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Old 08-24-2001, 08:08 PM   #1
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The ugly whale unit - identified !

hey Kvan / everybody that noticed the 'butt-ugly' whale-unit in the Gungans-screenshots..

the new concept-art posted on the official Battlegrounds site (www.lucasarts.com/products/battlegrounds) has identified the unit as the 'Gungan Dunsenn Flop Carrier'. It's the 6th concept-art image.

This clears up that it's a carrier for the Gungans. So no whale-farts as a weapon, i guess..


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Old 08-24-2001, 08:22 PM   #2
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Re: The ugly whale unit - identified !

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hey Kvan / everybody that noticed the 'butt-ugly' whale-unit in the Gungans-screenshots..

the new concept-art posted on the official Battlegrounds site (www.lucasarts.com/products/battlegrounds) has identified the unit as the 'Gungan Dunsenn Flop Carrier'. It's the 6th concept-art image.

This clears up that it's a carrier or the Gungans. So no whale-farts as a weapon, i guess..
I was going to post this same thread 20 minutes ago...but the web froze up on me so...

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Old 08-24-2001, 09:57 PM   #3
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AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought we might have gotten lucky and they changed it, but no such luck.

So far that's the only thing i've seen from GB that i don't like.
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Old 08-24-2001, 10:00 PM   #4
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I like the whale unit. It suits the gugan civilization style and it looks cool to me...besides...what else would they use as a gungan aerial transport?
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Old 08-24-2001, 10:07 PM   #5
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BIRDS!!!!! Whales are not meant to fly, not even when Hell freezes over! They just look too ugly for me, good thing i don't use air transports that often.
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Old 08-24-2001, 10:12 PM   #6
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Well Sherlok, if you pay any attention to the photo that it IS NOT a whale, but some type of ballon fish, bird, whale hybrid. We just use the term whale because it is the quickest and easiest way to describe it! Besides Lucas arts doesnt even call it a whale, we do.
How bout lookin be'fer blabbin!
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Old 08-24-2001, 10:26 PM   #7
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Awesome Concept Art.
Thanx 4 making me aware of the new art
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Old 08-24-2001, 10:27 PM   #8
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It's a bird.No it's a plane. Wait!It's a flying Whale!
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Old 08-24-2001, 10:32 PM   #9
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Well Sherlok, if you pay any attention to the photo that it IS NOT a whale, but some type of ballon fish, bird, whale hybrid. We just use the term whale because it is the quickest and easiest way to describe it! Besides Lucas arts doesnt even call it a whale, we do.
How bout lookin be'fer blabbin!
Sherlock... it's Sherlock... and it does look like a whale
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Old 08-24-2001, 10:37 PM   #10
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Ah, ok screw let me just replace sherlock with *beep* since you actually went ahead and made a whole post just to point out a spelling error..so..*beep* ..Its not a whale, it a Dunsenn Flop carrier thingy...closest description is a whale...you say tomatoe, i say ketchup..lets call the whole person stupid!

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Old 08-24-2001, 11:01 PM   #11
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eh...ok well anyways..whatever! The Dunsenn flop looks great for Gungans! It's an organic zeppelin. Nice and quiet. Only other thing i could think of for an aerial transport for gungans would probably be some kinda big winged bird hauling a shuttle of some sort or a bunch of birds hauling one. The giant Boomba launcher thing looks cool too!
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Old 08-24-2001, 11:02 PM   #12
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Well Sherlok, if you pay any attention to the photo that it IS NOT a whale, but some type of ballon fish, bird, whale hybrid. We just use the term whale because it is the quickest and easiest way to describe it! Besides Lucas arts doesnt even call it a whale, we do.
How bout lookin be'fer blabbin!
Yes But the concept of Whales is so outrageous that it sticks...birds...to normal and if you didn't notice we're all wierd here


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Old 08-25-2001, 01:41 AM   #13
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well, whales may not be meant to fly, but i don't have a problem with that whale unit. and air transports could come in handy, esp. in spots on a map where you can't walk there...


