   #49
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I personally like to play the run and gun way.. on FFA servers with Guns involved, and Grip,lighting, Drain Darkside way on Saber Only servers. On duel servers I see people bow and then freak as I throw my saber at them and half their health... They'll learn next time.
The best is FFA I was saberdueling and some guy put down an assault sentry in the middle of the duel

cruel
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I threw a thermal detornator at him but died anyway.
acknowledged the good kill, he was cool with it as I was.
and I got him back later with Darkrage and Secondary Repeter Rilfe fire.

we didn't take it personally, I didn't know the guy
it was simple.. we knew that the game was a game and houner and codes should be left to wussies
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Old 04-15-2002, 11:33 PM   #50
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213. Must have nothing better to do then post a message to irritate someone.
214. ahhh crap.
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Old 04-15-2002, 11:37 PM   #51
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Here's my bit for those who like reading.
If the server is public and the name doesn't indicate 'house rules'
Then expect anything goes, nobody has to be nice, its public, nobody should be abused for doing anything.
...humping corpses just scares me though...
If you want rules! Make your own server.
If you can't, join one that supports your idea!
If you can't do any of that, your stuck with everything you don't like, just play SP, MP isn't for you. Unless you play LANs

Sounds pretty condescending doesn't it.

Thats cause I'll have cable in a week and I'll be hosting my server

And I'll kick the ass off anyone that says
'Don't use lighting'
or 'Get off this server' hahaha that'd be a good one.

I'll play the game the way I want too. Well worth the extra $40AU a month.



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Old 04-16-2002, 12:02 AM   #52
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I'm a big fan of duel only servers and there I try to be respectful because there tends to be a lot of talking after matches and it's just more fun if those aren't flame-fests, but on FFA servers?? Why the hell would anyone play by rules on a FREE for all sever, the idea is that anything goes...I just had to swear by the ASC becuase I realized, like so many others, that the people who post saberist codes and flamed this one are just plain stupid...


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Old 04-16-2002, 12:11 AM   #53
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They're not stupid for playing like they do. They're stupid for expecting everyone else to play the same as they do.
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Old 04-16-2002, 12:16 AM   #54
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Rofl.. Nice flamebait thread. I think everyone got a nice post count boost..
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Old 04-16-2002, 12:24 AM   #55
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I got in a Dennis Leary song reference!
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Old 04-16-2002, 12:27 AM   #56
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Post Happy, happy, joy, joy....

Yes, this thread is flamebait.. BUT, I did find it highly amusing.. I laughed.. I cried...

Brilliant satire!

In any case, I think it's perfectly legitimate.. if some people want to start one code of "honor" let him start his own as well. That's freedom "baby".... ; )

Anyhow, I'm sure this thread will get closed soon, so I hope you all enjoyed it as much as I did!
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Old 04-16-2002, 12:28 AM   #57
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hmm I get the feeling that this thread started as a joke but has turned into something else...

hooray for pre-teens
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Old 04-16-2002, 12:32 AM   #58
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I think everyone got a nice post count boost..
I think I will, thank you

oh yes the point: dumbest thread ever.


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Old 04-16-2002, 12:57 AM   #59
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last time i checked this was just a game (maybe i'm mistaken if so you better correct me) but i don't see the point in destroying people who just want to have fun dueling.......why ruin the game for everybody when you can play like everybody else and have fun.......personally i think it's a lose lose situation because even if you do beat all the -sc- you'll just be kicked........personally i think it's stupid


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Old 04-16-2002, 02:27 AM   #60
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Exactly, why start a thread on how to ruin peoples enjoyment? Maybe he thinks this is a mygot forum. Well it's not. And why don't people ever say stuff like that right to my face?


Oh, nm he's from atlanta. Damn rednecks.


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Old 04-16-2002, 02:42 AM   #61
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Playing JO, and having a few mp-games in the old bag and thus been around in some different forums, it is quite easy to recognize a troll.


"Man, they are soo serious about this jedi-honor-crap, i will **ck with them so they get all spasmatic of wrath, because they are soo damn funny"


ArtifeX, as you probably know, it's not what you "say" that make some people upset, it is how you "say" it.

Looking at the bit "how", it looks like you enjoy making different people angry/mad/sad/bored, with the help of your wits.


It is sad that many behave such as that, in each and one mp-game.

But Hey, who cares, it's only a game after all!



Bah, posting this is a real waste of time, almost never before have any Troll changed his/her mind that easy.
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Old 04-16-2002, 03:33 AM   #62
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Anti-saberists code

People actually bow in FFA?

Bowing's cool in duels, a long as it's brief and doesn't keep the other player waiting too long, but I don't think it has a place in FFA.

However, I think that the Anti-saberists code is a load of $#|7 and only serves the purpose to p|$$ off other gamers.

