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07-14-2001, 03:31 PM
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that would depend upon what you mean by stupid
If you mean how they think, then its probably because they don't have a very advanced brain, but they spek.
if you are refering to the way they look and act. talk to Lucas.
other than that I have no clue
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07-14-2001, 04:21 PM
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They are stupid because it amuses little children. What is Lucas thinking?????
Hope he doesn't mess up the Clone Wars.
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07-14-2001, 05:40 PM
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And they die in amusing ways!
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07-14-2001, 05:46 PM
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Teehee... Palpatine will create an army of cloned Jar Jar's which will annoy the jedi to death! MWAAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! 
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07-16-2001, 01:11 PM
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This is actually one of my problems with TPM.
Lucas made the obvious mistake for a storyteller, making a character atypical without setting up the background.
gungans are not annoying, immature clutzes. Jar Jar as an individual is an annoying, immature clutz, but the other gungans we get glimpses of (like Captain Tarpals) are serious, intelligent warriors on par with the mon calamari.
Lucas seemed not to notice that the vast majority of Star Wars fans were effectively raised by Hollywierd and don't want to look past the most obvious elements of a movie.
Even the most basic SF writer should know that if you're going to introduce a species, the most obvious character of that species should be typical for that species. JJ isn't.
Judging gungans by way of Jar Jar is like judging humans by way of Pauly Shore; it's just not possible because the person who's being held up as an example isn't representative of anyone else.
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07-16-2001, 02:14 PM
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Well put BeastMaster.
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07-16-2001, 05:54 PM
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Judging gungans by way of Jar Jar is like judging humans by way of Pauly Shore; it's just not possible because the person who's being held up as an example isn't representative of anyone else.
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But, alas, is representative of the USA. I should know, I live here!
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07-16-2001, 08:12 PM
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07-16-2001, 08:23 PM
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The Gungan leader slobbers.
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07-17-2001, 12:01 AM
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*snicker*
So does the US leader.
Sorry. I couldn't resist.
[ July 16, 2001: Message edited by: BeastMaster ]
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07-17-2001, 12:55 AM
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ROTFLMAO... Boss Nass is even a better leader  .
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07-17-2001, 05:25 AM
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Boss Nass became king of the Gungans because of his race, not his intellect. Which seems at times very low. Especially when he made Jar Jar a general! Actually when you next watch TPM, pay attention to Captain Tarpals. Imagine you have never seen or heard of Jar Jar. Suddenly he seems heroic. He's obviously had no end of trouble from Mr. Maturity (Not again, Jar Jar. Not again.) yet he risks his life to save him later on (even though he didn't succeed, and Jar Jar nearly managed to kill him  )
I agree with BeastMaster. Jar Jar and Boss Nass were the problem, NOT the Gungans as a race.
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07-17-2001, 02:36 PM
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I like the bit (hinted at in one of the Tales comics) that JJ & Tarpals used to be best friends. Tarpals just grew up while JJ didn't.
It kinda added a new undertone to the scenes (I've "outgrown" a few of my friends in the same way).
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07-20-2001, 07:02 AM
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Really? I'll have to read it. PS Beastmaster, have you been reading the spoilers? The ones pertaining to Jar Jar that is?
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07-20-2001, 01:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by BeastMaster:
...JJ & Tarpals used to be best friends. Tarpals just grew up while JJ didn't.
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Reminds me of George Bush and Jeb Bush. George drinks, gets average college grades and does coke. Then he cleans up and 15 years later he's President.
While his brother Jeb does everything right and probably won't get re-elected cause of all that Florida crap.
Just like JJ and Tarpals...
JJ was an idiot the got banned stumpled into a Generalship and is going to be Rep. for the Gungans in the galactic senate. While Tarpals was just a hard working Captain who ended up serving under an idiot.
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07-20-2001, 07:08 PM
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the only reason bush was elected ws since there weren't any real choices. that goes to jar jar too since the gungan army has just been crushed and a lot of commanders are probobly dead.
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07-20-2001, 07:25 PM
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Don't blame me for GW, I voted for Johnnie Cochran.
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07-20-2001, 08:25 PM
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Actually, I thought it was funny when GW won. All those bonehead liberals that were claiming that GW and Al Gore were the same and voted for Nader are learning the difference now. Morons!!!
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07-20-2001, 10:05 PM
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Quote:
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Beastmaster, have you been reading the spoilers? The ones pertaining to Jar Jar that is?
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No. I carefully avoid spoilers, especially after "The Vector Prime Incident."
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Originally posted by Hannibal:
is going to be Rep. for the Gungans in the galactic senate.
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*strangles Hannibal*
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07-21-2001, 03:08 PM
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Uh, I meant that...he is gonna...oops...damn!!!

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07-22-2001, 09:46 PM
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I hope Jar Jar Binks Dies by Darth Vader in Episode III or if he dies in EPisode II ill be happy.
I hate the gungans because they just flat out annoying .
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07-22-2001, 09:55 PM
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Tarpals was a pretty cool gungan though. I think George Lucas made jar jar be the introduction to the gungans to make it seem like they were dumb. Just think, it was Obiwan's first time meeting a gungan, and he was thinking the same thing, that they're stupid.
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07-22-2001, 09:59 PM
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Well Jar Jar wasnt a good move for TPM and if anything he is what makes the Movie bad. Some gungans are ok like the ones that didnt want to give up.
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07-23-2001, 02:38 AM
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To sum up Jar Jar:
Qui-Gon: Are you brainless?
Jar Jar: I spek!
Qui-Gon: The ability to speak does not make you intelligent.

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07-23-2001, 02:54 AM
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well thats like the best non action part with Jar Jar and Qui Gon. But still Jar Jar Sucks!
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07-23-2001, 11:38 AM
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I think the two funniest moments are at dinner with the Skywalkers, and JJ's using his tongue to eat.
The first time, it's funny because Liam Neeson's reaction is out of synch with the CGI; like a delayed reaction on the part of the Jedi Knight.
The second time, well;
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*JJ reaches for fruit*
*Qui-gon grabs JJ's tongue*
"Don't. Do that. Again."
*Qui-gon releases JJ's tongue*
*whup-snap*
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It's not often we get to see the great Qui-gon Jinn getting annoyed. 
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07-23-2001, 02:25 PM
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The good thing about Jar Jar joining the Senate, is the Palpatine will have him killed eventually.
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