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Old 08-25-2001, 02:08 AM   #14
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If i could see the unit I could give a better comment arrg. (it won't work.)


I was hopping for an air transport, great to get people behing enemy lines quickly.
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Old 08-25-2001, 09:14 AM   #15
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i was hoping that the whale was a joke. it fits i guess. i hope someone makes a units and buildings page and try to work something out.
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Old 08-25-2001, 11:25 AM   #16
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It kinda fits with the Gungans weird buildings and creatures.
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Old 08-25-2001, 11:58 AM   #17
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That guy at the Imperial Garrison web page has a listing of the units he can make out from the screenshots...but he's often way off on the names, like calling that turret a Missle Knight when its just a missle turret.. the knight is underneath the word missle, but its the artists name followed by the date he finished it...he admits to just making guesses though, so check out his page.
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Old 08-25-2001, 01:21 PM   #18
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It kinda fits with the Gungans weird buildings and creatures.
No way, the other gungan sructures and units look great, but that thing is plain ugly. When i looked at the gungan screen for the first time it immediately caught my eye, a dead giveaway that it doesn't fit in.
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Old 08-25-2001, 01:27 PM   #19
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No way, the other gungan sructures and units look great, but that thing is plain ugly. When i looked at the gungan screen for the first time it immediately caught my eye, a dead giveaway that it doesn't fit in.
Same here TIE Guy...it was soooo strange


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Old 08-25-2001, 01:28 PM   #20
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This air transport for the gungans looks ok to me. And that gungan blaster cannon looks cool though!
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Old 08-25-2001, 01:32 PM   #21
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i kind of liked the concept.
if you imagine that jarjar was early on described as 'obligatory cute', you'll laugh quite hard at his ugliness.
Nobody whined about the Soviet zeppelins from RA2, which were a bit weird as well. These units' organic looks suit the Gungans to a tee, and i won't be surprised if people accept them early on in playing.


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Old 08-25-2001, 03:05 PM   #22
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Zeplins looked cool, beczuse they were suppoesed to fly. They are real, and they are blimps, not flying whales. You didn't see any subs with wings flying around RA2, just like you didn't see any planes underwater. They should leave the whales ion the water, surely they could think of something better, it doesn't even have wings really. Whats it gonna do, flap its tale to produce thrust?
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Old 08-25-2001, 03:34 PM   #23
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Maybe its body naturally makes helium so it can fly.
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Old 08-25-2001, 03:37 PM   #24
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not enough helium would fit inside that to carry itself, much less 10 troops.
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Old 08-25-2001, 03:46 PM   #25
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hmmm.... It's name is also ugly
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Old 08-25-2001, 06:04 PM   #26
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Yes it does kinda of a strange name a flop thingy or something like that.
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Old 08-25-2001, 09:38 PM   #27
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Wow! its not a whale guys! that's just its nickname that all of us have given it...it's a dunsenn flop...i assume dunsenn is some type of creature that LOOKS like a whale silhouette..but is obviously something entirely diffeent...whethere its air or helium in its body, i suppose it is just able to keep its self in the air somehow..just like the zerg guardians did. You didnt see wings on the Guardians did you? They werent on Devourers either...they were just able to float cuz they're alien creatures and our rules of physics dont apply to them. It's not a whale...its a Dunsenn Flop!
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Old 08-25-2001, 10:39 PM   #28
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although not pretty unit I think it fits the GunGuns. If you noticed the "whale" part is belly up=ie dead. Seems the take a Dussen, kill it and use it to make their air transport.





You can see the "whale" unit in this screen shot. (It doesn't look that bad if you ask me.
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Old 08-25-2001, 11:25 PM   #29
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I dont think the gungans killed it.. In the screenshot it says air comes in through the gills and shoots out like a jet...so i assume that is a natural function of the creature like breathing. Im bettin its still alive, just that the gungans have tamed it and the beast(whatever it is) has allowed them to attack personnell carrier device to its belly!
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Old 08-26-2001, 12:19 AM   #30
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The whales not "belly up" It looks just like a normal living whale.....FLOATING IN MIDAIR!!!!!!!!!!