And I don't really care if you find pleasure in killing an idle player. If you find that the only way to get on the scoreboard is through cheap kills like that, then fine. Just don't expect anyone to think you're 1337 because you killed a heap of idlers and didn't have the guts to earn your kills the real way.



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Old 04-16-2002, 03:43 AM   #63
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Old 04-16-2002, 05:21 AM   #64
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Old 04-16-2002, 05:55 AM   #65
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If you bought the game to play as a jedi, fine... but I bought it to play as a rebel trooper... and I will shoot you whenever I feel like it
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Old 04-16-2002, 05:59 AM   #66
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I thought Artifex's orginal post was hilarious, whether its real or not. True comedy.
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Old 04-16-2002, 07:25 AM   #67
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I laughed my @55 off when i read that. I'm all for respect to other players and I will use my own counsel as to which code I should use depending on the situation. If i'm playing with some SCers I will respect and join there game. If during that game someone comes up and attacks desabred people then fine for them, what a fulfilling kill that must be. If on the other hand they come up and say hey I just wanna fight with none of this waiting to duel stuff then I'll happily beat him to death or vice versa away from the duelling area so as to not spoil there fun and enjoy the killing elsewhere.

I like the idea of FFA duelling and I think people should realise it's going to happen wether you kill them or not. Just get over it avoid them and play with others on the server in another area. If there are no others find another server. If you still feel the urge to kill unarmed people just watching a duel then you will soon either piss people off to the point where they will kick you or they'll just ignore you as they don't care about frags or points.

Totally pointless discusion though as noone will change the way they play from this thread and the community will eventually find a balance or die.

Let the flamin commence please. ; )


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Old 04-16-2002, 07:38 AM   #68
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What you don't understad is that:
WE ARE NOT TRYING TO F**KING IMPOSE OUR IDEAS ON YOU!@%@#^@#^!@$


The only thing we are doing, is saying that if you wanna play FFA, play it however you want, but know that if it's FFA and you're allowed to do whatever you want, we're allowed to gang up on you. You people are saying that "we are trying to impose our rules on you" while saying "you will play however you want"... THIS IS F**KING HYPOCRISY!! IF YOU WANNA PLAY HOWEVER YOU WANT, WE ARE ALLOWED TOO AND DON'T WHINE LIKE ArtiFag ABOUT IT.
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Old 04-16-2002, 07:47 AM   #69
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The only thing we are doing, is saying that if you wanna play FFA, play it however you want, but know that if it's FFA and you're allowed to do whatever you want, we're allowed to gang up on you.
erm...that sounds like your trying to impose yopur ideas on us. If we do something you and your rules don't ;like u'll gang up on us to punish us so we don't do it again. That sounds like imposing ideas to me.

I will play this game how i want to play and will enjoy it. You want to gang up on me, u better be prepared cos i can take u all on, and i don't give a wank if u gang up on me.

This is a bloody game, it's not up to you how i play it. If u do not like the way the game is going or the people on that server, leave the server and go somewere else.

This is a game, not a country, i play online to escape all the rules and regulations of normal life, i will not be dictated to by u or anyone else how to play.

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Old 04-16-2002, 07:54 AM   #70
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Ouch that hurt my ears. LOL.

Just a thought on this. The rules that SCers go by will always be around regardless of tags after names and people will always play by them. You cannot prevent that so why fight it. Also there will always be people against this idea of honour and that won't change either.

The easy thing is if you know what to look for you can easily spot people from either side. I never fully trust anyone even with their sabre down so whatever their intentions I will be prepared.

The whole idea of a tag for like minded honour players was a good one but it will not work now if there are people out there determined to bring it down. We can now no longer trust the tag due to fakers.


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Old 04-16-2002, 08:01 AM   #71
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I thought... this was just a game - play it however you like.

#1 Rule: Have fun. If you aren't then stop.


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Old 04-16-2002, 08:02 AM   #72
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Krak3n...

It's you who are trying to impose YOUR rules on us. You are such an hypocrite!!!!!

YOU WANT "FREE FOR ALL", then we are free to gang up on you. You don't like that? Don't play FFA. You don't care? then just shut up and don't whine...
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Old 04-16-2002, 08:16 AM   #73
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I swear, some people need to take a damn chill pill, and stop posting in obvious flame/troll posts (DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS. It's like the guy who feeds a bear, and then has no food, because the bear attacked him for it. Don't reply to these, and the bear will go away).

This will be my only post in this thread.

All parties involved (Both -SC-/JDG and *ASC*), need to relax. Seriously. You guys are arguing like a bunch of people from the counter-strike.net forums. In (from a certain point of view, ie, MINE) a very childish way.

Stupid plays on names like ArtiFag etc, does nothing except lower peoples opinions of you. I think I might go make an amendment to the code now, as in "Don't post stupidly on Jedi Knight 2 forums, especially the LucasForums one.".