It would be a really cool unit if it was in the water, but they had to put it in the air, surely they could have made something better than that.
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Old 08-26-2001, 12:23 AM   #31
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Eh, it's ok, it looks cool, anyway. The gungans look cool.


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Old 08-26-2001, 01:32 AM   #32
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IN concept drawings it appeared that way.


I kind of like it.
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Old 08-26-2001, 10:35 PM   #33
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Also, have you noticed that the develpoers are making units look similar? They say they want to make each race as accesable as possible so that means making buildings and units look similar. You already know this but what im getting at is that the dunsen flop is probably modeled after the wookie carrier so they couldnt use a bird. Proof of this is the very similar looking ships. Im talking about those round ones that every race has. Just look at the screenshots. So far ive seen a Gungan, impirial, TF versions. Tell me if ive missed any.


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Old 08-26-2001, 10:58 PM   #34
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Jeez...ok one more time it seems...look at hte concept art. First off it has a beak, or a bill...whales dont have a bills or beaks. Second the they said the tail had feathers...how many whales you seen with feathers,..the times when you werent on weed i mean. So its not a whale, it some kind of species that unique to Naboo. I didnt say it was belly up i siad they prolly tamed the creature which in turn prolly didnt put up a fight when they attached a troop carrier to its belly somehow.
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Old 08-26-2001, 11:05 PM   #35
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I was the one to say it looked like it was belly up.
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Old 08-26-2001, 11:07 PM   #36
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Its a whale man!!!! Look at that thing and tell me it's not a whale. They can say it has feathers and all, but it's still a whale. Did you think it was a whale, or at least looked like a whale before the concept. The only reason they put that screenshot in is coz they had to find some way to justify that that whale wasn't really stupid looking. They had to explain it too us so they wouldn't look stupid. Still, there's no way around it, that is a giant whale that is floating in midair. Call it the "wind fish" if you want, but it's a whale.

And about all the units looking alike, Booya, where are you getting that from?!? None of the units look alike, did you even look at the screens, they are totally differnt. The rebels have a bulk transport, and the gungans have a whale that looks nothing like a rebel transport. Some of the resource centers may look similar, but what do you expect?
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Old 08-26-2001, 11:13 PM   #37
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wa? You honestly think that thing is an earth whale? hmm...i got a new game...its called guess the drug that tie guy is on!!!
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Old 08-26-2001, 11:16 PM   #38
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Plus they said that the building silhouttes would be somewhat similar but they never said anything about the units looking the same... How can you find a similarity between a droid, storm trooper and a gungan warrior???????
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Old 08-26-2001, 11:20 PM   #39
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The only similarity I can determine is that, those three units basically preform the same task, but then agian that would be a given.

Could you explain it a little better, if you still disagree.
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Old 08-26-2001, 11:28 PM   #40
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No i dont disagree..i was talking in terms of graphics...all three of those are the basic infantry unit and they all look completely different. I know what that guy was talking about though..in AOK, they used the same silhouttes for buildings but gave them different skins kinds...look at the archery range for asian, european, and middle eastern civs...they all are designed the same but have graphic/skin differences...Lucasarts supposedly stuck with that, but units are completely unique.

Also i wonder how earth whales made it to Naboo...did a Naboo settler bring some whales with them from earth? But then how did hte whales learn to adapt with the lack of cuttlefish..their main food supply? Does Naboo's oceans have cuttlefish too or did they Naboo get smart and bring cuttlefish species with them to Naboo as well? If its an earth whale, why did Gungans use them as units instead of the Naboo? Did the Naboo see flying whales as useless? How did the Gungans get earth whales to fly? Did they cross breed them with blowfish? Implant helium glands? Are the feathers an act of evolution or did the Gungans surgiacally graft the feathers onto their bodies???
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