This has gotten WAY out of hand. I'm requesting (from me, not anyone else), that everyone just stop arguing, and let people play the game they want to play it. Don't go out of your way to ruin other peoples fun, no matter how much enjoyment you might get from it (as myg0t proved with cheating in counter-strike, they got their enjoyment from pissing people off, crashing servers, etc).

In all this stuff relating to a Code of Honour, Conduct, Combat, whatever, I've always tried to not stoop to a low level and start with insults. I'm slightly frustrated that some people have, and I'm disappointed that some people haven't had the self control to not post insults.

And on that topic, if anyone can find where I've gone and insulted someone, feel free to point it out to me. Excluding this post, where there is 1 or 2 semi-insults about the way people are behaving.

Relax damnit!

Let people play how they want. If its a server that says they play by a certain Code, don't go on there just to not play by it. Go elsewhere. Don't insult peoples opinions on how they want to play the game. Respect their opinions, and respect the fact that they are merely wanting to get more fun out of the game by playing from a Code.

Simple. At least, it should be.


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Old 04-16-2002, 08:30 AM   #74
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OMG!! You guys are SO mature!!

Damn, I bet you can eat without spilling your food all over the floor now, congratulations!

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Old 04-16-2002, 08:31 AM   #75
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ditto...

What Mr. Long Poster said ---^


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Old 04-16-2002, 09:03 AM   #76
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Relax damnit!

Let people play how they want. If its a server that says they play by a certain Code, don't go on there just to not play by it. Go elsewhere. Don't insult peoples opinions on how they want to play the game. Respect their opinions, and respect the fact that they are merely wanting to get more fun out of the game by playing from a Code.

Simple. At least, it should be. [/B]
I have no problems with them playing by certan rules, if they feel like playibg by rules fine. But it's when they say 'we will gang up on you' that makes me kinda angry. They are forceing their ideas on me which i do not appriciate. If they want to play by rules thats ok with me. But they should not expect evryone to respect tho's rules or play by them.

I'm in a clan and in leagues + matches there needs to rules so that the game is played fairly. But in my opinion public servers are not the place for rules, after all it's just a game and we are all hear to enjoy it. People can play how they want but like i say, do not expect others to play how you want.

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Old 04-16-2002, 09:59 AM   #77
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My SC

I play with the -SC- tag and follow all of the parts except one... If a guy attacks me against my beliefs and play style I will either ignore it or grab a rocket launcher and lay the smacketh down up him. Thats just how the game works. I know I can play a FPS FFA with some degree of skill and have no problem with doing so but I like a saber game I bought this to play as a jedi because the rule... On the other hand I understand that others are more in favour of Bounty Hunters and Imperial's and if they wish to play sniper then go ahead. If you want to duke it out fine. I think ganging up is pointless unless it an entirely -SC- server. But if theres a load of guys saber fighting and waiting to duel on the Bespin Landing Pad. Its to easy to score a kill that way if I'm not SCing I'll usually give it a wide burth I mean if your playing to win there not really a threat.
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Old 04-16-2002, 10:35 AM   #78
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Good points cyph..

And I do not try to enforce the rules on any1..
except when they go out of their way to spoil my fun as me and some friends duel in some secluded area..
If they insist on attackin us 3 when where sabers down, why should we not hunt him down and kill him a few times just to make a point that we´re not easy game.

I love it when theres a bunch of ppl watching a duel and a "swinger" comes in waving his saber at any1 and anything, and 1 of us just grips/pushes him off the edge.

Anyway.. I play duels sometime, and sometime I go and duke it out with the rest..
and those that wanna score an easy point out of me.. dont.

But as cyph said, CHILL!
This is not leading anywhere.. and nobody is convincing any1 else..
So PLZ! We all play to have fun.
I respect your way of playing if U respect mine.


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Exactly, why start a thread on how to ruin peoples enjoyment? Maybe he thinks this is a mygot forum. Well it's not. And why don't people ever say stuff like that right to my face?

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Re: Anti-saberists code

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People actually bow in FFA?

Bowing's cool in duels, a long as it's brief and doesn't keep the other player waiting too long, but I don't think it has a place in FFA.
I don't agree! Bowing promotes fun games of Catch-my-Saber!

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However, I think that the Anti-saberists code is a load of $#|7 and only serves the purpose to p|$$ off other gamers.
Really, and here I thought I was just making everyone come together in love and brotherhood.

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And I don't really care if you find pleasure in killing an idle player. If you find that the only way to get on the scoreboard is through cheap kills like that, then fine. Just don't expect anyone to think you're 1337 because you killed a heap of idlers and didn't have the guts to earn your kills the real way.

The ASC has nothing to do with getting on the scoreboard--who cares about score? I just want to have a gaggle of frothy-mouthed fanboys all out for my blood. When you reach a certain skill level, then killing generic n00bies gets old. I prefer to have everyone gang up on me. It's more of a challenge that way.


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